Is it actually possible to defeat the Romans in this game? I opted to go to war with them after the Cattans turned against my tribe, and Heremod killed the envoys.. And I got a neat death thing saying I died in battle with the Romans.
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Stupid, semi-spoilery questions
- Thread starter Saint_Proverbius
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Wolf Mittag
Wolf Mittag Software Development
Saint_Proverbius said:
Sure. Though you can't really defeat the Romans militarily, you can defend your tribe's independence by making a continuation of the war too costly for the Romans.
In order to keep up your resistance for a sufficiently long period of time, you'll need to win back the Cattans (you've only gone through about 2/3 of this storyline's plot yet).
(If in doubt or hurry, go to Help Menu (F1), and select "Walkthrough".)
Damn, I wanted to beat down the Romans and become Empiror.
Wolf Mittag
Wolf Mittag Software Development
Admittedly, that's a disadvantage of playing a historical RPG: Reality sets limits to what you can archieve - and the Barbaric Teutons of that period were as incapable of conquering the Roman Empire as, say, one of today's Afghan warlords, or even an alliance of all of Afghanistan's warlords would be of conquering today's United States (unless, of course, you had a total breakdown of government, total loss of citizens' loyality, and a mutinous, cowardly and absolutely incompetent army).
Gavin Spooner
Novice
A God
I was just wondering if they were any cheats?
I was just wondering if they were any cheats?
Wolf Mittag
Wolf Mittag Software Development
Gavin Spooner said:
Yes, there are (stop reading if you don't want to spoil the game for yourself):
Within the game, type ",cheat" (that's a comma before the "c") - you should then be told "cheat mode on". Functions then available include ",heal", ",map" and ",quest" (always type a comma at the beginning). There are also Teleport-functions, a Resurrection-function, and an all-powerful Make-the-current-action-succeed-regardless-of-circumstances-function, but I guess I better not give these away unless explicitly asked for them...
Anonymous
Guest
Thats cool, i was just wondering.
PS got the game the other day and played it though its really cool.
i haven't started the peaceful way yet.
PS got the game the other day and played it though its really cool.
i haven't started the peaceful way yet.
Anonymous
Guest
Hi could you tell me the teleport cheats plz
Jed
Cipher
You have to equip the ring to do that.
Wolf Mittag
Wolf Mittag Software Development
Busses said:
(warning: major spoiler) http://www.teudogar.com/cheat_telep.txt
(XJEDX probably meant a different game. Since there's no magical teleportation in Teudogar, there are no teleporter rings etc. You can only do this via the cheat commands described above.)
Jed
Cipher
No, I was just being a smartass.
Gavin Spooner
Novice
Resurection
How do you use the Resurection cheat
How do you use the Resurection cheat
Gavin Spooner
Novice
Kingship
I read some where that you can become king of a tribe, how do you do this?
Ps is it just me or is the Rome's ally campaign real short?
I read some where that you can become king of a tribe, how do you do this?
Ps is it just me or is the Rome's ally campaign real short?
Wolf Mittag
Wolf Mittag Software Development
Hello Gavin,
Resurrection cheat:
When you've been killed, and your obituary has been displayed, you'll automatically be forwarded to Main Menu (New Game, Load Game etc).
Once you're in this Main Menu screen, keep the "W" key pressed, and at the same time briefly press the "R" key. You should then be returned to the place of your death, with your health fully restored.
Becoming king:
Well, when you've forged the large tribal alliance against Rome, Heremod, who wants to become sole leader of this alliance, will propose to overthrow Ortwin at the first good opportunity during the next couple of months. Since the Cheruscans would then have to elect some fellow tribesman as new king, Heremod offers to give his (armed) support to your candidacy for this post. (He won't make this offer if you've slain his top henchman Wigbald.) Heremod's support would result in your becoming King of the Cheruscans.
However, all of this action would necessarily be stretched out over many months, possibly one or two years - so you don't get to actually play it out, you are just given the perspective and (in your obituary) told the outcome.
From the author's point of view, part of the problem lies with the "historical, realistic" RPG concept: Reaching fuzzy political goals, like removing and finally replacing a political rival, is a long process, and your way to archieve them would have to consist of thousands of tiny moves, a few of them every single day, over a long period of time (witness Gordon Brown's endless quest to replace Tony Blair).
In contrast, if this were a regular Fantasy RPG, I could simply have stated that in order to become King of the Cheruscans, you'd need the Crown of X, and also to fullfill the Quest of Z and so on - and after a couple of weeks and a few spectacular, clearly-defined actions, you would have reached your goal (and in doing so would have had a chance to explore a large additional game world, slay countless monsters, and so on).
Rome's ally campaign too short:
It is. This is mainly because an alliance with Rome brings so many advantages to almost everybody on every side: The Romans will certainly be glad if you join them voluntarily and they won't have to spend all the money and effort necessary to subdue you; so they'll welcome you with open arms. And for your own tribe, such an alliance would bring peace, prosperity and power. The only losers would be some chieftains who'd miss an opportunity to win war booty and glory. So basically, there's not much resistance to be overcome - some of these Germanic warlords need to go, but all other conditions are already in place.
Of course that's not satisfactory from a player's point of view. In retrospect, I do understand that I ought to have added at least several more warlords or would-be chieftains who oppose the alliance and who you'd need to defeat or convince. And I've also shied away from implementing your future life as Rome's ally into actual gameplay (due to the huge amount of research it'd have required to make this more or less historically correct). If I were to start this project all over, I'd do this nonetheless, in order to give this storyline more substance and volume.
Part of the conclusion I've reached is to focus on writing Fantasy RPGs instead of historical or realistic ones in the immediate future: Writing and implementing a historically authentic plot takes at least 20 times the effort and time that writing a Fantasy plot would take, and the same goes for game world creation. Besides, realistic games are far too interdependent: Whatever you do at the Marcomanians' will have to have repercussions at the Cheruscans (that means a great lot of additional dialogue passages to be written); in contrast, in a Fantasy game, the Dwarves of X needn't care at all about what happens at the Elves of Y. So with fantasy, I can very easily offer players a huge game world and an (almost) endless plot, and I can also twist the plot any way I want to, thus offering countless subplots, spectacular events, and real, concrete action and outcomes instead of just fuzzy future perspectives. With a historical game like Teudogar, this is unfortunately far more difficult.
Resurrection cheat:
When you've been killed, and your obituary has been displayed, you'll automatically be forwarded to Main Menu (New Game, Load Game etc).
Once you're in this Main Menu screen, keep the "W" key pressed, and at the same time briefly press the "R" key. You should then be returned to the place of your death, with your health fully restored.
Becoming king:
Well, when you've forged the large tribal alliance against Rome, Heremod, who wants to become sole leader of this alliance, will propose to overthrow Ortwin at the first good opportunity during the next couple of months. Since the Cheruscans would then have to elect some fellow tribesman as new king, Heremod offers to give his (armed) support to your candidacy for this post. (He won't make this offer if you've slain his top henchman Wigbald.) Heremod's support would result in your becoming King of the Cheruscans.
However, all of this action would necessarily be stretched out over many months, possibly one or two years - so you don't get to actually play it out, you are just given the perspective and (in your obituary) told the outcome.
From the author's point of view, part of the problem lies with the "historical, realistic" RPG concept: Reaching fuzzy political goals, like removing and finally replacing a political rival, is a long process, and your way to archieve them would have to consist of thousands of tiny moves, a few of them every single day, over a long period of time (witness Gordon Brown's endless quest to replace Tony Blair).
In contrast, if this were a regular Fantasy RPG, I could simply have stated that in order to become King of the Cheruscans, you'd need the Crown of X, and also to fullfill the Quest of Z and so on - and after a couple of weeks and a few spectacular, clearly-defined actions, you would have reached your goal (and in doing so would have had a chance to explore a large additional game world, slay countless monsters, and so on).
Rome's ally campaign too short:
It is. This is mainly because an alliance with Rome brings so many advantages to almost everybody on every side: The Romans will certainly be glad if you join them voluntarily and they won't have to spend all the money and effort necessary to subdue you; so they'll welcome you with open arms. And for your own tribe, such an alliance would bring peace, prosperity and power. The only losers would be some chieftains who'd miss an opportunity to win war booty and glory. So basically, there's not much resistance to be overcome - some of these Germanic warlords need to go, but all other conditions are already in place.
Of course that's not satisfactory from a player's point of view. In retrospect, I do understand that I ought to have added at least several more warlords or would-be chieftains who oppose the alliance and who you'd need to defeat or convince. And I've also shied away from implementing your future life as Rome's ally into actual gameplay (due to the huge amount of research it'd have required to make this more or less historically correct). If I were to start this project all over, I'd do this nonetheless, in order to give this storyline more substance and volume.
Part of the conclusion I've reached is to focus on writing Fantasy RPGs instead of historical or realistic ones in the immediate future: Writing and implementing a historically authentic plot takes at least 20 times the effort and time that writing a Fantasy plot would take, and the same goes for game world creation. Besides, realistic games are far too interdependent: Whatever you do at the Marcomanians' will have to have repercussions at the Cheruscans (that means a great lot of additional dialogue passages to be written); in contrast, in a Fantasy game, the Dwarves of X needn't care at all about what happens at the Elves of Y. So with fantasy, I can very easily offer players a huge game world and an (almost) endless plot, and I can also twist the plot any way I want to, thus offering countless subplots, spectacular events, and real, concrete action and outcomes instead of just fuzzy future perspectives. With a historical game like Teudogar, this is unfortunately far more difficult.
Anonymous
Guest
Jed I think just like you.
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