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The Codex’s Best Computer RPGs (pre-Diablo)

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  1. Deuce Traveler Prestigious Gentleman 2012 Newfag Patron

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    New Voting: The Codex’s Best Computer RPGs (pre-Diablo)

    I’ve been wanting to have the hive mind’s opinion on what the best CRPGs were before the modern game era. So here we are, a thread giving each of you the opportunity to vote for the best CRPGs before the release of the original Diablo in December of 1996.

    Rules:

    Each Codex member gets to make one post allocating 10 points to a maximum of 5 games. You cannot allocate more than 5 of your points to any single game.

    At the end of the New Year I will begin tallying up the points. The game with the most points when the votes are counted will be the in first place, second most points will be in second place, and so on.

    Below is the list of games picked by the Ring of Prestigious Gentlemen:

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    1980
    Akalabeth: World of Doom (Richard Garriott)
    Eamon (Donald Brown)
    Rogue (Epyx)

    1981
    Temple of Apshai (Epyx)
    Ultima 1 (Origin)
    Wizardry 1: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord (Sir-Tech)

    1982
    Dungeons of Daggaroth (DynaMicro)
    Sword of Fargoal (Epyx)
    Ultima 2: The Revenge of the Enchantress (Origin)
    Wizardry 2: Knight of Diamonds (Sir-Tech)

    1983
    Gateway to Apshai (Epyx)
    Ultima 3: Exodus (Origin)
    Wizardry 3: The Legacy of Llygamyn (Sir-Tech)

    1984
    Questron (SSI)

    1985
    AutoDuel (Origin)
    The Bard's Tale 1: Tales of the Unknown (Interplay)
    Phantasie (SSI)
    Sword and Sorcery (Personal Software Services)
    Wizard's Crown (SSI)
    Ultima 4: Quest of the Avatar (Origin)

    1986
    The Bard's Tale 2: The Destiny Knight (Interplay)
    Might and Magic 1: Secret of the Inner Sanctum (New World Computing)
    Phantasie 2 (SSI)
    Rings of Zilfin (SSI)
    Roadwar (SSI)
    Shard of Spring (SSI)
    Starflight (Binary Systems)
    Wizardry 4: The Return of Wedna (Sir-Tech)

    1987
    2400 AD (Origin)
    Alternate Reality: The Dungeon (Datasoft)
    Deathlord (EA)
    Dungeon Master (Psygnosis Limited)
    Eternal Dagger (SSI)
    Faery Tale Adventure: Book 1 (MicroIllusions)
    Legacy of the Ancients (EA)
    Phantasie 3: The Wrath of Nikademus (SSI)

    1988
    The Bard's Tale 3: Thief of Fate (Interplay)
    BattleTech: The Crescent Hawk's Inception (Westwood)
    Demon's Winter (SSI)
    Heroes of the Lance (SSI)
    Might and Magic 2: Gates to Another World (New World Computing)
    Moraff's Revenge (Moraffware)
    Pool of Radiance (SSI)
    Prophecy 1: The Fall of Trinadon (Activision)
    Questron 2 (SSI)
    Sentinel Worlds 1: Future Magic (EA)
    Star Command (SSI)
    Ultima 5: Warriors of Destiny (Origin)
    Wasteland (Interplay)
    Wizardry 5: Heart of the Maelstrom (Sir-Tech)
    Wizard's Lair 1: The Trial (Microstar)

    1989
    2088: The Cryllan Mission (Victory Software)
    Bloodwych (Image Works)
    Curse of the Azure Bonds (SSI)
    The Dark Heart of Uukrul (Digital Studios)
    Dragon Wars (Interplay)
    Drakkhen (Infogames Europe)
    Dungeon Master: Chaos Strikes Back (FTL Games)
    Hero's Quest (Quest for Glory 1): So You Want to Be a Hero (Sierra)
    Hillsfar (SSI)
    Keef the Thief (Naughty Dog)
    Knights of Legend (Origin)
    The Magic Candle (Mindcraft Software)
    Mines of Titan (Westwood)
    Rance 1: The Quest for Hikari (AliceSoft)
    Space Rogue (Origin)
    Starflight 2: Trade Routes of the Cloud Nebula (Binary Systems)
    Sword of Aragon (SSI)
    Tangled Tales (Origin)
    Windwalker (Origin)

    1990
    Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday (SSI)
    Captive (Mindscape)
    Champions of Krynn (SSI)
    Crystals of Arborea (Silmarils)
    DarkSpyre (Event Horizon Software)
    Dragonflight (Thalion Software)
    Elvira: Mistress of the Dark (Horror Soft)
    Escape from Hell (EA)
    Hard Nova (Spaceport Malibu)
    Fountain of Dreams (EA)
    Keys to Maramon (Mindcraft Software)
    Legend of Faerghail (Electronic Design Hannover)
    The Lord of the Rings Volume 1 (Interplay)
    MegaTraveller 1: The Zhodani Conspiracy (Paragon Software)
    Quest for Glory 2: Trial by Fire (Sierra)
    Secret of the Silver Blades (SSI)
    Space 1889 (Paragon Software)
    Spirit of Excalibur (Synergistic Software)
    Tunnels and Trolls: Crusaders of Khazan (New World Computing)
    Ultima 6: The False Prophet (Origin)
    Wizardry 6: Bane of the Cosmic Forge (Sir-Tech)
    Worlds of Ultima: The Savage Empire (Origin)

    1991
    Conan: The Cimmerian (Synergistic Software)
    Death Knights of Krynn (SSI)
    Disciples of Steel (MegaSoft Entertainment)
    Die Drachen von Laas (ATTIC Entertainment Software)
    Dusk of the Gods (Event Horizon)
    Elvira 2: The Jaws of Cerberus (Horror Soft)
    Eye of the Beholder (Westwood)
    Eye of the Beholder 2: The Legend of Darkmoon (Westwood)
    Fate: Gates of Dawn (reLINE Software)
    Gateway to the Savage Frontier (Beyond Software)
    Knights of Xentar (Elf)
    The Magic Candle 2: The Four and Forty (Mindcraft)
    MegaTraveller 2: Quest for the Ancients (Paragon)
    Might and Magic 3: Isles of Terra (New World Computing)
    Moonstone: A Hard Day's Knight (Mindscape)
    Neverwinter Nights (Stormfront Studios)
    Pools of Darkness (SSI)
    Spirit of Adventure (Attic Entertainment Software)
    Twilight 2000 (Paragon)
    Vengeance of Excalibur (Synergistic Software)
    Worlds of Ultima: Martian Dreams (Origin)

    1992
    Abandoned Places: A Time for Heroes (ArtGame)
    Amberstar (Thalion Software)
    Black Crypt (Raven Software)
    Buck Rogers: Matrix Cubed (SSI)
    Challenge of the Five Realms (MicroProse)
    The Dark Queen of Krynn (SSI)
    Darklands (Microprose)
    Defender of Boston (Tim Wisseman)
    Ishar: Legend of the Fortress (Silmarils)
    The Legacy: Realm of Terror (Magnetic Scrolls)
    Legend (Mindscape)
    Legends of Valour (Synthetic Dimensions)
    Lords of the Rings Volume 2: The Two Towers (Interplay)
    Lords of Time (Hollyware)
    The Magic Candle 3 (Mindcraft Software)
    Might and Magic: Clouds of Xeen (New World Computing)
    Prophecy of the Shadow (SSI)
    Planet's Edge (New World Computing)
    Quest for Glory 3: Wages of War (Sierra)
    Ragnarok (Norsehelm Productions)
    Realms of Arkania: Blade of Destiny (Attic Entertainment Software)
    SpellCraft: Aspects of Valor (Tsunami Productions)
    Spelljammer: Pirates of Realmspace (SSI)
    Star Control 2: The Ur-Quan Masters (Toys for Bob)
    The Summoning (Event Horizon)
    Treasures of the Savage Frontier (Beyond Software)
    Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss (Blue Sky Productions)
    Ultima 7: The Black Gate (Origin)
    Ultizurk 1: The Grandmaster's Quest (Dr Dungeon)
    Wizardry 7: Crusaders of the Dark Savant (Sir-Tech)

    1993
    Ambermoon (Thalion Software)
    Betrayal at Krondor (Dynamix Inc)
    BloodNet (MicroProse)
    Bloodstone: An Epic Dwarven Tale (Mindcraft Software)
    Captive 2 (Byte Engineers)
    Castle of the Winds (Epic MegaGames)
    Daemon's Gate (Imagitec Design)
    Dark Sun: Shattered Lands (SSI)
    Dungeon Hack (DreamForge)
    Dungeon Master 2: The Legend of Skullkeep (FTL)
    Excelsior Phase One: Lysandia (11th Dimension)
    Eye of the Beholder 3: Assault on Myth Drannor (SSI)
    Fates of Twinion (Ybarra Productions)
    Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures (SSI)
    Hired Guns (DMA)
    Ishar 2: Messengers of Doom (Simarils)
    Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos (Westwood)
    Might and Magic V: Darkside of Xeen (New World Computing)
    Perihelion (Morbid Visions)
    Princess Maker 2 (Gainax)
    Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness (Sierra)
    Psionics (Nachos Software)
    Shadow of Yserbius (Ybarra Productions)
    Ultima Underworld 2: Labyrinth of Worlds (Origin)
    Ultima Underworld 7 Part 2: Serpent Isle (Origin)
    Warriors of Legend (Synergistic Software)
    Warwizard (MicroGenesis)
    Whale's Voyage (Flair Software)

    1994
    Aethra Chronicles Volume 1: Celystra's Bane (Michael Lawrence)
    Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse (Cyberlore)
    Alien Logic: The Skyrealms of Journe Adventure (Ceridus)
    Dark Sun: Wake of the Ravager (SSI)
    The Elder Scrolls: Arena (Bethesda)
    Heimdall 2: Into the Hall of Worlds (8th Day)
    Ishar 3: The Seven Gates of Infinity (Silmarils)
    Heroquest 2: Legacy of Sorasil (Gremlin Interactive)
    Hexx: Heresy of the Wizard (TAG)
    Menzoberranzan (Dreamforge)
    Might and Magic: World of Xeen (New World Computing)
    Nahlakh (Tom Proudfoot Games)
    Ravenloft: Strahd's Possession (Dreamforge)
    Realms of Arkania: Star Trail (Attic Entertainment)
    Superhero League of Hoboken (Legend Entertainment)
    Ultima 8: Pagan (Origin)
    Yendorian Tales Book 1 (SW Games)

    1995
    Albion (Blue Byte Software)
    Anvil of Dawn (Dreamforge)
    Druid: Daemon's of the Mind (Synthetic Dimensions)
    Entomorph (Cyberlore)
    Exile: Escape from the Pit (Spiderweb Software)
    Exile 2: Crystal Souls (Spiderweb Software)
    Mordor: The Depths of Dejenol (MakeItSo Software)
    Ravenloft: Stone Prophet (Dreamforge)
    Rol Crusaders (NoriaWorks Entertainment)
    Ruins of Cawdor (Ybarra Productions)
    Stonekeep (Interplay)
    Swords of Xeen (New World Computing)
    Trials by Magic (Silver Lightning)
    World of Aden: Thunderscape (SSI)

    1996
    Birthright: The Gorgon's Alliance (Synergistic Software)
    Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall (Bethesda)
    Evil's Doom (Olympia)
    Exile 3: The Ruined World (Spiderweb Software)
    Kargon (ACP)
    Legion (Gobi Software)
    Madman (Dr Dungeon)
    Nemesis: The Wizardry Adventure (Sir-Tech)
    Realms of Arkania 3: Shadows Over Riva (Attic Entertainment)
    Ring Cycle (Maelstrom Games)
    Yendorian Tales Book 1 Chapter 2 (Spectrum Pacific)


    I’d like to thank the Ring of Prestigious Gentlemen, who helped me put together the above list and gave me advice on how to proceed. The members were Decado, mondblut, ERYFKRAD, Fowyr, Zed Duke of Banville, JarlFrank, Dorateen, octavius, and zwanzig_zwoelf.

    To answer some of the questions you may have, I wrote some Q & A.

    Q: What made you want to put this together?

    A: Felipepe has done some awesome work putting together the RPGCodex best of lists in the past. But the lists will always cater to the demographic of our users and will increasingly ignore older games as the years roll on. Those of us that grew up with or love to play games from the beginning years of the CRPG genre are dwindling in numbers and our opinions should be recorded while memories and experiences are still strong.

    Q: Why did you decide upon Diablo as the cutoff?

    A: I didn’t. Initially I thought it should be pre-Baldur’s Gate, which would have been CRPGs up to 1998. Then I thought pre-Fallout, which would have been 1997 as the cutoff. The Ring of Prestigious Gentlemen pointed out hardware changes that were occurring around the time Diablo was published. Also, for better or for worse, Diablo was an evolution that raised the popularity of the action RPG genre and hurt the market for turn-based RPGs.

    Q: This game (Al-Qadim, Alien Logic, Hired Guns) is on your suggested RPG list, but it’s an action game with RPG elements. And you left off this other game (X-Com, Lords of Midnight, Stronghold) that has stronger RPG elements. This is bullshit!

    A: I tried to stick with games that advertised themselves as RPGs and not strategy games. The list is as good as I and the Ring of Prestigious Gentlemen could make it without falling into a paralyzing “What is and RPG” argument.

    Q: Bro, I’m in Europe and you missed the best CRPG of the pre-Diablo era (Istanbul Efsaneleri, Die Dunkle Dimension, Tera: La Cité des Crânes).

    A: If the game was European, but had enough of an English speaking market we tried to include it in our list. Unfortunately, some games that look great probably do not have enough visibility on the predominantly English speaking RPG Codex to score enough points to make it on the finalized Best Of list that I’m trying to compile, even if it was a missed gem and the 'best eva'.

    Q: Dude, up yours. I’m going to put in my vote for this awesome, obscure game anyway.

    A: Okay.

    Mentions: Calling upon the following fans of older CRPGs to vote on this thread, but readers should feel free to invite others:


    Edit: Bolded a section for people who don't read good.
     
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  2. Butter Arcane

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    5 points each:

    The Dark Heart of Uukrul
    Curse of the Azure Bonds
     
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  3. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    3 points:

    Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
    Ultima Underworld

    2 points:

    Pool of Radiance

    1 point:

    Starflight 2
    The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
     
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  4. Morpheus Kitami Arbiter

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    Edited because I forgot about the game limit
    4 points:
    Dungeon Master

    3 points:
    Exile III

    1 point:
    Elvira I
    Mordor: The Depths of Dejenol
    Princess Maker 2

    Honorable Mentions:
    The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
    Ironseed
    Moraff's Dungeons of the Unforgiven
     
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  5. Gandalf Learned

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    5 points for Gryffindor! I won't vote, because I'm missing a couple of playthroughts here and there. Curious to see the choices of the others, tho.
     
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  6. V_K Arcane

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    That's way too few points. :argh:

    3 points:
    Quest for Glory 4
    Realms of Arkania: Star Trail

    1 point:
    Wizardry 7
    The Summoning
    Quest for Glory 1
    Amberstar

    Honorable mentions (I really wanted to vote for them, but they have no chances, so I'd be wasting points):
    Dragon Wars
    Anvil of Dawn
    Legacy: Realm of Terror

    EDIT: Since I apparently can't read, I've named 6. If the "5 games max" rule is not abolished (which I suggest it should, 10 points is limiting enough), move Amberstar to honorable mentions and give its point ot QfG1.
     
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  7. Dorateen Arcane

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    4 Points: Pool of Radiance

    3 Points: Wizardry 7: Crusaders of the Dark Savant

    2 Points: Might & Magic II: Gates to Another World

    1 Point: Might & Magic: World of Xeen
     
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  8. PapaPetro Omniscient Patron

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    5 to the roguelike progenitors
    DND
    Rogue
    Umoria
    Hack
    Angband
     
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  9. undecaf Arcane Patron

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    Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    3 points:
    Wasteland
    Wizardry 7

    2 Points:
    B.A.T. 2: The Koshan Conspiracy
    (this might be considered a borderline RPG, so if it doesn’t qualify, I’ll change it)

    1 point:
    TES 2: Daggerfall
    Might & Magic: World of Xeen
     
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  10. k0syak Arbiter

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    Betrayal at Krondor
    Darklands
    Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
    Dark Sun: Wake of the Ravager
    Dark Heart of Uukrul
    Might and Magic: Clouds of Xeen
    Pool of Radiance
    Ultima Underworld I&2 (1 point each)
    Wizardry 7
     
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  11. Binky Cipher

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    5 pts:
    Darklands
    4 pts:
    Quest for Glory II
    1 pt:
    Conan
     
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  12. Broseph Codex Fairy Queen Patron

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    5 points:
    Might and Magic 3

    2 points:
    Daggerfall

    1 point:
    Betrayal at Krondor
    Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
    Wizardry 7
     
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  13. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    EDITED, forgot about only 5 games.
    EDITed again, due to failing basic maths.

    3 points:
    Dungeon Master: Chaos Strikes Back
    Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss

    2 points:
    Might and Magic 2: Gates to Another World

    1 point:
    Disciples of Steel
    Nahlakh
     
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  14. zwanzig_zwoelf Graverobber Foundation Developer

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    2 points:

    Wizardry 4: The Return of Wedna
    Wizardry 1: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
    Hired Guns
    Mordor: The Depths of Dejenol
    The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall

    Edit: fucked it up, culled the list a bit.
     
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  15. Maggot Arcane Patron

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    5 points to Ultima Underworld and 5 points to Ultima Underworld 2.
     
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  16. ManaJunkie Savant

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    3 points to Wizardry 7
    3 points to Ultima Underworld
    2 points to DSA Sternenschweif (ROA 2)
    2 points to Ultima 4

    This are hard choices.
     
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  17. Fowyr Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Damn, only five, what to choose... :negative:
    But I see a lot of people vote for more than five games already.

    So, two points to each if only 5 games are allowed.
    Wizardry 7: Crusaders of the Dark Savant (Sir-Tech)
    The Dark Heart of Uukrul (Digital Studios)
    Might and Magic 2: Gates to Another World (New World Computing)
    Pool of Radiance (SSI)
    Dark Sun: Shattered Lands (SSI)
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    Or one point each for 5 previous games and one point each for these:
    Eye of the Beholder
    The Legacy: Realm of Terror (Magnetic Scrolls)
    The Summoning
    Aethra Chronicles Volume 1: Celystra's Bane (Michael Lawrence)
    Untima Underworld
     
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  18. V_K Arcane

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    Well shit, apparently I can't read.
    In my defence, that's damn long post most of which should have been under spoiler. Personally, I'd say fuck the 5-games rule, 10 points are limiting enough already.
     
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  19. sigard Learned

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    5 points each:
    Realms of Arkania: Star Trail
    Wasteland
     
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  20. Stainless Veteran Arcane

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    Five is certainly too low of a number. I haven't even played most of the 80s games, and still I have too much to chose from.
    So, if only five games are applicable, then two points each goes to:
    Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall (Bethesda)
    Darklands (Microprose)
    Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness (Sierra)
    Dark Sun: Wake of the Ravager (SSI)
    Dungeon Hack (DreamForge)

    If ten is applicable, then one point each to all above and one to additional five below.
    BloodNet (MicroProse)
    Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse (Cyberlore)
    Dark Sun: Shattered Lands (SSI)
    Hero's Quest (Quest for Glory 1): So You Want to Be a Hero (Sierra)
    Princess Maker 2 (Gainax)
     
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  21. mondblut Arcane

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    4 - Wizardry 7
    2 - Daggerfall
    2 - Darklands
    1 - Pools of Darkness
    1 - Aethra Chronicles
     
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  22. k0syak Arbiter

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    [​IMG]


    Here's a revised list (2 points each):

    Betrayal at Krondor
    Darklands
    Dark Sun: Wake of the Ravager
    Ultima Underworld: Stygian Abyss
    Wizardry VII: Crusaders of the Dark Savant
     
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  23. YldrE Educated

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    5 points each:

    The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
    Wizardry VII: Crusaders of the Dark Savant
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 5
    • Prestigious Prestigious x 1
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  24. Diablo1_reborn Busin 0 Wizardry Alternative Neo fanatic Patron

    Diablo1_reborn
    Joined:
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    Location:
    Germany
    3 Stonekeep
    3 Lands of Lore
    2 Wizardry 7
    1 Dungeon Master
    1 Dungeon Master 2
     
    • Brofist x 8
    • Funny x 1
    • decline x 1
    • Prestigious x 1
    • WTF am I reading x 1
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  25. Meredoth Arcane

    Meredoth
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    5 POINTS :
    • Dark Sun : Wake of The Ravager. IMO is a very underrated game. I have a thread explaining why it is so underrated >> Here is my thread. Dark Sun : Wake of the Ravager is underrated. And I suggest to people reading this thread to check the game. Is my favorite game from SSI. The dialogs, quest design, encounter design, area design, everything in this game is so great.
    So I'm giving as much points as possible to this game. All other games, I like equally, so the dice will decide which one deserves 2 points in order to allocate 10(as giving 1 pt for 4 games + 5 for one will only allocate 9 pts)

    TWO POINTS :

    • Eye of the Beholder (Westwood)

    Now all resting are ONE POINT :
    • Eye of the Beholder 2: The Legend of Darkmoon
    • Ultima 7
    • Might and Magic IV: Clouds of Xeen
    TL;DR : Dark Sun Wake of the Ravager = 5 points. Eye of the Beholder = 2 points(roll). Eye of the Beholder 1, Ultima 7 and M&M IV = 1 pt each.
     
    Meredoth rolled 4-sided di(c)e: Which deserves 2 points Total: 1
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2021
    • Brofist x 9
    • Prestigious x 2
    • Acknowledge this user's Agenda x 1
    • Yes x 1
    • Informative x 1
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