The Dragon Quest Thread

[Derringer]

Nah, the 3DS version came first. And for the record, the 3DS port runs very well.

I can't tell if you're shitposting or not if you can't do basic research on a shitty port.

 

[deuxhero]

Just beat the Monsters II remake. It's a 4/5 game held back from perfection by super opaque mechanics (I'm still trying to figure out how skills combine), load-times, and UI issues that would have been easy to fix. In-fact, I think a consoles+PC port (since the Android/iOS ports mean it's not locked into any deal) could easily fix these issues. Would need better in-line explanations (mouse, second analog and r2/l2 mean there's plenty of room), and some icons so you can easily tell what skills and skillsets are connected.

I over estimated the final boss. After getting my ass kicked once (only time I had to reset outside of optional fights you can do way too early) because I didn't pack enough anti-confuse items, I over prepared by using the once every 6 hours key to an area full of liquid metal slimes a few times. Turns out he has absolutely no counter to a (liquid) metal slime with the Guard skill that makes all attacks hit them.

Edit: Was exploring one of the post-game dungeons (pyramid) and accidentally wandered into its boss. Despite being weakened and low on resources, the same liquid metal slime led to this boss being a pushover too.

 

[Casual Hero]

Nah, the 3DS version came first. And for the record, the 3DS port runs very well.

I can't tell if you're shitposting or not if you can't do basic research on a shitty port.

No, I'm being serious. I'm not an expert; I can just say that I played the 3DS version on my 3DS and thought it was fine. I can't tell you specific differences, but I know I had a good time playing the game.
And no, I haven't done basic research, so maybe you know more about it than I do.

I feel like I need to reiterate; I'm not a technical expert, so I can't tell you what runs well and what doesn't. Still, I wouldn't tell anyone to avoid the 3DS version. Then again, I'm not as cynical as your average Joe here. I meant no harm by my post, and I'm speaking purely from my limited experience. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way.

 

[Mauman]

I've heard of people having problems with the mobile port of 4, but I've never had a problem with it personally.

 

[Jenkem]

Any news about DQ events this year? Need more info on the 3 remake and 12...

 

[Abu Antar]

Any news about DQ events this year? Need more info on the 3 remake and 12...

No official info as of yet.

My unfounded hope is that we'll see something during their summer event. Not that they have announced such an event, but they did have one the previous two or three years.

 

[Carpincho Pampeano]

I think DQ XI was a love letter for the fans because they knew they would have to change the formula, they will probably copy the combat of FF VII Remake and westernize the shit out of the franchise.

Franchise will become for "Mature gamers ™"

 

[Mauman]

I think DQ XI was a love letter for the fans because they knew they would have to change the formula, they will probably copy the combat of FF VII Remake and westernize the shit out of the franchise.

Franchise will become for "Mature gamers ™"

Oh, I would LOVE to see that....

I'd watch the riots while eating popcorn.

Of course, if SE does do that they can go fuck themselves with a rusty railroad spike far as I'm concerned.

 

[flyingjohn]

I think DQ XI was a love letter for the fans because they knew they would have to change the formula, they will probably copy the combat of FF VII Remake and westernize the shit out of the franchise.

Franchise will become for "Mature gamers ™"

No.
The Enix parts of square is dominant and the dragon quest devs can do whatever they want.These are the same devs that released a mmo instead of a easy slam dunk normal entry.If anything changes it is because the devs wanted to change it.
Dq 11 seems like a love letter because it is a home console game release after several years of portable/side stuff.What you are seeing is typical Dq game play,there is no "ode to the fans" whatsoever.

 

[Viata]

The Enix parts of square is dominant

IIRC, when Enix bought Square, most of the people taking important position were all Square people, though.

 

[Casual Hero]

DQ is still owned by Armor Project, which is run by Yuji Horii. He is making all of the deliberate decisions, and I trust that he will make a fun game. Simple as that, as far as I'm concerned.
Sure, another turn-based game would be cool, but you need to let Horii do what he wants. He's been working on these games for almost 40 years now. Please don't bully the man for wanting to try something new.

 

[Casual Hero]

And if you're upset about the mentions of "dark" themes for the new game, then you may not be very informed about Horii's past projects and certain elements he's wanted to include in the games since the second entry.
The original ending to DQ 2 had a "dark" ending where the main character got killed off, but he removed it because he was worried it would be too shocking. Still, he has stated in multiple interviews that he has always wanted to revisit darker themes in his games.

This isn't about DQ succumbing to "western grimdark"; this is something that Horii wants to explore on his own. I support him fully!

 

[Carpincho Pampeano]

Okay, just finished Dragon Quest 1, the switch port. They really fucked up this port, which is from the mobile version. They mixed different kind of sprites so it looks awfull when you play on a tv but tolerable while playing mobile.

Obviusly the first Dragon Quest is as classic as it gets in it's gameplay loop which is reach town---->grind enemies around the town so you can buy the equipment from said new town--->move to next town. All this while collecting the items to be able to basically build a tiny bridge to the island of the demon lord, you also rescue a princess in the way there.

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Finished the game both in jap and english and only noticed few inconsistencies with the translation and was also surprised they let pafupafu in.

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What a cheap whore.

Game took me about 10 hours to fiish, half of them was probably grinding which didn't really bothered me because i was prepared for it, i always say that JRPGs don't requiere grinding and can be finished by understanding the combat and grinding is a clutch by this is one of those games that are the exception, YOU MUST GRIND.

Going back to the castle to meet the king after defeating the final boss was really cool, all mosters are gone and the swamps and full of blooming flowers now.

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Overall i think it's a good experience, it's worth going through if you want to experience such an important piece of gaming history, i just wished that Square-Enix would have given the port the treatment it deserves.

 

[Viata]

If you are not going to play the original, the snes remake is the best one. No reason to play any other version.

Game took me about 10 hours to fiish, half of them was probably grinding which didn't really bothered me because i was prepared for it, i always say that JRPGs don't requiere grinding and can be finished by understanding the combat and grinding is a clutch by this is one of those games that are the exception, YOU MUST GRIND.

Yes, the reason is that Yuji Horii didn't want people to finish the game too fast. So you are forced to grind just for the game to take more time to finish.

 

[deuxhero]

Okay, just finished Dragon Quest 1, the switch port. They really fucked up this port, which is from the mobile version. They mixed different kind of sprites so it looks awfull when you play on a tv but tolerable while playing mobile.

I played the SFC port. Better graphics, though movement felt a bit disjointed. Didn't take nearly as long real time thanks to fast forward (and likely running faster than the mobile port in the first place). Inventory management is the worst part, and it would be even worse in the original where you don't have the bank to drop off key items you don't have a use for yet (making it even more linear in practice). It's worth playing a version you can fast forward to know what the genre started as, but otherwise not of interest. 3 SFC still holds up great though.

 

[Cromwell]

Im playing 11 again. I started months ago with draconian monsters and am now at the end of chapter 2 in the flying fortress. Is there a Site were I can see what the exact difference is between Monsters on normal and Draconian? All I find is whining about the difficulty and sites upon sites that tell me monsters are harder but no actual guide on the exact differences.

I still love it and have forgotten why I had stopped, maybe time or something. Has anyone beat the whole game, including chapter 3 with draconian monsters? I read that its maybe better to deactivate it because it becomes an absolute chore but that could be just whining again. Up to now I Autofight everything except bosses and have no problem, I also had no real problems with bosses until now except that I had to adjust gear sometimes and some fights where hard but not rage inducing (from my perspective). Does the third chapter get that much harder?

 

[Carpincho Pampeano]

Started Dragon Quest 2 last saturday, only got a couple of hours in. As everyone knows this time you get other party members besides the protag, the bad thing? They start at level 1 while you are like 7 or 8. Very comfy game and not as hard as people make it to be but it's too early to say for sure, i'm about to leave the first continent.

 

[Casual Hero]

I love Dragon Quest 2. Something about traveling to save the world with your cousins is very comfy.

 

[deuxhero]

Very comfy game and not as hard as people make it to be but it's too early to say for sure, i'm about to leave the first continent.

What version are you playing? DQ2 varies massively in re-releases. Even the original NES re-release had major balance changes compared to the original FC release.

 

[Swen]

Who was your waifu in DQV?

 

[Carpincho Pampeano]

Jesus Christ, the second half of Dragon Quest II is fucking bullshit, the sunken treasure probably takes the cake of the most bullshit cryptic shit in JRPG history.
I'm fucking mad.

 

[Viata]

Whenever I think "man, I should replay DQ2", the second half makes me give up.

 

[Shinji]

The first DQ Builders is now available on mobile, it seems

 

[Jinn]

It'd be pretty fucking cool if they put it on PC already, considering the sequel has been for like 3 years.

 

[Carpincho Pampeano]

Playing DQ Builders on my vita was really comfy, might play 2 in the switch someday.