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The Elder Scrolls Online - gone B2P

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by Nattvardsvin, May 3, 2012.

  1. Night Goat The Immovable Autism Patron No Fun Allowed

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    WoW has never not been garbage.
     
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  2. Wulfric Pinewood Arbiter Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    WoW to this day have that "magic" and vast lore plus milions of players and constant Dev support . It is a game that never dies and you can play it many, many ways from hardcore rpg , there are people talking on chat in elven language , to hack n slash exprience , or just adventure , pvp , etc. Compared to this ESO is just flat table without bigger scope on gameplay .
    There are so many fantastic people in the community to play with, especially roleplay that you can forget about real world pretty easily. Just visit Argent Dawn Eu server and have fun.
    Not to mention fantastic and legendary status of Warcraft history with it's first titles still playable thanks to GOG.
     
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  3. Generic-Giant-Spider Arcane

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    The problem with WoW is after a certain age or maturity level it becomes so gay to look at.
     
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  4. Wulfric Pinewood Arbiter Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    Problem with so called "mature" is that they lack self-distance and forget how to enjoy games becouse they ended as working slaves in majority.
    And mostly they are quite unhappy in their lives , tough seeking to cure their frustration on codex and other places that gather unhappy people.
    Just look at rpg codex comments, 99/100 is just yellin of agony of people who were fine gamers once, and now they are too '"elite" to enjoy simple gaming.

    Im in the category mature too, with house, family and work, but when it comes to the games im still excited like teen and have hell lot of fun for almost 90% titles i play :)
    It's just sad to see adult people seeking not a gaming in games but a way to realize their real life in the games, that is not working this way.

    Games are just games and they will be always kind of childish experience, even "most" "serious" titles are just piece of code for entertain , so take a break :)

    And in mmorpg category World of Warcraft is and always be a King, at least for milions of people who loves lore, and remeber first steps of Blizzard in the business with releasing of their legendary titles.
    Anyone who spend time with first Diablo, first Warcrafts, and later their Starcraft , will always have special place in heart for their products. And why WoW is so good, despite all its flaws and faults.

    I think Diablo 4 and new WoW expansions will bring some fresh air into many Blizzard mistakes done by last years [D3 included ] .
    Just smile and enjoy gaming, it never was such vast and great like today. We have so many titles from great indiesto AAA titles, that only problem is time to play them all.

    Games never were deep intelectual toys, there are books and other hobbies for that . Gaming should remain gaming nothing more , more or less serious but still a fun experience. Seeking something deeper in games always ends with frustration and non-ending lust for better and better titles or downloading dozen of mods.
     
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  5. Generic-Giant-Spider Arcane

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    Am I being converted to a cult or something. What am I reading.
     
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  6. ZodoZ Cipher Patron

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    Back in the day Alterac Valley was so much Fun. Occasionally alliance or horde would summon Ivus the Forest Lord or Lok'holar the Ice Lord and all hell would break loose. That battleground had so much to do. Some of the best memories from Wrath of the Lich King era.
     
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  7. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I want the 24 hour AV battles back.
     
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  8. Wyatt_Derp Cipher

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    The answer is yes.

    And the solution is to run away.
     
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  9. Alexander DeLarge Arbiter

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    Elsweyr is gorgeous and the verticality of the zone makes it my favorite zone in an MMO since some of the Heart of Thorns areas in GW2.
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Wulfric Pinewood Arbiter Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    Looks very nice , im ES series fan but when it comes to ESO it is too limited pool to swim with freedom for me. Will wait till next single player TES.
     
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  11. Beastro Arcane

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    Sounds consistant with TES summoning.

    You're mistake was assuming it would be any better~
     
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  12. Mastermind Cognito Elite Material Patron Bethestard

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    morrowing had unlimited summons (they just had to be summoned by different spells) and you could glitch them into becoming permanent, so you could build entire armies then use them to attack a city and have your head caved in by redoran guards because skeletons aren't that strong and your atronach artillery killed them all with their splash damage.
     
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  13. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    World of warcraft is shit tho.

    Principally refused to play it, we had a guy at my highschool who was 1st on his server to get Thunderfury and all he talked about all day everyday was WoW

    Then one time we were standing in our group of lads and talking, then this dude talks about orcs and someone interrupts him and say's he's an orc. Because he was a bit fat, hairy and pale like you'd expect from a hardcore WoW player, it was a fitting jab and everyone laughed at this guy's expense, then he never talked about WoW again.

    Then an expansion came out and his in-game famous status, all that hard work getting the best weapon in the game etc was all for naught as level cap was increased and his stuff lost 99.9% of it's value.
     
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  14. Alexander DeLarge Arbiter

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    The second half of your post is exactly why ESO and Guild Wars 2 are so great. People who hit Veteran Rank 16 five years ago come back to the game and they're just as viable at the end-game except in ESO there's a hundred new gear sets that add effects and change the way your character plays.
     
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  15. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, who would have thought that diminishing people's invested effort into the game by increasing the level cap would turn people off the game right - totally unexpected.
     
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  16. Andhaira Arcane

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    So, hows this game going? Crispy have you tried this yet?
     
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  17. BlackAdderBG Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    They 100% hit the wall where you understand that level scaling everything in MMO is the stupidest thing devs could have done. Not getting gear progress for 100 hours and repeating same quest formula for every zone can become veeeeeery boring very fast.
     
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  18. Wulfric Pinewood Arbiter Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    Please do yourself a favour all ESO fans [others too] and go play only one proper MMORpg called World of Warcraft Classic [or it's vanilla counterpart] . Waste your life on quality stuff.
     
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  19. Zeriel Arcane

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    """Classic""" is a joke. It's built on the modern WoW engine and even if you set that aside its missing a ton of core features that defined actual vanilla WoW, like non-instanced servers with no cross-server interaction, same-server-only-PVP-queues, and then minor, but still incredibly dumb shit like removing skeletons on death because "it's hateful".

    Any modern Blizzard game is going to be pozzed out the ass. Virtually the entire playerbase from 2006 WoW would be instantly banned if they behaved like they did back then, which tells you all you need to know.

    I can only assume the target audience for Classic is those who weren't actually there for vanilla and want to experience it for themselves, without knowing what they are experiencing isn't vanilla at all. But as the saying goes: "You can never go back."
     
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  20. ZodoZ Cipher Patron

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    It's comical to watch a few minutes of some streamer and his following going full retard about leveling to 60 in a game that thousands of people's characters leveled to 60 in 2006...Hell, I leveled like a whole guild to 60, then 70, then 80, 85, and on and on. I think Blizzard business planners sat around a table and realized that keeping the game evolving as a add new content + level cap business model was heading towards inevitable demise..I mean what level does the cap end at? 200, 1000, infinity?
    So the planners had a bright idea and re-released vanilla for Millennials. Now these sheeple will level all new toons from 1-60 and then try current flavor of WOW thereby perpetuating an endless supply of Warcraft Fodder. PLUS old school wow players will fire up a few vanilla toons for old times sake. Genius really. Hook, Line, and Sinker.
     
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  21. Zeriel Arcane

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    I think it's a bit early to call it genius, wait until it actually revives the game, as is its practically dead by the old standards of the genre, FF14 arguably has more subscribers than modern WoW.
     
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    Wut
     
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  23. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    The problem IMO isn't level scaling but that the content is scaled to be too easy and quickly becomes trivial.
    I also don't think it's correct to refer to what ESO does as "level scaling" as no scaling is actually going on. They replaced the exponential power curve of leveling with one much more linear. The majority of power increase while leveling comes from unlocking new abilities & skills rather than simply making your character "better", I don't think this is a bad design at all.
     
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    skeletons were awesome. Fuck them.
     
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