The Fermi Paradox - sci-fi narrative strategy game with Brian Mitsoda - now on Early Access

[Space Satan]

SHHHHIIIIIIEEEEEEET

 

[lightbane]

The (((Human race))) can get wiped out if you don't allow the sexually fluid youth to hold a massive orgy. They riot and end earth.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's an actual event ingame.

 

[BING XI LAO]

I think the easiest answer to the Fermi Paradox is readily apparent to anyone who has ever played a Space Strategery Game: Imagine such a game being played out for real, only one player gets a 500 turn head start.

is there still a game? Will the other players even have planets left to spawn on after 500 turns of the game?

Question better than this game.

I think if there is lots of threats to deal with. Pollution, internal wars, disease, lack of resources, ... Then maybe... yes?
However looking at the earth now, I give no chance to other species to evolve comparable brain to humans. Unless its some genetic engineering.

Aren't dolphins, elephants, whales etc reasonably intelligent? Even some corvids have childlike intelligence. Real issue is no hands.

 

[BING XI LAO]

https://www.thegamer.com/interview-the-fermi-paradox/

“In my opinion all interesting science fiction works are inherently political, and I am always a bit confused when science fiction games try to be not.”

Normie genocide when?

 

[Ibn Sina]

The (((Human race))) can get wiped out if you don't allow the sexually fluid youth to hold a massive orgy. They riot and end earth.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's an actual event ingame.

You thought I was joking? Lol.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Disgusting pozzed piece of shit masquerading as a game

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Joggerino]

I'm trying it out a bit. Game completely revolves around clicking on popup events, and when you chose one the others disappear and so on. There is some shit about diversity and all that but it's easy to miss. In this example i had these guys go on a vegan diet to avoid resource depletion. Then a 100 years later or so i get this event. "The assault rifle triumphs over vegan diet"

 

[Joggerino]

The good old mechanized infantry.. This time they're beating trannies and faggots in the streets. First option makes these sickos widely accepted in society. (These dolphins live in bunkers after a planet wide nuclear war)

 

[Storyfag]

These... society states or how would you call them, are so ludicruous it beggars belief. I'd get if cops were beating trannies and state security made "social engineers" disappear. But mechanized infantry? Blown out of proportion much?

 

[Joggerino]

It's just what they call it in the digital age, every age has a unique term for it's armies. Anyway i finally finished a game. Pretty boring, won't play again. Spent several hours clicking popups.

 

[Storyfag]

Doesn't make it better. Usually you don't send armies to quell dissent.

 

[Raghar]

These... society states or how would you call them, are so ludicruous it beggars belief. I'd get if cops were beating trannies and state security made "social engineers" disappear. But mechanized infantry? Blown out of proportion much?

Not sure about that. We had Polish tanks on streets when government tried do introduce limited market economy into socialism. Nights were bright from tracers when they were shooting at random mice. And Prague population said they never had as much shit on park benches as after Polish/Ukrainian soldiers camped there.

I'm pretty sure advanced civilizations could do more deranged stuff.

 

[Storyfag]

These... society states or how would you call them, are so ludicruous it beggars belief. I'd get if cops were beating trannies and state security made "social engineers" disappear. But mechanized infantry? Blown out of proportion much?

Not sure about that. We had Polish tanks on streets when government tried do introduce limited market economy into socialism. Nights were bright from tracers when they were shooting at random mice. And Prague population said they never had as much shit on park benches as after Polish/Ukrainian soldiers camped there.

I'm pretty sure advanced civilizations could do more deranged stuff.

Yeah, but that was done to keep our common overlords' hold on you. A few trannies on the streets can't hope to have *nearly* the same impact as Pepiks provig gommunism can be mixed with market economy.

 

[lightbane]

Subtlety and common sense are tools of the Patriarchy for SJWs.
They wouldn't be part of the cult if they were able to think carefully.

 

[Nutria]

So this is just a bunch of false choices where you're asked if you want to be the bad guy or not? And anything but the extreme-left option is the bad guy choice?

I don't mind playing a game by people who disagree with me about politics. I've learned a lot from games like Hidden Agenda that were made by people way to the left of me. But wtf am I going to learn from something this heavy-handed except that I should not take these people seriously?

 

[Norfleet]

I think the easiest answer to the Fermi Paradox is readily apparent to anyone who has ever played a Space Strategery Game: Imagine such a game being played out for real, only one player gets a 500 turn head start.

is there still a game? Will the other players even have planets left to spawn on after 500 turns of the game?

Question better than this game.

I think if there is lots of threats to deal with. Pollution, internal wars, disease, lack of resources, ... Then maybe... yes?
However looking at the earth now, I give no chance to other species to evolve comparable brain to humans. Unless its some genetic engineering.

Aren't dolphins, elephants, whales etc reasonably intelligent? Even some corvids have childlike intelligence. Real issue is no hands.

Maybe, but they're late to the party, and thus they've lost the race to be the first civilization. If they form a civilization after us, it'll be them combing through our wreckage, and they won't be asking the question of whether other life existed on Earth.

Also, life on a planet probably has one chance to escape. The first civilization to reach an advanced stage, that fails to escape the planet, will consume so much of the planetary resources that there will not be enough left for any subsequent successors. We'll have burned off all the oil, so there will no longer be anything left for subsequent attempts at trying to into space. If anyone comes after us, they'll be marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet...buried alive...

 

[BING XI LAO]

Maybe, but they're late to the party, and thus they've lost the race to be the first civilization. If they form a civilization after us, it'll be them combing through our wreckage, and they won't be asking the question of whether other life existed on Earth.

Also, life on a planet probably has one chance to escape. The first civilization to reach an advanced stage, that fails to escape the planet, will consume so much of the planetary resources that there will not be enough left for any subsequent successors. We'll have burned off all the oil, so there will no longer be anything left for subsequent attempts at trying to into space. If anyone comes after us, they'll be marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet...buried alive...

I'm no expert but I just googled it and fossil fuel deposits are only like 500 million years old max, probably usually much younger than that, if the sun lasts another 5 billion years, we could have room for easily 10 attempts!

 

[Norfleet]

I'm no expert but I just googled it and fossil fuel deposits are only like 500 million years old max, probably usually much younger than that, if the sun lasts another 5 billion years, we could have room for easily 10 attempts!

There's more than just fossil fuels, though. Mineral resources dug up, consumed, and rendered into forms not easily recoverable, are not going to be available to subsequent attempts. While the sun might last another 5 billion years, conditions on Earth will probably become decidedly hostile to life much sooner than that. Especially since, if human civilization implodes and humans go extinct, the next attempt ought to come very quickly to take advantage of all the wreckage we've left behind...but without very much in the way of resources. Each such rapidly succeeding attempt will deplete what is left even harder, so rather than everything having 500 million years to try to rebuild from scratch, it'll be a bunch of crabs in a bucket, over and over, because the trove of jumpstart lostech left behind will just make things so much easier...but then it turns out there's no resources to move beyond.

 

[Joggerino]

So this is just a bunch of false choices where you're asked if you want to be the bad guy or not? And anything but the extreme-left option is the bad guy choice?

I don't mind playing a game by people who disagree with me about politics. I've learned a lot from games like Hidden Agenda that were made by people way to the left of me. But wtf am I going to learn from something this heavy-handed except that I should not take these people seriously?

Well you have these events with three choices and they usually have a pretty strong impact. Then you also have extinction events, which are almost always: 1. pay synthesis to avoid 2. 90% of pops die and civilization goes to shit 3. total extinction. When you advance a tech tier you also get three strong choices. Other then that there's not much to do but read flavor text. And yeah, as you can see on the screenshot making the rainbow freaks a pillar of society would give you a strong utopia boost. Utopia is mostly about "tolerance" "diversity" "non-violence" "veganism" and high utopia allows you to easily bypass negative events and also avoid resource scarcity. High dystopia is a disaster pretty much, such civs will never make it.

 

[Norfleet]

And yet...

 

[JarlFrank]

And yet...

At this point, 40k would be the preferable future.

There's no purging in Star Trek. But there are various forms of exterminatus in 40k.

 

[lightbane]

Interesting thoughts regarding having or lacking the resources to go spacefaring.
Regarding these choices, is it possible to win the game by being a rightwing caricature, or at least avoid choosing the insane leftard choices, or are you doomed to fail if you don't have your citizens eat bugs?

At this point, 40k would be the preferable future.

Funny how even Star Trek has become a shadow of its former self since STD, with things ranging from blatant ignorance, to casually insulting the fans of the previous shows, or outright making stale "jokes" against Trump.
By now, WH40k is slightly more preferable.

 

[Norfleet]

Interesting thoughts regarding having or lacking the resources to go spacefaring.

Yeah, spacefaring is tricky: You need sufficient deposits of fuel and minerals to be able to afford the industrial economy and rockets to actually launch anything into space. Which means if intelligent life arises too early, these resources haven't formed yet and they cannot into space, so their societies will consume what little there without ever being able to into space. Then if they fall and are quickly replaced because they've now made an easy niche to fill, either by the survivors or a new species (other monkeys, crows, etc.), that new attempt will find the resources already mostly gone, so they cannot into space, etc.

 

[Norfleet]

Other then that there's not much to do but read flavor text. And yeah, as you can see on the screenshot making the rainbow freaks a pillar of society would give you a strong utopia boost. Utopia is mostly about "tolerance" "diversity" "non-violence" "veganism" and high utopia allows you to easily bypass negative events and also avoid resource scarcity. High dystopia is a disaster pretty much, such civs will never make it.

Is there a sensible middle-ground option where we don't throw them from buildings, but also don't treat them as special and just ignore them?