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The Future of RPGs: Looking Forward to Sequels

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by DarkUnderlord, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. DarkUnderlord Professional Throne Sitter

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    <p>G4TV have decided to <a href="http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/707941/The-Future-of-RPGs-Looking-Forward-At-Diablo-3-Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Mass-Effect-3-And-More.html">depress us all by looking ahead</a> at the coming year in RPG-dom:</p>
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    <p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim:</strong> We don't know much about The Elder Scrolls 5, except that it's finally actually coming out, and will arrive on 11/11/11. Perhaps the best news of all around the announcement of the game was the fact that it would be using an entirely new engine, rather than the beginning-to-show-its-age Gamebryo engine.

    <strong>Mass Effect 3: </strong>We also know that players can expect an even deeper character/save file transfer system, more sophisticated enemies and combat, and, sadly, more mining, albeit via a more streamlined version of it. While it will most likely be a little less than a year before ME3 hits our disc trays, BioWare will be bridging the gap between ME2 and ME3 through DLC.

    <strong>Diablo 3: </strong>[...] visions of the game&rsquo;s countless new features including the Artisan system, which gives you access to traveling craftsmen (blacksmith, mystic, or a jeweler), or the new Skill Runes system, which lets you fundamentally change skills in a variety of ways depending on the rune you use (i.e. acid-spewing poison Hydra heads vs. chain lighting powered Hydra heads). In short, Diablo fans are in for an experience that should feel simultaneously familiar yet fresh and exciting.

    <strong>Dragon Age 2: </strong>BioWare came right out and asked gamers, "What didn&rsquo;t work?" in Dragon Age: Origins when it started development on Dragon Age II, and the feedback the team received from this question directly influenced how they approached every aspect of the sequel. For starters, the game sports an improved graphics engine and art style that will give the game a much grittier tone.

    <strong>Hunted: The Demon's Forge: </strong>The "Gears of WarCraft" descriptor that the developers at inXile Entertainmnet have applied to their fantasy RPG makes much more sense when you see the game in action.

    <strong>Deus Ex: Human Revolution: </strong>Want to go guns blazing for a little and then do some stealth? Go for it. Hack a little here, convince someone to share a password there. It's up to you. This kind of freedom will ultimately create an experience that is different every time, which has quickly become a staple of modern RPGs.

    <strong>The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings: </strong>For the sequel, the developers have focused a lot of attention on the non-linearity of the experience by giving players an absurd number of ways to progress through the game. For example, one jailbreak sequence has over 600 possible variations!</p>
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    <p>Highlights: Demon's Forge is not Wasteland, Fargo! BioWare ask for improvements and the thing they fix is the graphics to make it "grittier". If Deus Ex created some kind of staple for freedom in RPGs, I haven't seen it and 600 possible variations? My fat hairy prison-escaping ass.

    Spotted @ <a href="http://www.sorcerers.net/">Sorcerers.net</a></p>
     
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  2. Andhaira Arcane

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    2011 looks like it will be a good year for rpgs.

    Also, does anyone know if twitcher will be ported to consoles? From what I recall, twitcher 1 was pc only.
     
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  3. Serious_Business Best Poster on the Codex

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    Stay the fuck back in GD
     
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  4. I ASK INANE QUESTIONS ITZ NEVER STOPS COOOMING Patron

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  5. 1451 Seeker In My Safe Space

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    From the g4tv list only Witcher 2 is an actual role playing game, in my humble opinion. If the rumors are true and the protagonist of Dragon Age 2 is Morrigan's son i will not play this game.
    Because in Dragon Age 1 i chose not to engage in coitus with Morrigan.
     
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  6. Phelot Arcane

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    LOL NOTHING IT WAS PERFECT SCORE GOTY!!!!
     
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  7. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    MCA Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
    No, you're some random kid who can apparently be either a boy or a girl from the first town you visit. His last name is Hawke, since everyone loves Shepard.

    The next Bioware series will star a PC whose last name is either:
    a) Titan
    b) Power
    c) Shepard
     
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  8. Baron Arcane

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    I can't respect any list of RPGs that doesn't include a party full of Lords and Ninjas. Pls add this.

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  9. CrunchyHemorrhoids Prophet

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    They forgot another sequel: Dungeon Siege 3.

    They're planning to port it later.

    His title? Commander.
     
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  10. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    "From the g4tv list only Witcher 2 is an actual role playing game"

    Bullshit.

    First off, Wither is an Action RPG and DA has more role-playing in its pinky finger than Wither does in its entirety since no matter what you are the lame ass uncool white hair dude.
     
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  11. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    wow, Wizardry is still going strong in Japan.

    did they acquire the rights to it somehow?
     
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  12. 1451 Seeker In My Safe Space

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    Volourn you may be right, but i was comparing Dragon Age 2 and Witcher 2. And in Dragon Age 2 you have a pre-defined character just like in Witcher 2.
    It doesn't matter if you change his sex, he still remains commander Hawke.
     
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  13. Bulba Learned

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    Who is commander hawke? your mom?

    you don't have to be a fighter
     
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  14. Shannow Waster of Time

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    Yada yada

    Yay, shitty DLC, shitty gameplay and shitty implementation of mechanics that were previously promised! My money is safe!
    So do we even count this under "RPG"? Doesn't even seem to be a H&SRPG anymore, more an equipment and DRM powered "action" game.
    Stop the lies, Kill the liars.

    Gears of War? Isn't that the game the console crack babies all rave about?
    Shitty sequel to a game I don't give a fuck about.

    There are literary 10.000 endings in FO3!

    Meh. What a sad list, when Skirim is the only game which potentionally could turn out to be an RPG (albeit a bad one), and only one of two that I'm even slightly interested in :/
     
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  15. Crooked Bee (no longer) a wide-wandering bee Patron

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    Codex 2013 Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire MCA Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    "600 possible variations"? Lawl.
     
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  16. tindrli Arcane

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    just cant believe that someone complained about graphics while all other aspects were BAD!!! or almost BAD!!
     
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  17. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    I love how the shopped pix have trolled the entire Codex into thinking DA2 will look like something from 90's.
     
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  18. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    "Volourn you may be right,"

    mAY? mAY? mAY? I 8am8 right.


    " but i was comparing Dragon Age 2 and Witcher 2."

    Comparing two games not even out. Best of luck with that espicially when they're boths equels since they'll be like their originals.

    On top of that, TW creators have alreayd admitted their combat will be more 'actiony' (which is hard to believe since TW's combat was already actiony (nothing wrong with that though since there's nopthing inherenetly wrong with being an Action RPG.


    "And in Dragon Age 2 you have a pre-defined
    character just like in Witcher 2."

    No, this simply isn't true. Only things defined for DA2 character is last name, race, and family history. It should be noted, btw, that people tend not to be able to define their own family. However, class, personality, motivations, and eevrything in DA2 is defined by the player.

    Unlike TW2 where everything about the character is alreadyd efined espicially since it is based off a book. In TW2 your character's name, abilities, personality, history, and basically everything else is defined. Hell, even PST gave you more freedom with TNO than TW series does.


    "It doesn't matter if you change his sex, he still remains commander Hawke"

    Who exactly is Commander Hawke? He/she's personality is what? Is he evil or good? Is he a clam leader type? A charge in take no prisoners barbarian? Is he a nerdy wizard? Is she a pyrotechnic who likes to blow shit up? Does it kick puppies or feed them? Does he steal everything not tied down or does she give alms to the poor?

    So, my friend, who the fuck is YOUR Commander Hawke since I bet your Commander Hawke is different than my Commander Hawke but I bet white haired freak is the same monster hunting white haired freak as my same monster hunting white haired freak. Capiche?


    No cobntest here. Despite all the smearing about DA2, no doubt with all its flaws it will be more of a RPG than TW2 will be. Ity will be by default no matter how much C&C either game has.

    Espiically since DA's combat relies heavily more on stats than TW does. Hence why TW2 is Action RPG and DA2 is not. Quality here is irrelevant.


    R00fles!
     
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  19. IronicNeurotic Arbiter

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    So, according to this. Since Quality is irrelevant...


    Oblivion is more of an rpg than Dragon Age?
     
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  20. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    No, because Oblivion is a shitty RPG that lacks role-playing.

    But, I'd argue that KOTOR is more of a RPG than BG is though BG is the better game.

    Or TOEE is a better RPG than IWD even though I liked IWD more.
     
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  21. Hegel Arcane

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    Oh no! Not this again.
     
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  22. MetalCraze Arcane

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    I thought the newspost is about rpgs?
     
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  23. Lumpy Arcane

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    "Dragon Age 2: BioWare came right out and asked gamers, "What didn’t work?" in Dragon Age: Origins when it started development on Dragon Age II, and the feedback the team received from this question directly influenced how they approached every aspect of the sequel. For starters, the game sports an improved graphics engine and art style that will give the game a much grittier tone."
    What a fucking cop out. Of course a sequel is going to have better graphics - how does that constitute "listening to the fans"?
     
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  24. MonkeyLancer Educated

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    you like IWD more, because TOEE has cloud's sword, right? Oops! ooh right .. that's not you who says that

    edit: Konjad, hope springs eternal
     
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