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Mass Effect The Mass Effect builds thread, Legendary Edition

J1M

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This thread is for discussing how to squeeze as much enjoyment as possible out of the re-release of the Mass Effect trilogy. In particular, character builds, playstyles, and config options. There are other threads for discussing romances and plot holes.


Tweaks
Fortunately, Mass Effect was built on the Unreal engine, which means that players can modify config files to fix a number of things that the game developers overlooked while worrying about Xbox memory limitations. This link is a great resource and explains how to do things like turn off bloom and depth of field: https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/PC_Tweaks


Difficulty

The first thing to consider is the difficulty level that you want to play on. The first Mass Effect was long enough ago that Normal difficulty can provide a decent experience and the hardest difficulties were locked away behind completing the game. It's difficult to take opinions about the difficulty at face value. People rarely discuss the aim assist setting or how many achievements they had that grant permanent power boosts. (Though it is very common for people to mention the ones that allow use of cross-class skills.)

In the legendary edition, all difficulty levels are available without unlocks.

Mass Effect 2 and 3 allow you to import save games, granting additional player power which further muddies the difficulty discussion. However, the last couple of games are considered somewhat 'easier' across all difficulties.

TLDR: If that doesn't help you decide, just play on Veteran.


Important Tips
  • ME1: Be sure to complete the side mission UNC: Rogue VI to unlock subclass bonuses.
  • ME2: You aren't missing anything if you use cheats to give yourself the resources provided by planet scanning. Progression is still gated by finding blueprints.
  • ME3: Have very low expectations for the ending. Also, each medi-gel you pick up that you don't need grants 150 XP.

Classes

There are 6 character classes in Mass Effect. Each either focuses heavily in one area (guns, tech, biotics) or splits focus between two of them. Bioware made several assumptions about the audience during development of Mass Effect. One of the main assumptions was that the vast majority of players would pick the Soldier class and ignore the tech/biotic options. That's why the Soldier is the default option and clearly had the most play-testing in the first game. Mass Effect 2 did a better job of distilling the fantasy associated with the Adept, Vanguard, and Infiltrator at the cost of intra-class build variety. Mass Effect 3 left the class design largely the same and introduced more synergies between skills.

Soldier: Completely viable at all difficulty levels across all three games. Can equip/specialize in any weapon. High survivability. A bit bland.

Infiltrator: Strong combat class with good utility skills. (Pistol skills are just as effective as the Assault Rifle in ME1.) Can invest in Fitness or high shielding for defense. ME1 offers a couple of different build options (see below). ME2 shifts the class heavily towards a sniper play style with sniping bonuses not also available to the Soldier.

Vanguard: An attempt at making a shotgun-focused class. Not successful in ME1 in part due to redundant defensive and biotic control abilities. In ME2 the class was revitalized by giving it a unique playstyle that centers around the new Biotic Charge ability.

Engineer:
The human omni-tool. ME1 was more of a traditional RPG, and this class had a skill focus for interacting with things in the environment such as doors, locks, and robots. In practice, it was essentially a weaker version of the Infiltrator. In ME2 some of those things were replaced with mini-games, and the class leaned more in the direction of a pet class or caster and has a better variety of damage types than most classes.

Adept:
The caster of Mass Effect. ME1 Adepts follow the traditional trajectory of feeling weak before eventually being able to control the battlefield. Due to the way the global cooldown functions in ME2, the Adept was considered weaker and less enjoyable to play than ME1. It also lost some abilities/power as part of streamlining. In ME3, the cooldown can be made shorter and additional synergies with biotic combo detonations make it possible to play through the game as a pure caster.

Sentinel:
This is a defensive support class in a game where the entire premise is that the player needs to lead. Even those attracted to support classes should look elsewhere. Other classes have better ways to control the battlefield or apply splash damage. The Sentinel can't even boost team damage because it has no ammo powers. I don't believe anyone on the dev team was ever motivated to work on this class.

Class recommendations:
  • ME1: Infiltrator (Most of the Soldier benefits plus skill self-sufficiency)
  • ME2: Vanguard (The cooldown changes encourage gunplay and Biotic Charge is fun)
  • ME3: Adept (Biotic combos and cooldown synergies)


Recommended Character Builds
To my knowledge, there isn't a nice talent calculator for Mass Effect that allows people to easily craft and share character builds the way that you can for WoW or D&D. So here's a wall of text and a picture.

"Jack" Shepard (ME1 Infiltrator)
Part of the reason I enjoy this build is because I don't think it was intended by the designers and it is no longer possible in ME2/ME3. The general idea is that you charge into combat like a SWAT team breaching a building by deploying your AOE damage abilities to erase shields, overheat weapons, and stun enemies, then activate the pistol Marksman ability to clean up any stragglers. By the time you make it to the next encounter your abilities should be ready again.

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  • Pistols: rank 3 ASAP, rank 12 sooner than later
  • Sniper Rifles: this weapon can still be useful on some missions, but don't spend points here
  • Tactical Armor: rank 8 to unlock Shield Boost and medium armor
  • Fitness: Immunity is one of the strongest abilities. Immunity's duration has been drastically nerfed in the remaster. Probably to make enemy soldiers easier to kill. Alternatively, you can rely on regenerating shields for defense.
  • Electronics: rank 4 ASAP for Overload and to unlock Damping, additional ranks as needed to increase shields
  • Damping: rank 1 ASAP for Damping ability, additional points improve all tech abilities
  • Decryption: rank 1 ASAP for Sabotage ability, additional points improve all tech abilities
  • First Aid: no ranks, a squad mate will always have this
  • Infiltrator: rank 6, this is great and each point makes everything you care about marginally better
  • Operative/Commando: solid, but lower priority
  • Assault Training (cross-class): rank 3
  • Charm/Intimidate: keep topped up for additional dialogue options
  • Cross-class skill: Assault Training for Adrenaline Burst to reset the cooldowns on all of your abilities.
  • Subclass: Both are good options. Operative's cooldown reduction may be better for those without Adrenaline Burst.


"Rush" Shepard (ME2 Vanguard)
A pretty standard Vanguard build, but enjoyable to play because you can create opportunities instead of waiting behind cover until they present themselves. Note that if you are playing on Insanity you will probably want to select a class with a sniper rifle. The limited survivability on that difficulty level will strongly encourage using cover and fighting at range.
  • The Geth shotgun is amazing for removing defenses and fairly accurate compared to other shotguns.
  • Avoid putting more than minimal points in Cryo Ammo and Shockwave. Neither works against enemies with shielding/armor and significant enemies will have at least one of those.
  • A point in Shockwave can be useful against husks because physics attacks kill husks in one hit if they don't have armor.
  • Don't feel constrained to only the shotgun.
  • Take the Area Charge option for Biotic Charge.
  • Take the Champion option for Assault Mastery.
  • Pick Inferno Ammo if you will mostly use squad mates that have their own ammo points. Otherwise, squad ammo is a good choice.


"Gambit" Shepard (ME3 Adept)
The difference between building a ME3 Adept that feels like slick space wizard and one that feels like an ivory tower hack is understanding the biotic cooldown and combo systems. This playstyle involves sticking to cover and casting biotics to create chaos. Unlike most builds, you choose targets and can curve shots around cover, but you don't need to worry about aiming or headshots.
  • This build benefits more than any other from having an imported ME2 character.
  • The main source of damage will be biotic combos, which means the priority is minimizing cooldown time and having a high level primer/detonator. That means carrying minimal guns to stay at -200% power recharge speed.
  • Power choices that increase biotic combo damage are important. They will be the main source of damage and fortunately deal bonus damage to barriers/armor, which often prevent biotic control effects. For example, trigger a combo by applying Pull/Warp to a target and then detonate it with Throw.
  • Throw evolutions: Force, Detonate, Double Throw
  • Pull evolutions: Radius, Expose, Double Pull
  • Warp evolutions: Detonate, Expose, Recharge Speed (can prime shielded targets for detonations)
  • Singularity evolutions: Radius, Recharge Speed, Expand (less useful than Pull)
  • Biotic Mastery evolutions: Damage & Force, Damage & Capacity, Power Mastery (increases damage)
  • Fitness evolutions: Durability, Barrier Recharge, Fitness Expert (increases surviability)
  • Cluster Grenade: A challenge to aim, low priority for skill points. If you throw several at an Atlus mech it can function like a heavy weapon.
  • Shockwave: Not worth any points on higher difficulties.
  • As far as bonus powers go, Defense Matrix is the best defensive choice, and functions similar to the defensive powers in Mass Effect 2. Due to the way it increases power cooldowns, you will want to leave it off and then use it twice to restore shields.
  • Lash (Detonate, Recharge Speed, Shield Penetration) is an interesting offensive bonus power alternative. It functions like a Pull that can be used on shielded enemies. It also offers another Detonate evolution to boost the damage of all biotic explosions, which means it can be of value even if you never use it. Unlocked after the Omega missions. Note: you may not want to rush to Omega due to some notably difficult combat encounters.
  • Garrus and James are good squad choices. They do enough weapon damage to kill some enemies on their own, provide Overload to address the Adept's biggest weakness, and have more survivability than other options.
 
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This thread is for discussing how to squeeze as much enjoyment as possible out of the re-release of the Mass Effect trilogy

Let me help you. Start -> Add/Remove Programs -> Uninstall Mass Effect Trilogy.

Life is too short, why are you doing this to yourself?
 
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You've left out the most important part.
The answer as to why in the everloving fuck would you ever theorycraft for Mass Effect of all things.
 

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None of the mass effects are RPGs you don't need builds.
You don't 'need' a build to finish the game. But there are distinct playstyles that are only available if you have the right combination of skills. The thread is about giving people that information to have more fun with something they intend to revisit.
 

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Sentinel: This is a defensive support class in a game where the entire premise is that the player needs to lead. Even those attracted to support classes should look elsewhere. Other classes have better ways to control the battlefield or apply splash damage. The Sentinel can't even boost team damage because it has no ammo powers. I don't believe anyone on the dev team was ever motivated to work on this class.
...For real? Any class that has both Warp and Overload is a winner. I guess you can use Miranda for that instead of Shepard, but two Sentinels are even better than one.
 

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Sentinel: This is a defensive support class in a game where the entire premise is that the player needs to lead. Even those attracted to support classes should look elsewhere. Other classes have better ways to control the battlefield or apply splash damage. The Sentinel can't even boost team damage because it has no ammo powers. I don't believe anyone on the dev team was ever motivated to work on this class.
...For real? Any class that has both Warp and Overload is a winner. I guess you can use Miranda for that instead of Shepard, but two Sentinels are even better than one.
Would be happy to learn something new if you have more details, but my opinion is that the Sentinel's Tech Armor is easily the worst class-specific ability. For the playstyle I think you are referring to I suspect an Engineer with Overload/Incinerate would be superior.
 

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Would be happy to learn something new if you have more details, but my opinion is that the Sentinel's Tech Armor is easily the worst class-specific ability. For the playstyle I think you are referring to I suspect an Engineer with Overload/Incinerate would be superior.
I suppose I was mainly talking about ME2. Stripping away enemy defenses is one of the top priorities in ME2 and the Sentinel is the only one that can do it by himself (Warp for barriers and armor, Overload for shields). ME3's Overload does work on biotic barriers, so it's no longer a point in the Sentinel's favor.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
They should have opened the bonus talents up a bit more. Didn't you get a bonus skill for completing it on insane during ME1 or something?. You could be an infiltrator, and then gain a bionic power or rifle proficiency or something like that. Not sure if I remember if it carried over into ME2 - I think it did.

Then they gave you that thief character (Kasumi I think) in ME2 that had that awesome backstab ability. And she was the only character in the game that had it. Pretty sure I remember MCA once saying that doing that was a no-no in games?.
 

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Kasumi had awesome tacticool backstab ability. She's ultimate j-girl simp material. Many sniffs were taken around her personal room. Ultimately I settled down with Jack.
 

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Kasumi had awesome tacticool backstab ability. She's ultimate j-girl simp material. Many sniffs were taken around her personal room. Ultimately I settled down with Jack.
Were you upset that she wanted to get with the black guy instead of you?
 

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During my first university year I became friend with these two guys who kept saying that Mass Effect 2 was their favorite game ever and Mass Effect was the best series in the history of videogames. So please stop posting in this thread because this gives me ptsd.
 

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During my first university year I became friend with these two guys who kept saying that Mass Effect 2 was their favorite game ever and Mass Effect was the best series in the history of videogames. So please stop posting in this thread because this gives me ptsd.

Where are these men today? What did they do with their lives?
 

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I could understand this kind of a thread if the game were out already and it was somehow good enough to justify this much effort put into it, but... it's not, so, uh...

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I could understand this kind of a thread if the game were out already and it was somehow good enough to justify this much effort put into it, but... it's not, so, uh...
The games were released in 2007, 2010, and 2012.
 

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Okay, so you're telling me you came up with a thesis in 2021 on how to build characters in a series of action games released over a decade ago because... why again?

Obviously you're looking forward to the Legendary edition. But it takes a special kind of autism to pre-plan these characters before said edition has even been released.

Just admit it. You're a fanboy.
 

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