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The More You Know, ToEE Edition™

Discussion in 'ToEE Modding' started by Sitra Achara, May 26, 2015.

  1. Sitra Achara Arcane Patron

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    Bits of trivia and curious cases I've stumbled upon while spelunking in the ToEE DLL:

    The ToEE stat roller ensured you get at least one stat that is at least 13, and that sum of derived modifiers is at least positive. It also happens to give you all 18s if you roll 10,000 times... and all 3s if you roll past that!
     
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  2. Sitra Achara Arcane Patron

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    bwahaha

    [​IMG]

    That's the sort of thing you run into when trying to diagnose ToEE's crappy pathfinding :P
     
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  3. Black Arcane

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    Ye, it really is fun when you try to charge at an enemy and the game finds ridiculous ways to not let that happen.
    One of the reasons I respect the DOS pathfinding so much.
     
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  4. Pugmeister Educated Patron

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    Found more bullshit.
    In the material files (*.mdf), you either have to use backslashes or slashes in your texture filenames, depending on whether you write "Textured" or "General" in the first line... Wat?

    Texture "art\ground\block_ll.tga"
    vs.
    Texture 0 "art/meshes/monsters/Gelatinous_cube/G_cube.tga"

    If you use backslashes in General" materials, they're just eaten up.
     
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  5. Did you try two back slashes? \\
     
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  6. Pugmeister Educated Patron

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    Yeah, their parser is buggy and doesnt allow for \\.
    They also consistently used slashes in the "General" ones and backslashes in the "Textured" ones.
     
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  7. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    uhh...

    [​IMG]

    :negative:
     
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  8. Sitra Achara Arcane Patron

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    Ironically, I missed the fact that the above check only applies to Ironman games :P
     
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  9. Hegel Arcane

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    Just use the stats cheat.
     
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  10. Black Arcane

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    If you don't roll for over a thousand times for those sweet 18s and 16s then how can you even say you played the game??
     
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  11. Aothan Magister

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    I'm okay with 14s and 16s for main attributes, probably because most characters are usually quasi-'hybrids' to begin with (i.e. Rangers, Druids and Paladins) although even 'min' attributes are typically 12 or more but I would like a system where a set number of rolls are available for the entire party. So you have maybe 10 - 15 rolls and the six or so selected and then the character sheets one uses for characters
     
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  12. Sitra Achara Arcane Patron

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    Or, just set the point buy to whatever you want :P
     
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  13. Sitra Achara Arcane Patron

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    Did you know ToEE had an Awesome Mode? It really was ahead of its time! Simply type 'critical' into the console to enable.
     
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  14. Heinous Hat Scholar

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    It's shit if you can't map it to a button.

    I suppose there's some lame technical excuse as to why we can't have controller support :mad:
     
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  15. Yeah! I want to play ToEE on my couch!
     
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    I am slightly curious~ UFO Afterlight is becoming easy, now that I got the moves down pat. POssibly time to get to a new tactical game. Will TOEE be that one?
     
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  17. Aothan Magister

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    difficult varies at points throughout the game, but even early and battles that might appear straightforward can spontaneously produce challenge by way of unexpected developments, e.g. one or more creatures has a favourable die roll on your character. And whilst some might say this randomness is a flaw in encounter design, the design as a whole is structured around this type of interplay - so characters and parties need to adjust to situations as they arise

    I would recommend giving the game a good try, not metagaming by way of guides and the likes, and enjoying the experience as intended

    edit: btw this is probably in the wrong thread >_<
     
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  18. Sitra Achara Arcane Patron

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    I'd even say that the game is balanced on the assumption that sometimes your characters die and lag behind a level on average due to resurrection.
     
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