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The most complex RPG to date?

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Barbader, Jun 7, 2008.

  1. POOPERSCOOPER Prophet

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    Probably arcanum but not in a good way, theres so many ways to fuck up a character.


    TOEE is definitely a hard game in combat for beginners.
     
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  2. deuxhero Arcane

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    So you don't think Nethack or dwarf fortress are serious anwsers?
     
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  3. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    What... the... fuck...?
     
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  4. barker_s Cipher Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Grab the Codex by the pussy RPG Wokedex
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  5. Unradscorpion Arbiter

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    Dwarf Fortress isn't complicated, it maybe is the most advanced thing out there, but gameplaywise adventure mode is not complicated in any way.
     
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  6. gamefan Scholar

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    mine sweeper :lol:


    But seriously, the only real complex game ive played was t.o.e.e.
     
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  8. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    How about Wizardry 8? Heavy-stat character creation, complex TB battles, a huge world and a text adventure parser.
     
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  9. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    True. Wiz8 is awesome. Then again, there's also Wiz7 which is a bit harder to play without dying.
     
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  10. Barbader Novice

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    complex not means complicate
     
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  11. Unradscorpion Arbiter

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    My point still stands as there isn't much options or strategy in DF adv. mode.
     
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  12. Jaime Lannister Arbiter

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    Dwarf Fortress - strategy game

    Nethack - unintuitive without nearly as many options as ToEE.
     
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    Dungeon Siege 3 will be teh most complex gaem evar.
     
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  14. MetalCraze Arcane

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    Fable 2. one button for everything
     
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  15. Binary Liturgist

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    ADOM

    Thread can be closed
     
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  16. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    Nethack might just be just as complex.
    Just read up the sink and fountain mechanics.

    ADOM has way better graphix though. :graphixwhore:
     
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  17. Mareus Magister

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    You guys are probably gonna laugh, but if we are talking about complexity I really think nothing beats WOW. Yeah, it's a MMORPG grinding game, a genre which I really hate BTW, but when it comes to character development, I really have not seen anything so complex. Just think about it; you have many (it's late and I don't feel like counting) races, many classes, professions, skills, subclasses, thousands of items and everything is in the end pretty much balanced with up to 70 levels. I hate to admit it, but pretty damn good job Blizzard.

    From single player games I played I would say: Wizardry 7
    It's really heavily stat based, with a huge world and also very, very hard. You even have to have a cartographer skill to draw maps, or swimming skill so you don't drown, or a climbing skill so you can climb. I really don't think anything from newer games is so complex, but there may be some old titles that I haven't heard of.
     
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  18. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I agree 100%, but Wizardry 7 is both.
     
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  20. Trojan_generic Magister

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    I don't think the mechanics in Nethack are so complex, it's just that some things happen most of the time, some happen less than half the time and some have a very small chance (down to 1/1000 or so) of happening as a result of the same action.

    I would really like to see more of this kind of behavior in games and the hilarious discussions and arguments ensuing in gaming forums. It isn't really that hard to implement.
     
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  21. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    Darklands is certainly a lot more complex than Arcanum and Wizardry 7 together.
     
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  22. OsirisGod Scholar

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    Arcanum and for me Gothic I as the game that had free roaming without sandbox feel ala ES , seemed complex for me and still have to see that replicated in another title , to bad character development wise its so poor in choices.
     
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  23. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    Gothic isn't complex at all to me. What do you mean with complex? I feel we're using the same words but different meanings.
     
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  24. OsirisGod Scholar

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    The game itself is complex :) maybe its not the most complex RPG but sure is one of the most complex games i ever played.
     
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  25. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    You should play Ultima 7 then, it should blow your mind. It is like Gothic but with even more details.
     
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