Preview The Outer Worlds 2 at IGN First: New Flaws System

[Infinitron]

Tags: Brandon Adler; Obsidian Entertainment; The Outer Worlds 2

https://www.ign.com/videos/the-outer-worlds-2-first-look-at-the-new-flaws-system-ign-first

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[Fedora Master]

Front page worthy news...

 

[MerchantKing]

I wish I was paid money to post IGN videos on video game forums.

 

[Cohesion]

I wish I was paid money to post IGN videos on video game forums.

That's because you are a fake gnome. It's your shtick, not your essence.

We need based supermod to retardo news topics like this. Alas.

 

[TheImplodingVoice]

Tags: Brandon Adler; Obsidian Entertainment; The Outer Worlds 2

https://www.ign.com/videos/the-outer-worlds-2-first-look-at-the-new-flaws-system-ign-first

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fuck off shill

 

[luj1]

is any other game allowed on the front page?

 

[MerchantKing]

is any other game allowed on the front page?

I'm sure if someone pays enough money, a different game will be on the front page.

 

[ciox]

Transcript:
No one used flaws in the first game, so we turned them into Fallout 1 traits, except you can take them mid-game. Except you could also do that in Fallout with Mutate perk. But enough about that, we're actually still looking for ways to bait players into actually taking flaws. One idea is having a flaw that forces you to take other flaws automatically. Maybe you'll pick that one by mistake or something? We'd be in the pink then.

 

[Raghar]

is any other game allowed on the front page?

I'm sure if someone pays enough money, a different game will be on the front page.

Are you sure they pay him money for that? When I look at new games at pirate servers these are:

Spoiler

Mandragora Whispers of the Witch Tree Deluxe Edition (requires permission to allow them sharing data with facebook and few other companies dunno why)
Nikoderiko
Tempest Rising
Forever Skies Romancing SaGa 2 Revenge of the Seven

IIRC Banquet for Fools is still in early access or something. Awowwowowowowowwed is old news.

It doesn't looks like there are too many games to talk about.

 

[ShaggyMoose]

Sounds SPECIAL for sure...

 

[Salem]

Hopefully, the flawed system is decent enough to make role-playing replayability worth it rather than just being cumbersome. I never did many flaws in the first game because it felt redundant, that went with the owhichverall gameplay experience.

 

[Cheesedragon117]

Flaw system in the first game was one of the worst designed systems I've ever seen in an RPG, mildly curious about how they will fix it in this one, though not enough to watch a video...

Seriously, who would take not being able to run anymore (in an open world game, no less) for one measly skill point?! Even for a dozen skill points, it wouldn't be worth it. Only good flaw was Robophobia, because it made you scream every time you initiated dialogue with your one robotic party member. One skill point for a chuckle is a decent trade.

Transcript:
No one used flaws in the first game, so we turned them into Fallout 1 traits, except you can take them mid-game. Except you could also do that in Fallout with Mutate perk. But enough about that, we're actually still looking for ways to bait players into actually taking flaws. One idea is having a flaw that forces you to take other flaws automatically. Maybe you'll pick that one by mistake or something? We'd be in the pink then.

Thank you for the summary that Infinitroon was too lazy to provide.

 

[Roguey]

Flaw system in the first game was one of the worst designed systems I've ever seen in an RPG, mildly curious about how they will fix it in this one, though not enough to watch a video...

Seriously, who would take not being able to run anymore (in an open world game, no less) for one measly skill point?! Even for a dozen skill points, it wouldn't be worth it. Only good flaw was Robophobia, because it made you scream every time you initiated dialogue with your one robotic party member. One skill point for a chuckle is a decent trade.

"I don't really care about balance" - Tim Cain

It's either this or Sawyer.

 

[Gahbreeil]

"I don't really care about balance" - Tim Cain

 

[luj1]

"I don't really care about balance" - Tim Cain

Idk if he really thinks that, but that's a chad opinion

Sawyer was never about balance btw but accessiblity aka people pleasing

 

[Cheesedragon117]

Flaw system in the first game was one of the worst designed systems I've ever seen in an RPG, mildly curious about how they will fix it in this one, though not enough to watch a video...

Seriously, who would take not being able to run anymore (in an open world game, no less) for one measly skill point?! Even for a dozen skill points, it wouldn't be worth it. Only good flaw was Robophobia, because it made you scream every time you initiated dialogue with your one robotic party member. One skill point for a chuckle is a decent trade.

"I don't really care about balance" - Tim Cain

It's either this or Sawyer.

What is Sawyer's approach? Too much balance?

Honestly, I think "game balance" was always overrated, is now a prize of highly questionable worth in most AAA Western games. There's no point in striving for some abstract ideal like that when the core of your game sucks ass anyways. Make something fun and original before you start waffling about "muh balance".

Balance is kind of beside the point here, just make the flaws interesting, for God's sake. How about this:

You got shot in the head too many times by laser weapons and now one of your eyes is shot out. Your FOV is decreased by 50%, but your aim-down-sights accuracy and V.A.T.S effectiveness are greatly increased, since all your eye-power is being channelled into one eye. Yes, I know losing an eye in real life tends to make your aim worse, but it's a video game.

There, I just made a better flaw than all the flaws in TOW1. Large trade off, large reward, and actually changes the way you play.

 

[Roguey]

Honestly, I think "game balance" was always overrated, is now a prize of highly questionable worth in most AAA Western games. There's no point in striving for some abstract ideal like that when the core of your game sucks ass anyways. Make something fun and original before you start waffling about " muh balance".

Tuning something to be worthwhile is game balancing. Hearing Cain talk about the kinds of characters he makes, he's not a power gamer, he just chooses options that fit a concept he's into.