The Outer Worlds 2 - the Earth Directorate strikes back - coming 2025

[Atlantico]

The entire game is immature and grating. Written for and by people who have no experience in life.

Narrative Design Lead Leonard Boyarsky

Fallout the Fluke.

I agree, it was a fluke - most masterpieces are. The people making them scrambling, trying to make the best out of a bad situation, being young and ignorant enough to know making waves and taking chances may come back and bite you in the ass when you least expect it and yet being smart enough to realize you don't want to reinvent the wheel.

Old people lack most of those ingredients, they're experienced enough to avoid taking chances and making waves and arrogant enough to think that their take on creating the wheel will introduce something important and profound.

 

[luj1]

It just so happens that you and they diverged in what you like.

What an excuse for every talentless hack.

Well he is not wrong

I like quality art design, good systems, deep combat and story. None of which are present in OW

So yeah we like different things

 

[luj1]

I agree, it was a fluke - most masterpieces are.

Yeah the fluke studio that followed with Fallout 2 and Planescape: Torment, back-to-back, genre-defining flukes. Fluke after fluke, apparently, if you listen to some deranged prostitute

Ironically a studio whose best games were Bioware and Bethesda hand-me-downs, is totally not the fakest fluke studio ever

 

[Spukrian]

I watched these IGN "first looks" and what they talk about sounds good... on paper. I mean, more/better perks, positive/negative traits, reworked flaws, reworked skills, more options for stealth players etc sounds like it's awesome... or rather would be awesome if they can pull it off.

 

[Atlantico]

I agree, it was a fluke - most masterpieces are.

Yeah the fluke studio that followed with Fallout 2 and Planescape: Torment, back-to-back, genre-defining flukes. Fluke after fluke, apparently, if you listen to some deranged prostitute

Ironically a studio whose best games were Bioware and Bethesda hand-me-downs, is totally not the fakest fluke studio ever

I'm not sure what you mean, what Bethesda hand-me-down did Interplay get?

Anyway, yes all masterpieces in art are flukes by their very nature. They cannot be designed, they cannot be made to order. It's a roll of the dice and if you highroll and the planetary alignment is just right, you might get something special made. Being a fluke is not a bad thing.

No studio can demand, design, and deliver a masterpiece by order. But they can increase their odds of creating a masterpiece. Interplay was good at that.

 

[Sweeper]

my rebellion was not being the wild troublemaker he was

Sounds pretty gay, ngl.

 

[Quillon]

Two lead developers on The Outer Worlds 2 lead you through an overview of the weapons in your sci-fi arsenal in Obsidian's upcoming first-person RPG sequel, including the Popup Gun, the Big Bang, the Bullet Blender, the Plasma Pistol, the Planet Killer, weapon mods, melee weapons, and stealth tools.

one good thing I'll say about the game is that it looks/feels more different than TOW1 than Avoid does

 

[KVVRR]

Two lead developers from The Outer Worlds 2 discuss – and show, via new gameplay – the new and improved Flaws system in Obsidian's RPG sequel. Say hello to the Sungazer and Foot-in-Mouth Flaws, and learn about how Flaws work this time around.

I like that they're actually improving on the flaws system from the last game but they've only gone halfway imo. They've made them actually somewhat engaging rather than just mindless number changes from how it was in the first game, but the rewards still seem to be number changes. These games are piss easy, you really don't need those. I get not making them obligatory if you play X way because that could get really annoying unintentionally, but them stopping the game in it's tracks, popping up a giant sign that basically spells out what the joke is for the flaw in detail is gonna get both kinda annoying and it might just make players not choose it. Sure it SOUNDS funny to have a timer on your dialogue system, and I bet if prompted unto you it would be, but would most players actively choose something like that? I'm guessing not, which is a problem the old system also had. Seems like they're aware of the problem since they put in a flaw that makes it so you HAVE to take flaws, but people just aren't gonna choose that one either.

Also 30 might not be enough depending on how long the game is. We'll see.

 

[Hammer Of The Heretics]

Even if, for the sake of argument, we stipulate that the proposed design changes are good, I no longer trust Obsidian to execute successfully. A good design implemented by incompetent developers will still yield a poor game.

 

[Zombra]

Even if, for the sake of argument, we stipulate that the proposed design changes are good, I no longer trust Obsidian to execute successfully. A good design implemented by incompetent developers will still yield a poor game.

Strongly agree BUT it is heartening to see some forward thinking design decisions at all.

 

[Child of Malkav]

 

[Quillon]

too much focus on combat with these vids, what about NPC hubs and shit? new ship, new player character? obsidian's most unappealing cNPCs streak? where in the galaxy the game will be? also where is leonard already

 

[Infinitron]

also where is leonard already

We talked to The Outer Worlds 2 creative director (and original creator of Fallout) Leonard Boyarsky and game director Brandon Adler about how Obsidian's own classic Fallout: New Vegas influenced the design of The Outer Worlds 2, and how this sequel improves upon the first game.

 

[Yosharian]

 

[Quillon]

god dammit leo; gonna have to finish this one now to know for myself if its really a game worth playing, unlike Avoid

 

[Zombra]

also where is leonard already

We talked to The Outer Worlds 2 creative director (and original creator of Fallout) Leonard Boyarsky and game director Brandon Adler about how Obsidian's own classic Fallout: New Vegas influenced the design of The Outer Worlds 2, and how this sequel improves upon the first game.

Is there a tl;dw on this? Any more actual interesting design points?

 

[Roguey]

Is there a tl;dw on this? Any more actual interesting design points?

Leonard says all the anti-corporation stuff is dropped; other colonies are run in different ways. They're still intent on including loads of humor and examining power structures. He also claims there will be no commentary on current political issues under his watch, lib writers no doubt seething once again.

Says there will be greater emphasis on factions and long-term reactivity in comparison to the first one, trying to be more like New Vegas.

Something that's going to disappoint a lot of you: All possible options you can choose will be visible and greyed out in the dialogue menus allowing you to leave and fulfill those conditions to get the outcome you want. They really want the masses to know what all their options are at all times.

 

[Spukrian]

Something that's going to disappoint a lot of you: All possible options you can choose will be visible and greyed out in the dialogue menus allowing you to leave and fulfill those conditions to get the outcome you want. They really want the masses to know what all their options are at all times.

IIRC in the first one this is a setting that you could disable? Guess I'll have to check...

EDIT: THere's a "Show dialogue skill checks" which can be set to Always, Only When Close or Never. Almost but not quite what I was thinking.

 

[Sweeper]

I ain't no learned man, ain't got no readin' knowledge from no fancy book learnin', but from what I can gather attributes are completely removed in Outer Worlds 2.
You know what? Good for Obsidian. RPGs are dead anyway.

 

[Diggfinger]

Is there a tl;dw on this? Any more actual interesting design points?

Leonard says all the anti-corporation stuff is dropped; other colonies are run in different ways. They're still intent on including loads of humor and examining power structures. He also claims there will be no commentary on current political issues under his watch, lib writers no doubt seething once again.

Says there will be greater emphasis on factions and long-term reactivity in comparison to the first one, trying to be more like New Vegas.

Something that's going to disappoint a lot of you: All possible options you can choose will be visible and greyed out in the dialogue menus allowing you to leave and fulfill those conditions to get the outcome you want. They really want the masses to know what all their options are at all times.

Seems like the sequel will be way better than the first game

 

[toro]

I will have to play this cause it might be Leonard's last game.

 

[KVVRR]

Leonard says all the anti-corporation stuff is dropped; other colonies are run in different ways.

holy shit this game might actually have a chance

Something that's going to disappoint a lot of you: All possible options you can choose will be visible and greyed out in the dialogue menus allowing you to leave and fulfill those conditions to get the outcome you want. They really want the masses to know what all their options are at all times.

nevermind

 

[Sweeper]

Seems like the sequel will be way better than the first game

That's the thing, the first game was so bad the only trajectory the sequel has left is incline.

 

[Yosharian]

"There'll be no current year political content this time, for real!"

 

[RepHope]

"There'll be no current year political content this time, for real!"

He didn’t say that. Zero chance his shitlib writers don’t shove trannies or fags into this since it took an actual fag in Cain to stop them from going full BioWare with the companions last time. But since Obsidian now actually is owned by an incompetent evil megacorp run by Pajeets and girl bosses, ol’ Leonard probably didn’t want to bite the hand that feeds him.