The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

[POOPERSCOOPER]

I was actually thinking of buying a PS5 just for Gran Turismo 7 and was looking for other stuff to justify a purchase. Is there any exclusive ps5 games that are worth it?

I did that same thing about a year and a half ago, because I have a wheel and wanted to play GT7. Just don't do it man, you'll play for a while, then get fed up with the game, and your PS5 will just collect dust. I sold mine for almost the same price I got it, minus the price of the game. It's just not worth it. If you have a remotely good PC, just play Assetto Corsa or AC Competizione with a wheel, there's so many mods that you'll never get bored with it.

Is AC playable with a controller? I kind of want to try a racing game to see if I enjoy it. I bought Forza Horizon 5 for the same reason and it feels kind of just like a GTA game. Thought about Forza Motorsport even though it had negative reviews on steam.

 

[ferratilis]

Is AC playable with a controller?

It is, with the right settings. But prepare for a learning curve, AC is a pure sim. If you have game pass, try Motorsport there, it sounds to me like you're looking for a simcade rather than a sim, and Motorsport is exactly that. Most of the negative reviews are about the lack of content and graphics, the driving model is still fun.

 

[Ezekiel]

Have the MOZA R5 on my wishlist, but I've been hesitant for years and years and years about getting a racing wheel, because the boredom with racers sets in so fast. I'm a decent driver, though.

 

[General Disarray]

The best things about the ps5 is the 4k blu ray drive, the ssd, and the controller. I have a flagship 55' samsung and a good soundbar and a highend 4k bluray player is almost the same price as the ps5, so it is really worth it. The 880gb pci 4 ssd ofcourse offloads my PC, I only have 3TB on the pc with two on pci 4 and one on pci 3. The controller is very good and makes a difference, I don't have a wheel so I really enjoyed playing Dirt 2.0 and Ea Sports WRC on it, feel good to drive.

Games otherwise that I played on it are, Death Stranding ( the upgrade version ), ff15, Ace Combat 7 ( but with HOTAS ), Red Squadron, The Ascent ( fun cyberpunk twin stick shooter ), Demoun souls, Jedi fallen order. Planning on playing DS2. In general third person games that don't need mods and require around a 100gb disk space get offloaded to the ps5.

 

[Salem]

The best things about the ps5 is the 4k blu ray drive, the ssd, and the controller. I have a flagship 55' samsung and a good soundbar and a highend 4k bluray player is almost the same price as the ps5, so it is really worth it. The 880gb pci 4 ssd ofcourse offloads my PC, I only have 3TB on the pc with two on pci 4 and one on pci 3. The controller is very good and makes a difference, I don't have a wheel so I really enjoyed playing Dirt 2.0 and Ea Sports WRC on it, feel good to drive.

Games otherwise that I played on it are, Death Stranding ( the upgrade version ), ff15, Ace Combat 7 ( but with HOTAS ), Red Squadron, The Ascent ( fun cyberpunk twin stick shooter ), Demoun souls, Jedi fallen order. Planning on playing DS2. In general third person games that don't need mods and require around a 100gb disk space get offloaded to the ps5.

The best combo honestly is PS5, Switch 2, and PC for xbox/steam/emulation side.

The ultimate blend of all things. I was tempted to get a PS5 pro but going to wait for the PS6 instead. I'll be happy with GTA6 as base line on this before double dipping later. Plus I enjoy it as a media box as well.

 

[DemonKing]

I was actually thinking of buying a PS5 just for Gran Turismo 7 and was looking for other stuff to justify a purchase. Is there any exclusive ps5 games that are worth it?

Almost every first party PS game is coming to PC now at some stage, so not really unless you have to play at launch.

Only Demon Souls remake hasn't crossed over that I can think of.

Also Bloodborne (PS4 game) never made it to PC I guess.

 

[toro]

Also Bloodborne (PS4 game) never made it to PC I guess.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bloodborne..._by_step_full_guide_to_play_bloodborne_on_pc/

 

[911 Jumper]

Sony considers PS5 price hikes to cover Trump’s tariffs / The company is also open to moving PlayStation manufacturing to the United States

Sony just announced its financial forecast for the next year, and it’s expecting to be impacted by tariffs to the tune of 100 billion yen (about $680 million). To compensate, the company says it’s considering options including moving manufacturing to the US and increasing prices for consumers.

Speaking to investors during the company’s earnings call, Sony CFO Lin Tao confirmed that the company is considering “passing on” the price of tariffs to consumers in order to mitigate the impact on its bottom line. Tao didn’t mention the PS5 by name though, and it’s possible that Sony could try to protect pricing on its console through increases elsewhere in its electronics business. Sony has already increased the price of the PS5 this year, but only in the UK, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand.

 

[911 Jumper]

PS5 shipments top 77.8 million 2.8 million units shipped during the three months ended March 31, 2025.

PlayStation 5 has shipped 77.8 million units worldwide, Sony announced in its financial results for the three months ended March 31, 2025.

A total of 2.8 million PlayStation 5 units were shipped during the three months ended March 31, 2025, which is down 1.7 million from the same period the previous fiscal year.

Here are a couple of additional statistics:

There are 124 million monthly active users on PlayStation Network as of March 31, 2025, which is up six million from the 118 million active users during the same period the previous fiscal year.
PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4 software combined sold 76.1 million units during the three months ended March 31, 2025, which is up 3.5 million from the 72.6 million software sold during the same period the previous fiscal year. 5.9 million units were first-party titles, which is down 6.4 million from the 12.3 million units sold during the same period the previous fiscal year. 80 percent of software sales were full game software digital downloads, which is up three percent from the same period the previous fiscal year.

Sony CFO Lin Tao says they have 3 months worth of stockpiled PS5 inventory in the US and outlined further steps they are taking to combat US tariffs! #PS5

- Stockpiling strategic inventory in the US
- Adjusting product shipment allocations on a global basis
- Raising market prices on certain products with an eye on the market situation

She also stated that they are diversifying the PS5 supply chain, with the PS5 now being manufactured in 4 different countries (China of which has highest ratio)

 

[Tehdagah]

"We need to increase the price of everything because, uh... market conditions!"

 

[spookyheart]

Years later still to this day never have or will own a ps5 as its honestly pointless considering the lack of games and well im more so content anyways with retrogaming so theres zero fucking point in me getting one.

 

[911 Jumper]

She's gone


...And the dollar sign has been dropped.

 

[Azdul]

A hardware price hike is insane. The Series X/S systems are vastly underperforming even in comparison to the shit show that was the Xbox One, and Microsoft’s big brain idea is to raise the price. If Microsoft was smart they’d basically be giving their systems away with multi year Xbox Game Pass plans like a phone deal. It’s moronic on Microsoft’s part that they’re seemingly doing everything they can not to get their systems in the hands of more people given they make most of their Xbox money on subscription fees. Well, now it’s subscription fees and Call of Duty.

Why should they care ? The 5 years old hardware is not getting any younger. And they are still selling it at loss.

Physical Xbox console is just an insurance against getting really bad deal from Valve or Sony. And probably one of the last console hardware generations.

Even Nintendo is a software company nowadays. Their hardware is slow, expensive and no one is going to buy it to play third-party games.

As for 5 years GamePass deal - they are better off bundling it with TV or notebook made by someone else, saving on hardware and marketing costs.

 

[Konjad]

The best things about the ps5 is the 4k blu ray drive, the ssd, and the controller. I have a flagship 55' samsung and a good soundbar and a highend 4k bluray player is almost the same price as the ps5, so it is really worth it.

Blu ray drives are piss cheap on a PC, I've got one for about 25€, but since Intel removed 4k blu-ray support in 12th gen and later, you are probably right. Unless you have 8th to 11th gen Intel CPU.

Why should they care ? The 5 years old hardware is not getting any younger. And they are still selling it at loss.

Physical Xbox console is just an insurance against getting really bad deal from Valve or Sony. And probably one of the last console hardware generations.

Even Nintendo is a software company nowadays. Their hardware is slow, expensive and no one is going to buy it to play third-party games.

As for 5 years GamePass deal - they are better off bundling it with TV or notebook made by someone else, saving on hardware and marketing costs.

Both Sony and Microsoft already announced next consoles (PS6 and Xbox whatever) for 2027 already, so it seems you're wrong.

 

[General Disarray]

The best things about the ps5 is the 4k blu ray drive, the ssd, and the controller. I have a flagship 55' samsung and a good soundbar and a highend 4k bluray player is almost the same price as the ps5, so it is really worth it.

Blu ray drives are piss cheap on a PC, I've got one for about 25€, but since Intel removed 4k blu-ray support in 12th gen and later, you are probably right. Unless you have 8th to 11th gen Intel CPU.

Why should they care ? The 5 years old hardware is not getting any younger. And they are still selling it at loss.

Physical Xbox console is just an insurance against getting really bad deal from Valve or Sony. And probably one of the last console hardware generations.

Even Nintendo is a software company nowadays. Their hardware is slow, expensive and no one is going to buy it to play third-party games.

As for 5 years GamePass deal - they are better off bundling it with TV or notebook made by someone else, saving on hardware and marketing costs.

Both Sony and Microsoft already announced next consoles (PS6 and Xbox whatever) for 2027 already, so it seems you're wrong.

Well you are actually paying for the decoding hardware/software of the player. And for the supported formats and outputs as well ofcourse. Normal 4k bluray diskreader on a PC don't play the movie, you need additional software.

The thing that confuses people is that they don't realise 4k bluray is still a compressed format, the raw movie would be several terabytes in size, while a 4k is around 87-116gb. So the decoding quality of the player dictates a lot of things such as colour accuracy, near black / shadow detail resolution, banding, specular highlights and fine detail. Because these are in fact compressed, so with a cheap 4k player you could actually miss a lot of detail in the movie because it has to cheap hardware and software to decode it properly. This is why you would buy a high end 4k player like a Panasonic DP-UB820EB that goes for around 550$ where I live. Now that almost the same price as a base ps5. And the ps5 4k decoder has performed well compared to these 4k players. That's what I mean.

 

[Konjad]

Well you are actually paying for the decoding hardware/software of the player. And for the supported formats and outputs as well ofcourse. Normal 4k bluray diskreader on a PC don't play the movie, you need additional software.

Which is VLC player and then there is a blu-ray driver package, so you download two files, install them and that's it. Maybe you need to update the blu ray package once in a while to support new movies. All free and easy though.

The thing that confuses people is that they don't realise 4k bluray is still a compressed format, the raw movie would be several terabytes in size, while a 4k is around 87-116gb. So the decoding quality of the player dictates a lot of things such as colour accuracy, near black / shadow detail resolution, banding, specular highlights and fine detail. Because these are in fact compressed, so with a cheap 4k player you could actually miss a lot of detail in the movie because it has to cheap hardware and software to decode it properly. This is why you would buy a high end 4k player like a Panasonic DP-UB820EB that goes for around 550$ where I live. Now that almost the same price as a base ps5. And the ps5 4k decoder has performed well compared to these 4k players. That's what I mean.

Alright, I don't know much about blu-rays in this regard, I rarely watch blu-ray movies, and when I do I just use my PC drive and monitor, so I'll trust you on this.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

A hardware price hike is insane. The Series X/S systems are vastly underperforming even in comparison to the shit show that was the Xbox One, and Microsoft’s big brain idea is to raise the price. If Microsoft was smart they’d basically be giving their systems away with multi year Xbox Game Pass plans like a phone deal. It’s moronic on Microsoft’s part that they’re seemingly doing everything they can not to get their systems in the hands of more people given they make most of their Xbox money on subscription fees. Well, now it’s subscription fees and Call of Duty.

Why should they care ? The 5 years old hardware is not getting any younger. And they are still selling it at loss.

Physical Xbox console is just an insurance against getting really bad deal from Valve or Sony. And probably one of the last console hardware generations.

Even Nintendo is a software company nowadays. Their hardware is slow, expensive and no one is going to buy it to play third-party games.

As for 5 years GamePass deal - they are better off bundling it with TV or notebook made by someone else, saving on hardware and marketing costs.

Because their Xbox business is built around getting people to buy a monthly Xbox Game Pass subscription, and they need to still sell their consoles to get people buying the most expensive version of Game Pass. There will come a day when Xbox Game Pass is on everything just like Netflix and every other movie streaming service, but that day isn’t here yet, so disincentivizing people from getting their Xbox Game Pass machine is a fucking stupid move.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

The consoles are nice for the streaming movie services too. All that streaming stuff when watched on smart televisions, blu-ray players, and some dedicated streaming device have extra load times now that just do not exist when streaming on a console.

 

[ArchAngel]

The consoles are nice for the streaming movie services too. All that streaming stuff when watched on smart televisions, blu-ray players, and some dedicated streaming device have extra load times now that just do not exist when streaming on a console.

Yea it is a nice entertainment platform. Before I had Xbox connected to TV I would have to stream movies from my PC to Chromecast and now I can just do it using VLC player on Xbox that finds my shares on PC and just plays whatever without much problems. I also tried Netflix app on it and it works well. Also found some football (not eggball that USA plays) pirate streaming app for Xbox on its Store (no idea how that was allowed) and it also worked well

 

[Ezekiel]

The best things about the ps5 is the 4k blu ray drive, the ssd, and the controller. I have a flagship 55' samsung and a good soundbar and a highend 4k bluray player is almost the same price as the ps5, so it is really worth it.

Blu ray drives are piss cheap on a PC, I've got one for about 25€, but since Intel removed 4k blu-ray support in 12th gen and later, you are probably right. Unless you have 8th to 11th gen Intel CPU.

Why should they care ? The 5 years old hardware is not getting any younger. And they are still selling it at loss.

Physical Xbox console is just an insurance against getting really bad deal from Valve or Sony. And probably one of the last console hardware generations.

Even Nintendo is a software company nowadays. Their hardware is slow, expensive and no one is going to buy it to play third-party games.

As for 5 years GamePass deal - they are better off bundling it with TV or notebook made by someone else, saving on hardware and marketing costs.

Both Sony and Microsoft already announced next consoles (PS6 and Xbox whatever) for 2027 already, so it seems you're wrong.

Well you are actually paying for the decoding hardware/software of the player. And for the supported formats and outputs as well ofcourse. Normal 4k bluray diskreader on a PC don't play the movie, you need additional software.

The thing that confuses people is that they don't realise 4k bluray is still a compressed format, the raw movie would be several terabytes in size, while a 4k is around 87-116gb. So the decoding quality of the player dictates a lot of things such as colour accuracy, near black / shadow detail resolution, banding, specular highlights and fine detail. Because these are in fact compressed, so with a cheap 4k player you could actually miss a lot of detail in the movie because it has to cheap hardware and software to decode it properly. This is why you would buy a high end 4k player like a Panasonic DP-UB820EB that goes for around 550$ where I live. Now that almost the same price as a base ps5. And the ps5 4k decoder has performed well compared to these 4k players. That's what I mean.

Firstly, a UHD maxes out at 100 GB, not 116.

Secondly, you don't need a 4K reader to rip UHD discs. You flash a Blu-ray reader. Playing UHD discs on a PC is tedious because of the protection. Better to play the Matroska (MKV) rip. MakeMKV is free, although you can purchase a license so that you're not locked out while waiting for some updates.

MadVR is a good free HDR codec. Connect the PC to your TV and you are done. I only use a Zidoo Z9X 8K because Windows does not support Dolby Vision, but not all UHD discs have DV (or any HDR) and not all look significantly better with it. The HDR10 underneath the DV layer is often nearly as good.

 

[Azdul]

Why should they care ? The 5 years old hardware is not getting any younger. And they are still selling it at loss.

Physical Xbox console is just an insurance against getting really bad deal from Valve or Sony. And probably one of the last console hardware generations.

Even Nintendo is a software company nowadays. Their hardware is slow, expensive and no one is going to buy it to play third-party games.

As for 5 years GamePass deal - they are better off bundling it with TV or notebook made by someone else, saving on hardware and marketing costs.

Both Sony and Microsoft already announced next consoles (PS6 and Xbox whatever) for 2027 already, so it seems you're wrong.

In 2025 you can buy Atari 400 mini made by Atari corporation.

So you'll be able to buy new Xbox in 2027 and another one in 2037. If you prefer different case design for the same off the shelf parts, there will be also "PlayStation 7'.

Exactly the same games will run on both. And also on Lenovo Legion and Asus Whatever. In best case scenario you will get exclusive Spiderman (tm) skin DLC (29.99 $).

 

[General Disarray]

The best things about the ps5 is the 4k blu ray drive, the ssd, and the controller. I have a flagship 55' samsung and a good soundbar and a highend 4k bluray player is almost the same price as the ps5, so it is really worth it.

Blu ray drives are piss cheap on a PC, I've got one for about 25€, but since Intel removed 4k blu-ray support in 12th gen and later, you are probably right. Unless you have 8th to 11th gen Intel CPU.

Why should they care ? The 5 years old hardware is not getting any younger. And they are still selling it at loss.

Physical Xbox console is just an insurance against getting really bad deal from Valve or Sony. And probably one of the last console hardware generations.

Even Nintendo is a software company nowadays. Their hardware is slow, expensive and no one is going to buy it to play third-party games.

As for 5 years GamePass deal - they are better off bundling it with TV or notebook made by someone else, saving on hardware and marketing costs.

Both Sony and Microsoft already announced next consoles (PS6 and Xbox whatever) for 2027 already, so it seems you're wrong.

Well you are actually paying for the decoding hardware/software of the player. And for the supported formats and outputs as well ofcourse. Normal 4k bluray diskreader on a PC don't play the movie, you need additional software.

The thing that confuses people is that they don't realise 4k bluray is still a compressed format, the raw movie would be several terabytes in size, while a 4k is around 87-116gb. So the decoding quality of the player dictates a lot of things such as colour accuracy, near black / shadow detail resolution, banding, specular highlights and fine detail. Because these are in fact compressed, so with a cheap 4k player you could actually miss a lot of detail in the movie because it has to cheap hardware and software to decode it properly. This is why you would buy a high end 4k player like a Panasonic DP-UB820EB that goes for around 550$ where I live. Now that almost the same price as a base ps5. And the ps5 4k decoder has performed well compared to these 4k players. That's what I mean.

Firstly, a UHD maxes out at 100 GB, not 116.

Secondly, you don't need a 4K reader to rip UHD discs. You flash a Blu-ray reader. Playing UHD discs on a PC is tedious because of the protection. Better to play the Matroska (MKV) rip. MakeMKV is free, although you can purchase a license so that you're not locked out while waiting for some updates.

MadVR is a good free HDR codec. Connect the PC to your TV and you are done. I only use a Zidoo Z9X 8K because Windows does not support Dolby Vision, but not all UHD discs have DV (or any HDR) and not all look significantly better with it. The HDR10 underneath the DV layer is often nearly as good.

Yeah sure, I couldn't be bothered at the time to lookup the exact amount.

I don't want to rip it. I don't have the space. I only have 1TB pci 3 m2 ssd and 2TB pci 4 m2 ssd. I can't be bothered to install slow drives for ripped 4k hdr movies. I just want to play the physical 4k hdr movie and save storage space.

Yeah MadVR is good. I use it with mpc with some bundle installer for the occasional movie if its a movie I'm curious about and just want to play once. But it's a good suggestion. I have a samsung Q90T 55'' so no Dolby Vision anyways for me. Yeah I think the HDR10 looks well enough. But I prefer to play from disc in the ps5.

I actually use my Samsung as my main screen sitting on the couch 2meters away so I have HDR on almost all the time for games, bought a 7900 xtx sapphire with a ryzen 7 5700x3d this winter to get 4k hdr 120fps with actual hdmi 2.1 standard, only had 2.0b on my old 5600xt sapphire and had to downgrade to 4:2:0 I think to get 120fps in sdr on it. Can actually push cyberpunk 2077 up to 85fps indoors on native.

 

[Gerrard]

She's gone

 

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

What's the economical justification for Doom:DC Blu-Ray to include only 85 MB of data if you need to produce that disc anyway? Disc may by used as DRM - ok, there is a need to download some updates - right but WHY they are not including ANY data except for installer and left some much space empty? WTF?

 

[Abu Antar]

What's the economical justification for Doom:DC Blu-Ray to include only 85 MB of data if you need to produce that disc anyway? Disc may by used as DRM - ok, there is a need to download some updates - right but WHY they are not including ANY data except for installer and left some much space empty? WTF?

Microsoft are doing everything in its power to kill physical media.