The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

[TemplarGR]

I would prefer to upgrade my gaming PC to some sweet sweet Ryzen 5XXX series cpu and a prestigious Navi 2 gpu instead. Consoles are for fags.

 

[Zer0wing]

5600X+RX 6800 for the ultimate 144hz 1440p nvidiot incel destroyer rig.

 

[Hobo Elf]

My question is why is it getting so much attention this time? I think it's 'cause there ain't no real next gen games as said above.

There were rumors floating that the PS5 was gonna be hugely backwards comp. Think Sony even filed a patent for a device that played all/most previous gen games, which was responsible for these rumors. A network of bloggers latched on to this non-story and spent months building up a false expectation that left people disappointed.

 

[TemplarGR]

5600X+RX 6800 for the ultimate 144hz 1440p nvidiot incel destroyer rig.

That's probably my next upgrade after many years. Plus 32GB of fast RAM and a 2Terra fast SSD and we are in business.

 

[snoek]

No impressive launch lineup for this generation.
Just a bunch of recycled and upscaled shit.

 

[Hobo Elf]

https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-series-x-video-seems-to-show-smoke-rising-from-the-vents/


https://www.reddit.com/r/xbox/comments/js32qa/my_xbox_series_x_just_started_smoking/

Just been woken up (6am UK) to a sizzling sound.
Thought to myself what the hell is that?
Turns out my brand new Xbox Series X is melting, smoke everywhere coming out the vent at the top.

Stay safe my gamer friends.

 

[TemplarGR]

https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-series-x-video-seems-to-show-smoke-rising-from-the-vents/


https://www.reddit.com/r/xbox/comments/js32qa/my_xbox_series_x_just_started_smoking/



Stay safe my gamer friends.

While this video could be a fake, it seems natural to me for the new consoles to have overheating issues. They are tiny relative to the hardware they are packing. For the same hardware on PC you need a huge case, lots of fans everywhere, etc. And it is not a single SoC....

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Why is there smoke coming out of your Xbox Seymour?

Oh... That isn't smoke. It's Steam! From the Steam integration we're adding!

 

[Cyberarmy]

It's new Cloud tech.

 

[Great Deceiver]

I would prefer to upgrade my gaming PC to some sweet sweet Ryzen 5XXX series cpu and a prestigious Navi 2 gpu instead. Consoles are for fags.

Consoles are indeed for fags, but this comparison makes no sense. You'd spend 50% more than the price of a PS5 to buy just the videocard (RX6800/RTX3080 - IF you could even find one), or the price of a PS5 to get a midrange card (RX6700/RTX3070).

 

[TemplarGR]

Consoles are indeed for fags, but this comparison makes no sense. You'd spend 50% more than the price of a PS5 to buy just the videocard.

Yes, but i would get real 4K (and not checkerboard shit), more frames per second, better quality settings, mods, plus piracy. It's a win!

 

[Alienman]

Another quality Xbox product. This is gonna get tasty.

 

[Ebonsword]

What kind of weird setup does this guy have that he needs ten different cables running up to the ceiling?

 

[Tehdagah]

Switch 2 when

 

[TemplarGR]

Switch 2 when

What, you need more garbage shovelware jrpg with anime waifus?

 

[Toffeli]

Some of those smoky consoles you might be seeing are just retards playing with vaping liquids.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Because there's no excuse to not have it. It's effectively the same architecture as before.

My question is why is it getting so much attention this time? I think it's 'cause there ain't no real next gen games as said above.

It's something Phil Spencer has been working on since he took over xbox, we're finally seeing it come to full fruition now.

It was a selling point of the original 60gb ps3, before they removed the EE chip to lower cost of the machine. As for the One and PS4, I think people were just desperate for new machines at that point, the PS360 era was absurdly long.

 

[DalekFlay]

Digital Foundry's first Series X/PS5 comparison video is out with Devil May Cry and they pretty much perform the same. Though it's interesting how one will be a few percent higher here and the other a few percent higher there. They speculate memory bandwidth differences.

Also worth noting the ray tracing mode has to be at 1080p with lower res reflections to maintain 60fps.

 

[sullynathan]

 

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

 

[Caim]

That'd be one hell of peripheral to add to a controller.

 

[Markman]

Wierd none of you posted xbox new biggest feature yet. Floating ping pong balls

 

[TemplarGR]

Also worth noting the ray tracing mode has to be at 1080p with lower res reflections to maintain 60fps.

Raytracing is garbage. It was pushed out too soon because Nshitia wanted a gimmick to push for more expensive gpus, and then AMD was forced to add it to the new consoles because the console makers didn't want their consoles to appear "low tech" compared to PC, for marketing reasons.

It is not clear pure raytracing, just used for a few effects, it does not make a large visual difference compared to simply using traditional techniques, and it destroys the performance so much that 4K is a pipedream even for very powerful modern gpus. What's the point? I don't see it becoming important until 10 years have passed.

Wierd none of you posted xbox new biggest feature yet. Floating ping pong balls

Wow, i have never seen those 2 compared externally. WTF? The new console looks like a desktop tower case with a grill on top. That's what you get for trying to push raytracing on consoles for no reason.

 

[tritosine2k]

Wierd none of you posted xbox new biggest feature yet. Floating ping pong balls

I kind of did:

(...) carpet hovercraft (...)

 

[SlamDunk]

The new console looks like a desktop tower case with a grill on top.

 

[DalekFlay]

Raytracing is garbage. It was pushed out too soon because Nshitia wanted a gimmick to push for more expensive gpus, and then AMD was forced to add it to the new consoles because the console makers didn't want their consoles to appear "low tech" compared to PC, for marketing reasons.

It is not clear pure raytracing, just used for a few effects, it does not make a large visual difference compared to simply using traditional techniques, and it destroys the performance so much that 4K is a pipedream even for very powerful modern gpus. What's the point? I don't see it becoming important until 10 years have passed.

I think global illumination is pretty cool, but I don't get the rampant orgasms over reflections at all. SSR has some quirks but looks fine overall when you're talking a 40% performance hit, and the reflections of ray tracing look kinda fake to me sometimes, too mirror-like for the surfaces they're on.

Either way though I'm more trying to ascertain where console ray tracing performance stacks up to PC so we kinda know what we're gonna need. If it requires 1080p with half-resolution ray tracing to do 60fps, then I'd say even RTX 2000 series owners are in decent shape to match console performance.