The Raven - new game by King Art (guys behind Book of Unwritten Tales)

[JarlFrank]

Looks incline.

 

[VonVentrue]

It sure does look pretty (3D visuals is something most adventure studios still tend to struggle with) and I'd describe the premise as... intriguing.
Looking forward to it, for sure - TBoUT's indisputable quality reinforces my optimism about The Raven somewhat.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

A division of Nordic Games

It's going to be a shitty shovelware.

 

[DalekFlay]

Sexy.

 

[kaizoku]

Looks interesting and ambitious.

But damn those episodes.
On the other hand, they would be probably taking a big risk by making and releasing it in a single sitting.

 

[VonVentrue]

RPS' "review of sorts" is out, and it's a pretty favourable one.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...master-thief-embargoed-dont-post/#more-160655

 

[Cyberarmy]

I've been playing this one, they got Agatha Christie mood right.
Loving it so far.

 

[Nope]

Loved it. Bit short at around 3 hours but fun and atmospheric with a great main character.
The $10 an episode feels about right given the length.

 

[Cyberarmy]

It is going to be 3 episodes right?

 

[Nope]

It is going to be 3 episodes right?

Yep, they're selling the first one bundled with a pre-order for the second and third for 22,49€.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Cool, thanks. Gonna get that bundle then. But I'll just wait them to release all episodes to play, I'm not a fan of cliffhanger endings.

 

[Nryn]

Took me 3 hours to finish, and I liked it. Well written, with good voice work, and a very likable main character. I found it nostalgic for an adventure game to take place (however fleetingly) on the Orient Express again. As long as the narrative does not implode in the remaining episodes, the game's worth a look for Adventure fans.

The best compliment I can give the game is that it put me in the mood to reread some of Agatha Christie's works. It really captured that mood.

Had some issues with movement that I hope is addressed in the remaining episodes.

 

[jfrisby]

Really enjoyed this, except for the sometimes clunky walk speed/animations/traversal (it's more of that 3D character, taking forever to turn around shit) and slowish-feeling room loads (during which you really notice the insanely chipper music). Slow paced, piles of mostly-required dialogue, logical (but easy) puzzles that mostly involve finding who to speak to next to advance things. -- but lots of respect for them keeping it as a slow/medium-paced Poirot story, it's got some of the better directed cut-scenes I've seen in awhile, and the game world felt coherent.

There appeared to be some miss-able puzzles, and dialogue, but I'm not sure they mattered in the end.

 

[Bobbles]

There are two miss-able puzzles right at the beginning:

Spoiler

retrieving the wallet tells you more about the background of the baroness or whatever she is and reveals the connection between the professor and the jewels. Collecting the prints and button from the professor's cabin can tip you off that the guy on the roof was probably wearing a gloved uniform (which is already strongly hinted at by the weird way you run into that faceless steward after leaving the professor's cabin). They put in a nice twist by giving the doctor gloves and allowing you to ask him about them, but I really doubt that he's the Raven.

However, there aren't any more after that. Miss-able dialogue is everywhere though.

The bad guy's identity is also really predictable if you've ever so much as seen an Agatha Christie movie. They really slather on the evidence with very little in the way of red herrings -- bit of an odd decision, but it didn't really hamper my enjoyment.

 

[Nope]

Second episode is out now. Feels like it has less content than the first one and simpler puzzles as well.
The parts where you play the thief/thug came across as little more than an excuse to reuse older locations.
Not bad but definitely worse than the first episode.

 

[Bubbles]

Not bad but definitely worse than the first episode.

No, it really is bad. Textbook cash-in with a story that was apparently slapped together after chapter one was already finished. Now we know why they didn't sell the episodes one by one.

 

[Nope]

Now we know why they didn't sell the episodes one by one.

Fair point. If the first episode had been more like the second I would not have recommended the game.

 

[JudasIscariot]

http://af.gog.com/game/the_raven_legacy_of_a_master_thief?as=1649904300

The Raven - Legacy of a Master Thief is now available (all three chapters) on GOG

Excuse me while I sprout new shoots

 

[Bubbles]

Let's see just how rushed and pointless The Raven's story can get!

 

[kaizoku]

Erica vs. Memoria vs. Raven

discuss!

from what I could read here none of them was able to deliver a good P&P. Did I read it incorrectly?

 

[Crooked Bee]

"P&P"?

Raven is shit, dunno what the fuss is/was about. Haven't played Erica. Memoria is very good atmosphere-wise but the puzzles are really really easy; still recommended though.

 

[Bubbles]

Memoria >>>>>>>>>>>>Erica>>>>>>Raven

 

[kaizoku]

P&P was a typo

meant P&C

 

[kaizoku]

Crooked Bee what's so bad about The Raven?

story? characters? puzzles? everything?

 

[Crooked Bee]

I only played the first part, but that was the one everyone apparently enjoyed so...

I thought the writing was dull, the characters uninteresting, and the puzzles extremely simplistic (I wouldn't even call them puzzles really). It also had a fair number of bugs and the general clunkiness characteristic of shovelware adventure games. I've honestly no clue why it received such positive reviews. Maybe I just didn't "get" it.