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The Sims 4 and Skyrim are the same game

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by new fucking guy, Jul 2, 2020.

  1. new fucking guy Learned Patron

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    Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    - virtually identical skill system
    - open world
    - theme park slant - in skyrim you're picking up guilds, in sims it's aspirations, you can mix them as you like and everything is accessable from the start
    - some ephasis on collectibles - in skyrim it's artifacts scattered in the world, in sims it's career rewards, in both cases these have little effect on the gameplay and exist just to give you something to do
    - dollhouse aspect - in skyrim it's emphasized by house dlc and mod support, which I consider to be a core element of TES games design
    - mod support!
     
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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire
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  3. Ibn Sina Learned

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    Sims 4 is the superior RPG.
     
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  4. DraQ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    ...and this is your brain on drugs.
     
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  5. Drakortha Learned

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    All games are the same now. IE: SHIT
     
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  6. Butter Arcane

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    The sims is superior on account of being party-based.
     
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  7. luj1 You're all shills

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    Skyrim is the worst turd I have played in my entire life (I played it for around 20 minutes). Chargen was so buggy and unresponsive because it was designed for a joypad that I spent 15 minutes on it and 5 minutes on actual playing. I noticed the game wasn't that pretty either. After we were attacked by the dragon, I ended up in these caves with a sword. There I am attacked by a Shelob-looking giant spider, whom I dispatched with 2 strikes of a weapon. Uh okay. I go outside then and notice the shadows everywhere are flickering which was annoying as hell. I wander for a while and am attacked by soldiers (?), I kill two of them with 1 stroke whatttt?? The end.
     
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  8. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Sims 4 doesn't have an open world, but you are generally right, yeah.
     
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    This just sounds like you have a shitty computer.
     
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  10. cursed Savant

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    Oh, come on now. Skyrim has a reputation as a buggy and unoptimised game even among its diehard fan base.
     
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    Well, duh? It was written by Bethesda.
     
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  12. taxalot I'm a spicy fellow. Patron

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    Both games are also mainly enjoyed by women.
     
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  13. new fucking guy Learned Patron

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    Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    That's what the thread is about really. Title is obviously a joke, but I honestly believe they share a lot of the appeal.
     
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  14. Assisted Living Godzilla Liturgist

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    I'm still a little surprised Elder Scrolls just hasn't taken skill leveling from The Sims. Like how you can just go to a workout bench or something in The Sims to raise whatever skill that affects. Given the way leveling works, having that kind of system seems like something that should have at least shown up by Oblivion. (Makes even less sense Skyrim didn't do it) Like, just having the ability to do something like telling your character to stand in place and practice swinging their sword around; and during that time you can fuck around with the game's speed so you don't have to sit there and watch that shit in real-time.

    The speechcraft wheel in Oblivion did feel like a really bad simple take on how speech works in The Sims...which I've always kind of thought would be an interesting way to do speech in a RPG since the abstract nature of it means you can infuse it with all kinds of stat related things, and could have different languages for the character to learn. The house stuff is also better in The Sims too. Given how much they play up that house stuff, and given The Sims came out at the beginning of 2000 (which I think would have been around when Morrowind started development) I'm a little surprised it wasn't until Fallout 4 (15 years later) that they actually let you build the house yourself.

    The Sims is a far better thought out series that Elder Scrolls could probably learn something from. The whole time management aspect of The Sims could very easily be overlaid onto Elder Scrolls and give it a focus the games never really had. I mean The Sims has a pretty great gameplay loop, you take that same gameplay loop and replace the "sending your Sim off to work to make money" part in The Sims with you going to some dungeon or fighting in the arena? That'd put the series focus on the stuff people actually seem to like most about the Elder Scrolls, (and just Bethesda Game Studios stuff in general) which is the side quest part of the games as opposed to the main story.
     
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  15. Ol' Willy Arcane Zionist Agent

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    So much Elder Scrolls experts here. Real men don't play this shit.
     
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  16. taxalot I'm a spicy fellow. Patron

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    Real men don't play video games.
     
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    This does not contradict my statement.
     
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  18. IDtenT Contact me for a good time Patron

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    It does however indict our existence.
     
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    Real men enjoy what they want and don’t care what some basement dwelling Internet autists think of them.
     
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  20. taxalot I'm a spicy fellow. Patron

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    That's exactly what someone with self image issues would say.
     
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    Self-image problems and animu userpics always go hand in hand.
     
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    You can pay the trainers. You can also attack training dummies to level relevant skills.

    The speechcraft wheel in Oblivion was the kind of idea that makes you want to see the author of it brutally murdered with a claw hammer.
     
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    That is why us Studs who play Skyrim get to fuck these women, while you homos get to be homo for MCA on the codex....
     
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