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The Valve and Steam Platform Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Morgoth, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. Spectacle Arcane Patron

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    If this thing is a paid mod then "paid mods" have been around since 2000 when Valve put Counter-Strike in a retail box.
     
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  2. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    For several years now (5+) you could buy 'stamps' in TF2 that amounted to little more than a tipping service for people who created popular community maps. This arrangement doesn't strike me as being too different.
     
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  3. DosBuster Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    CS:GO does this as well, you can purchase a token which gives you access to curated community mods.
     
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  4. sexbad? Arcane Patron

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    This has been around for a while. I have it, and it's nice, although I never bothered to finish it. It's a full, finished product, rather than a small addition or tweak like the Fallout 3 shenanigans. I've got no problem with developers going through Valve and using Portal 2 assets to make their own commercial game.
     
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  5. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  6. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    Wii for adults.
     
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  7. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    Some great games.
     
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  8. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    Thanks Steam greenlight.
     
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  9. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    VR HAS ARRIVED! 0 n0es I'm behind the times! I predict a lot of kids are going to grab their parents credit cards and order $500 VR rigs.
     
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  10. mutonizer Arcane Patron

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    <looks at his watch>
    Alright, I think it's about time we get an extinction event happening. Any meteorite about to arrive or maybe we still got some nuclear asshats roaming around? No? <sighs> Alright then, time to start learning bio chemistry then....
     
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  11. Drax Arcane

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    Or just, you know, relax.
     
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  12. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Heh, the Steam Spy guy got hired by Epic Games: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...lishing_operations_with_new_Berlin_office.php

     
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  13. Jigawatt Arcane

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  14. BlackAdderBG Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    Steam is fucked right now,randomly updates games.
     
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  15. Coyote Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    At first I thought they might be consolidating stuff like DirectX, XNA, etc. somewhere so you don't have to install them anew for every game that uses them. Downloaded ~30 of those 0-byte updates only to end up with a hard drive 3 gigs lighter, and it was all coming out of _CommonRedist folders.

    The second wave of updates appears to be putting it all back, though.
     
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  16. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Probably installing NSA things on all games :P
     
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  17. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Well, with Steam you gotta be happy, if they don't show you the library of a random user and download several 50GB popamole games.
     
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  18. Disgruntled Savant

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    Felt like shilling discussing my impressions on the Vive and all I found was an Oculus thread. Ill save you repeating the usual hype, but yes I did find it lived up to it.

    Coming in from the RPG perspective playing Abbots demo has me sold on a VR dungeon crawler. There is something wonderful about walking through a dark and murky stone building lit up by the light of your own torch and being able to peek up down and around in freeform. When everything is claustrophobic the resolution shortcomings dont come into play. Going through so many rpgs as any codexer, all the settings are tired. And yet here I am inside this creepy dark grassland, making my way down a cliffside staircase, opening the gates of an old keep with the intended sense of awe.

    Bows, swords, shields and magic are as natural as shown in demoes, its immediately apparent from the little ive played that a VR combat system is going to make 2d versions a joke once everyone implements it correctly.
    The stick waggle syndrome is nothing but a failure to properly translate speed, bounderies and impact by a developer. eg The minigolf game perfectly judges how hard you swing at a ball and the physics pass on naturally. Get that into swords swings and you can properly reflect if you should show a player cutting through or whiffing air cause the strike lacked the momentum to cause real damage. This is an area where id encourage devs to go against the grain and disconnect real position and virtual position. The virtual position of a failed strike should remain at the point of failure till the player learns he cant fuck around.

    Locomotion with teleports is not as lame as I thought itd be. Its more about adjusting the chaperone boundary and eeking out more space so once you do transition to somewhere of interest you can interact without distractions.

    My major headaches (in some cases literal) are the
    Setup time: Maybe its cause I have to leave the PC to play , but going back and forth with steamVR, adjusting the headset for optimal sight and fiddling with wires is a chore unless you have a dedicated room where you can leave everething lying around
    SteamVR reliability: SteamVR crashes or pops up some issue occasionally which requires taking off the headset and screwing around on the PC. Valve/HTC should fix it eventually but its obvious they didnt do it in time for launch.
    Tracking: tracking can be finicky and sometimes shaky cause of of some problem. Gradually migraine inducing. This one is probably my fault cause I havent mounted everything in optimal fashion being impatient since its my first day, when all is steady the experience is perfect

    Minor gripes
    You need a big fucking playspace. Its deceptive walking around the house thinking in terms of your body stood up straight with arms by the sides, but with arms out, a comfortable zone is actually tiny. Im probably going to buy extension cables just to reach a place where i can get 3m x 2.5m.
    Content, as everyone knows, its mostly short games and tech demoes right now although i have not come close to trying everything. Cockpit sims are always there in reserve but I really want a good meaty roomscale experience. We should get a few in the next month or two.
    Resolution, gets blurry in the distance and with text. Until this catches up, developers need to be smarter in how they show things.


    I think the overwhelming positivity I have for this thing is that im excited to try almost every game. Its like the slate has been wiped clean back to when I was a kid. Thankfully there are enough demoes to stop me burning my wallet buying the whole catalogue.
    Havent even started with the porn yet.
    :bounce:
     
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  19. BlackAdderBG Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    If you think Skyrim-like games are RPGs then VR is for you.There must be stats and simulation ,not larping and immershun.Darker times ahead if this trash gets off the ground.
     
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  20. sser Arcane Cuck Developer

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    Does anyone here even have the Steam Controller or one of the Machines? Nearly bought a the controller the other day. I like the idea of streaming games onto my laptop and then playing them on my T.V.
     
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  21. talan Learned

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    Steam streaming is a good idea but the execution isn't great (at least when I tried it about a year ago). I would get Windows error popping up at startup, wouldn't show the whole screen, audio wouldn't play, some games just didn't work. Some worked great, but it's not consistent like a console.

    If I were to try again, I'd just buy 10m cables for HDMI and a USB hub.
     
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  22. DosBuster Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    It works pretty well now, provided you have a fast internet connection.
     
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  23. Country_Gravy Arcane Patron

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    I have 2 steam controllers and the link. Eh...probably been better off with just an Xbox controller to play my shitty console ports I bought in sales past to play once I got a controller.

    It just proved to me what I already knew. Consoles = :decline:
     
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  24. talan Learned

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    That doesn't sound right. It would be your local wifi/Ethernet speeds if anything.
     
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  25. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    As expected, most played games among western RPG owners in the last 2 weeks is Fallout 4.

    For Fallout 4 owners, (other than Fallout 4 and CS:GO) it's Dark Souls 3.
     
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