The Valve and Steam Platform Discussion Thread

[Angthoron]

Steam Music: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steammusic

Man, that's like having WinAmp or AIMP, but for free!

So much wow.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

So I got into the Home Streaming Beta today, so if you bros happen to have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I've played around with it a bit, impressions thus far:

1. Setup is really easy, you basically log in to the same Steam account on two machines on the same local network, and it works automatically, barring any firewall shenanigans (had to remove Steam from Windows firewall exceptions and add it again on my laptop).

2. Hardware requirements for the guest machine are non-trivial at the moment, it seems. Tried streaming to a Lenovo laptop with a Sandy Bridge i5, and a MSI netbook with an E2-1800, and they both suffered from "slow decode" problems. Those are pretty weak machines, and Valve is supposedly in the process of messing with the encoding/decoding process, but it's something to keep in mind. At it's current state, streaming to some weakass ARM set top box would be impossible.

3. At a decent resolution and framerate (even 720p and 30 fps) it requires a pretty decent bitrate. During prime time, the interference from a zillion wireless networks around my flat knocks effective throughput down to around 16 Mbps, and not stable at all. Graphics-heavy games were basically unplayable in these conditions, although Terraria ran pretty decently. Drops in network throughput are extremely disruptive to the experience. I'll try it again in better conditions tomorrow morning.

4. The thing basically streams a viewport from the host desktop, and as such functions like any other streaming software. I could tab out of the game on my laptop and see the host desktop, with perfectly functional mouse controls. So it can be useful for shit other than games.

That's it, will update as I learn more.

 

[Metro]

I have a question... why would anyone do it?

 

[Caim]

I love how these asshole millionaires always ask for donations for their "charity works"
Dickheads..

Don't speak heresy against Emperor Gaben, dirty heretic!

 

[StaticSpine]

It's even worse because GabeN's a billionaire.

Gabe Newell
Net Worth
$1.15 B

http://www.forbes.com/profile/gabe-newell/

 

[Caim]

The B in GabeN stands for Billionaire.

 

[Ninjerk]

He looks like a goblin or gremlin or something I've seen in an 80s movie. The things that steal the unicorn's horn in Legend, maybe?

 

[Dexter]

Valve has finally uploaded their Steam Dev Days talks to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/SteamworksDev/videos

 

[Konjad]

Steam has some new community stuff:

 

[Cowboy Moment]

If they can do this, surely they can implement a similar thing for your game library? Categories being exclusive is annoying as hell, and it would be very helpful to be able to mark games as "Completed" for instance.

But eh, it's a start.

 

[Avellion]

According to steam, Morrowind and Kotor are turn based

 

[racofer]

Every game is turn based.

 

[Infinitron]

Some interesting recommended tags you got there bro.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

 

[Avellion]

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Now to sit down and wait as everything with stats gets tagged as RPG. Bioshock Infinite, best role playing game of my life

Some interesting recommended tags you got there bro.

 

[Dexter]

This is pretty sweet:

I remember being pissed about the poor genre representation/tags months back and suggesting it to be changed, I even brought up the IMDB keyword system:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2931118

They finally listened! Although they might have possibly made a mistake by letting randumb people tag stuff.

 

[Whiner]

The tags:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/252370/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/210550/

 

[Spectacle]

Let's all start applying the #Popamole tag to every game that isn't a Codex-approved RPG!

 

[Whiner]

You better hurry,because they will probably remove the feature:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/232430/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/15150/
I expect SJW shitstorm tomorrow.

 

[Dexter]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/224760/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/220440/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/25000/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/209160/

 

[Dokkalfar]

 

[Caim]

Wait what, Gone Home is 20 dorrah? The fuck? For a "dick around in a house" simulator with voiceovers telling the story of a woman who

Spoilered for those of you who want to spend 20 bucks on the game

left home after an argument with her parents because she's a lesbian and wanted to travel with her girlfriend?

I'd be upset, but then again if the creators manage to get people to fork over the dough for that story I applaud their business savvy.

 

[jcd]

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[Cowboy Moment]

Hipsters upset with their favourite games being accurately labeled, want Valve to step in and protect their fragile egos. Quelle surprise.