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Thief fan missions and campaigns

Morat

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The Codex really is becoming the TTLG refugee camp!

Welcome, DrK. I've not played Rocksbourg but I'll definitely give it a try based on all the positive things I've heard about it.
 

DrKubiac

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Brace yourself as the first 2 missions are rough. I can't help but cringe when I look at them now...
The third one and my other missions are much, much better.
 

Riskbreaker

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If ya want a criticism so much, then here ya go: placement of keys in first Rocksbourg made me quit not one, but two subsequent playthroughs until I finally decided to watch a YT let's play!

(I still liked the mission, loved how atmospheric it was and how environments felt almost stiffing at times, even tho said LP ruined certain surprise towards the end)
 

DrKubiac

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Haha it's not that I want criticism, I'm well aware of this problem and it's part of why I consider them rough.
 

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Yeah, the key placement was, to be frank, shit. But I like to put FMs into perspective, and there have been some that were much worse about this, so eh... :P

First two Rocksbourgs deserve a good 7/10 for me despite their problems. Played much better missions, but also played much worse (that were still enjoyable).

My first FM is probably going to suck too.
 

tannisroot

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Long time ttlg-er here. Thanks for all the laughs! The honest appraisals are great and contrary to one poster's suggestion that this is a hater thread, clearly the criticism here is written with an impassioned love for Thief and a desire to identify the best the game can offer.

It's threads like this that inject new blood into a stagnating community and revitalize interest in a 15+ year old game. I downloaded a slew of FMs thanks to Unkillable Cat's recommendations.

Looking forward to reading the future contributions to this thread!
 

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
5 minutes in, first door I could lockpick, already found a semi-secret dungeon in there. Creepy place. And I have to use a rope arrow in there.

10/10 typical skacky mission

EDIT:
I expected something to happen in there, but nothing did. That place was unnerving. Great job in the atmosphere department. I took the sword mentioned in one of the readables in the shop, and I thought something would happen... nothing happened. What's up with the frobbable skull at the beginning of the hallway where the sword is kept? Frobbed it, didn't do anything. skacky?
 
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Unkillable Cat

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Two questions:

The burgomeister's place, one of the steps in his stairwell uses a different texture than the others. Intentional?

Did you tamper with the AI? THEY CAN SEE ME IN THE DARK.
 

skacky

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1. No, that's not intentional. I have no idea why this one has a different texture. Not gonna bother reuploading the FM for that though.
2. Which ones? Some of them have slightly better vision than average but they shouldn't see you in the dark, especially if you are fully darkened. If by that you mean they see you when they bump into you, it means the shadow you're in isn't deep enough.
 
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JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I'm loving the exploration in this one, a lot of verticality again. Another question about a place that confuses me:
What is it with that weird room with three levers that trigger traps? I found the switch behind an archery target in the room before it, but that didn't affect the traps. There's also one of these camera-things on the roof there, but it doesn't seem to do anything as it's too far up to see me. It's between the places where the diamond and the magic chalice objectives can be found.
 

skacky

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The switch behind the target deactivates the crossbow trap in the next room.
Look around carefully in the three-levers room. And that periscope can see you if you're not careful. :)
 

Unkillable Cat

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Which ones? Some of them have slightly better vision than average but they shouldn't see you in the dark, especially if you are fully darkened. If by that you mean they see you when they bump into you, it means the shadow you're in isn't deep enough.

Well, the archer by the fire near the start is a good example. He could see me in the darkness of the starting position, as well as on top of the generator by the clocktower, even when I was crouching and squeezed up against the corner. Both instances had the viewgem as fully darkened.

Then there's the guard in the manor that is entered by leapfrogging on the windowsills to get through an open window...he could see me in the dark as he walked by, even when I was standing on a chair. Finally the burgomeister himself, coming to investigate why someone had opened "the third door", walked right into the dining room, took aim and blasted me with a fireball while I was standing fully darkened on top of the table.

Keep in mind that the problem could be on my end - there was at least one install of TG where the AI was super-sensitive that I may not have cleaned out completely, I've probably installed over it but never removed it.

BTW, love the guy who's picking the lock and gives you that "Do you mind?" look as he cranes his neck back at an impossible angle. :)
 

skacky

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The archer by the fire has worse eyesight than his companion who goes to the start, so there must be something on your end then. Theedsblot has average eyesight but he's easily angered.
 

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
skacky,
I still have no idea what to do in the room with the levers, and I think I looked everywhere. And I have no idea where to look for the key to open the gate to the sewer tunnels, and I think I went through the whole map already. Halp pls.
 

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