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Trials of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 3 remake)

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by LESS T_T, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Quite drastic remake, huh. Looks much better than the remake of Secret of Mana anyway.
     
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  2. Ent Savant

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    I played the translation of the original 15 years ago. Hopefully it'll have co-op and I'll playthrough with my nephews this time.
     
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  3. Rahdulan Arcane Patron

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    This is probably the most unexpected announcement they made. Nice.
     
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  4. Machocruz Arcane

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    A major draw of the original was the stellar 16 bit graphics. Take that away and not much reason left to play. I didn't think the combat was exceptional at all.
     
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  5. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Also western release (today) of Collection of Mana (the original trilogy). :



    I waited for confirmation but it's Switch only, for now. Hope this to get released on PC down the line.
     
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    Someone needs to find out who is proposing all these damn remakes at Squeenix HQ and throw them down an elevator shaft. This is approaching Nutendo levels of faggotry and navel-gazing.
     
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  7. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Steam page with screenshots (which look like someone screencapped the trailer than actual screenshots :roll:)



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  8. TheHeroOfTime Arcane

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    Why they didn't make the Secret of Mana remake like this. Why.
     
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    Rubbish artstyle.
     
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  10. Ent Savant

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    Since this is a full remake a ton of mechanical changes are expected. I'm hoping they keep the stat system of the original (now critical hits will finally be a thing) and make the final classes of each character less of an afterthought and available much earlier in the game rather than just right before the final 2 or 3 areas.
     
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    This is fucking awesome, one of my childhood beloved games. I approve of the art direction, looks very true to original. I hope they will keep not make any changes to character introductory stories.
     
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  12. Ent Savant

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    The character designs look very faithful to the original concept art. Here's hoping the class changes for the characters will actually change the armor and weapon appearance as shown in the art rather than just color swaps like the original game.
     
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  14. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I'm looking at the original trilogy release rather than the silly looking remake, but I never played the Mana games. Any good? Isn't the real-time just button mashy?
     
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    Spells can be spammed as long as you have MPs left while weapons have a cooldown or some sort (if you mash you don't make damage) and you can also charge weapon attacks (I realize I'm talking about Secret of Mana, I don't have the specificities of Seiken Densenstu 3 in mind although in my memory it's an even better game, the choices of the 3 characters from the start especially is a very good addition, including for example a werewolf which as you could expect is better during the night than during the day).

    I think Secret of Mana and this one (and Secret Of Evermore too with the fan-made multiplayer mode, but when it was released you could only played alone and I'm sure I was not the only disappointed child at the time) are maybe my very favourite local co-op games, in particular if you're exactly 3 (2 for Evermore). It's one of the reasons I really love the games.

    Now to be fair in solo they're still fun to play but saying the combat system stands out would be an exaggeration although I think the system and UI are not the worst ever to control the 3 characters in the same time to some extent (actually control one while still launching spells with the two others). For the rest the dungeons are decent, the graphics are good, the musics extremely good, the stories are super cool IMO with characters in the party which listen to NPCs more than they talk to each other.
     
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    Nintendo isn't making enough remakes to begin with, so I really have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
     
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  17. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    I think the artstyle looks quite close to the original, as close as a 3D remake can hope to look. Like the DS remake of Final Fantasy 4. I like it.
     
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  18. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    https://gematsu.com/2019/06/trials-of-mana-is-the-most-action-heavy-game-in-the-series-fully-voiced

     
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  19. deuxhero Arcane

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    Will characters take off their clothes to sleep like in the original?

    The stats system of the original is literally broken. Agility does nothing but make the trap wheel slower for most characters.
     
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  20. Ysaye Savant

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    The engine looks the same as dragon quest xi, but with the "mana" faces instead of the iconic DQ ones.
     
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  21. Paper Educated

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    Looks good, almost as tasteful as 3D DQ games. Is the original any good?
     
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  22. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    The original is very good. You can make your own party out of 6 characters and they're all very different. You can then class change all 6 further into at first 2 options for specializing, and then 4. You pick one of the nine as a main character and they all have a different starting vignette that's pretty long. There's also three different final bosses and ending beats depending on your main character.

    It's also wonderful to coop. The graphics are jaw-dropping for SNES and it's got some of the most unrivaled pixel art I've ever seen.

    Edit: I misremembered how many characters there were.
     
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    Small correction, it's 6 Characters, but agree with everything you said...
     
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  24. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron Sad Loser

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    Thanks, I corrected it. It's been a while.
     
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  25. Ent Savant

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    Characters can use mulitple weapon types in the remake? I'm hype.
     
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