Trigger the codex with a statement.

[Necrensha]

You don't need constant combat to be an RPG.

 

[DehBepis]

Disco Elysium is a RPG. I've yet to hear a good argument as to why it is not a cRPG, and the people that continue to rail on about it are just displaying why discourse on this forum around such topics is trash.

the only retarded thing that's been said about DE in the past couple pages is probably saying it's not a game which is objectively quite well-regarded. I think it's more proof that the terms "visual novel" and "RPG" are as currently defined, basically useless. And games should instead be split up into far more genres than they already are.

Terms like visual novel and RPG are not useless, it just so happens that the vast majority of the people do not understand what these terms actually mean, and clearly you're included in that.

The games made by Telltale were CYOA visual novel style games. Disco Elysium has many clear differences to these games, and at bare minimum is NOT a visual novel. RPG is the closest genre classification that fits what Disco Elysium is, and while it derivatives in a few meaningful ways from what is traditionally considered a cRPG, unless a new sub genre is invented with DE and the few DE-like games that have been made, it is for all intents and purposes, a cRPG.

i don't really get what makes DE not a CYOA honestly, is it the focus on stats? That's different from a game being a CYOA. It's definitely not a visual novel though, and people who say that are circlejerking for made up brownie points.

I don't really like the term RPG and I feel like it's been muddled to the point of unusability and games called RPGs should just be called something else, and if the term RPG didn't exist I think DE would be called a CYOA game.

 

[Luke Skinwalker]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

ideal game for planetar - sheep herder simulator. part of his ancient culture.

It's part of everyone's ancient culture, retard. Except niggers.

 

[Reinhardt]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

ideal game for planetar - sheep herder simulator. part of his ancient culture.

It's part of everyone's ancient culture, retard. Except niggers.

not everyone fucks them tho.

 

[Luke Skinwalker]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

ideal game for planetar - sheep herder simulator. part of his ancient culture.

It's part of everyone's ancient culture, retard. Except niggers.

not everyone fucks them tho.

You seem obsessed.

 

[Sweeper]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

ideal game for planetar - sheep herder simulator. part of his ancient culture.

It's part of everyone's ancient culture, retard. Except niggers.

not everyone fucks them tho.

Liberal is Albanian?

 

[DehBepis]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

ideal game for planetar - sheep herder simulator. part of his ancient culture.

It's part of everyone's ancient culture, retard. Except niggers.

not everyone fucks them tho.

Liberal is Albanian?

another win for Greater Bosnia

 

[Reinhardt]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

ideal game for planetar - sheep herder simulator. part of his ancient culture.

It's part of everyone's ancient culture, retard. Except niggers.

not everyone fucks them tho.

You seem obsessed.

and you played mass effect

 

[Luke Skinwalker]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

i agree, hard to play with a boner

Let me know which of these monsters gave you a boner:

 

[Reinhardt]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

i agree, hard to play with a boner

Let me know which of these monsters gave you a boner:

why you posting beastiality pics?

 

[ItsChon]

i don't really get what makes DE not a CYOA honestly, is it the focus on stats? That's different from a game being a CYOA. It's definitely not a visual novel though, and people who say that are circlejerking for made up brownie points.

I don't really like the term RPG and I feel like it's been muddled to the point of unusability and games called RPGs should just be called something else, and if the term RPG didn't exist I think DE would be called a CYOA game.

See here.

What? DE may not be a "full-fledged RPG" (if RPGs require robust combat systems; there are occasional fights of a limited sort in the game), but it has not even the faintest resemblance to CYOA books, which don't track variables. Even the very, very limited number of gamebooks that tracked character stats (in a very, very limited way) didn't track world-state variables. And none of them had anything resembling dialogue.

You might say that DE is a very good RPG minus combat, but a CYOA book is not an RPG minus combat, it's something else entirely. An elephant without tusks isn't a chez lounge.

And, to preempt the argument, DE isn't an adventure game. Its puzzles are comparably limited to its combat, its items primarily have generic stat-based effects that trigger upon being equipped rather than custom puzzle-oriented effects that trigger upon being used on a hotspot.

Nor is DE a visual novel, as those don't offer free-form exploration, inventories, etc.

Overall, DE is clearly closest to an RPG, so it seems like either you have to say "it's its own thing" or "it's an RPG without combat" rather than trying to shoehorn it into some other category of game.

It doesn't matter whether or not you like the term RPG. The term works to identify a specific type of game the vast majority of the time, and any other term you decide to further subdivide the genre is going to be subject to the same issues that the term RPG has. If you want more specific subterms to further classify specific games, those already exist, i.e; ARPGs, Turn-Based cRPGs, RTwP cRPGs, narrative cRPGs, etc.

 

[Cat Dude]

Clair Obscur Expedition 33 should have been on General Rpg Discussion board because it's a western made rpg.

 

[Quillon]

Clair Obscur Expedition 33 should have been on General Rpg Discussion board because it's a western made rpg.

and it has Might attribute for all damage, I wonder where they got the idea from?

 

[Silverfish]

why you posting beastiality pics?

Miranda's not that bad.

 

[Luke Skinwalker]

why you posting beastiality pics?

Miranda's not that bad.

Have you seen her giant head? It's huge!

 

[Bibbimbop]

There should not be any female party members in RPGs.

i agree, hard to play with a boner

Let me know which of these monsters gave you a boner:

Mmm mmm mmm them bakara whole lotta damn fine woman.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Liberal is Albanian?

He's Gruzin.

 

[aweigh]

just played like 3 straight hours of call of duty multiplayer

 

[Hag]

Even games you don't like can be RPGs.

 

[octavius]

RPGs are not art.

 

[Froila]

RPGs are a platform for political messages.

 

[Bibbimbop]

RPGs are a platform for political messages.

That's actually true.

No other game genre requires you to think about your character's motivations and lived experiences, and the way your character ought to think and behave for xir role. The result? You begin internalizing the shit politics of the fags who made the game and the character.

People can easily play an FPS or RTS that force players to interact with purple-haired dykes as characters, but those insertions of agenda just become more meaningless pixels to click at and kill. But RPGs make you consider their perspective. That is why RPGs will make you suck a fat cock even faster than tap water turns frogs gay.

 

[Reinhardt]

RPGs are a platform for political messages.

That's actually true.

No other game genre requires you to think about your character's motivations and lived experiences, and the way your character ought to think and behave for xir role. The result? You begin internalizing the shit politics of the fags who made the game and the character.

People can easily play an FPS or RTS that force players to interact with purple-haired dykes as characters, but those insertions of agenda just become more meaningless pixels to click at and kill. But RPGs make you consider their perspective. That is why RPGs will make you suck a fat cock even faster than tap water turns frogs gay.

that's why "roll players" should be beaten and humiliated and rpg games should be ONLY about combat.

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

....combat, exploration, loot, and a sense of progression of your party's overall power.

 

[Froila]

RPGs are a platform for political messages.

That's actually true.

No other game genre requires you to think about your character's motivations and lived experiences, and the way your character ought to think and behave for xir role. The result? You begin internalizing the shit politics of the fags who made the game and the character.

People can easily play an FPS or RTS that force players to interact with purple-haired dykes as characters, but those insertions of agenda just become more meaningless pixels to click at and kill. But RPGs make you consider their perspective. That is why RPGs will make you suck a fat cock even faster than tap water turns frogs gay.

Just because RPGs can be used as interactive medium for propaganda, it doesn't mean they should.

Actually, video games are bad media for pushing messages, they have too mush reactivity for that.

Of course, someone can fill game with propaganda, but players will quickly get bored with it, or - what's even worse - will make fun with it.

TTRPGs suit better for this task: they have peer pressure.