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Indie turn-based RPG survey - help out an indie dev

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Rob Thompson, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. Morpheus Kitami Learned

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    If you take away one thing from this thread, it should be this, don't do a card-based combat game. Don't fucking do it. Just. Don't. I've seen a lot of them and none of them are fun to people that don't specifically appreciate them. Even if its the greatest card-based game of all time, its still not going to be fun to play. Its an oversaturated field and you're going to sell nothing. If that's what you want to make, I can't dissuade you, but if you're just doing this because you think you're going to make money, save yourself the trouble and don't.
    Don't care about the rest, just do something that isn't generic high or low fantasy.
     
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  2. cursed Savant

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    If you make combat card-based then it's not a turn-based RPG... it's a card game.
     
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  3. Narushima Learned

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    Make a card game.
     
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  4. newtmonkey Arcane

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    Based on the survey questions, this seems less like market research and more like, "We went through the Unity tutorials and want to start selling something quick, which type of card-based JRPG do you like?"
     
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  5. Sinatar Arbiter

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    I dunno how to design a game, please tell me what to do.

    Yikes.
     
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  6. Bastardchops Scholar

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    The one and only. It was originally going to be turn-based. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huPF3Gid7DE
     
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  7. sorinmask Just like Yves, I chase tales. Patron

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    The only card RPG I ever played that I tolerated was Cultist Simulator, but that's because I love Lovecraftian stuff, and it is really well made and there is a LOT of heart put into that game.

    Otherwise, high skepticism.
     
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  8. Atrachasis Augur

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    Yes, but it's NOT a smart thing to conduct market research at the Codex, the sampling bias is going to be horrendous.

    A great place for constructive (and caustic) feedback it is, and has always been, if you approach it with something substantial at hand.
     
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  9. Rafidur Educated

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  10. laclongquan Arcane

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    Does Sengoku Rance act similar to a card game?
     
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  11. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Dumb thread. Just hire me to make all your decisions for you.
     
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  12. Citizen Arcane

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    This. If you want to use my expert opinion on turn-based RPGs, hire me as a consultant, do you expect me to make you money for a fucking kid yoda picture
     
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  13. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    He might as well go all the way and hire Cleve as consultant
     
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  14. Nortar Savant Patron

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    MCA is also available.
     
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  15. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    Yea but he was asking for experts, not has-beens. :smug:
     
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  16. just Learned

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    rob, hear me out. i've done my research and i'm considered one of the top experts in the field.
    you need:
    combat (turn based) - if you dont want combat in your game you better start writing 3 million words about communism and then swap all the words with thesaurus.
    gameplay - if on the release day you get comments like: "this game is too hard", "theres no minimap, halo it's 2020", "game doesnt have a quest log, is this a bug?", ... you've made it. otherwise start working on it.
    hot chicks - you'll be branded a nazi, incel, homophobe, mysgonyst and sexist by 15 people on twitter. ignore that and cater to real men with a lot of money (us)
    no romance, but a lot of sex - romance is for fags who dont get love irl, but you have to include some fucking otherwise all those hot chicks have no place in the game.
    short and to the point conversations - nobody wants to read in a video game. if you just have to write long prose, include a skip conversation button somewhere.

    follow this few simple steps and you're a good candidate for rpg of the year
     
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  17. Darth Canoli Magister

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    Just fuck off already...
    That's where i stopped answering the questions.

    Bonus, the next question was :

    I didn't even get it, not that i want to understand...

    If it's not a troll, they're retarded and they'd never release a decent game if they lived 2000 years...
     
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  18. Drowed Arcane

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    That's because you're a bot.

    :updatedmytxt:
     
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  19. AMG Arbiter

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    Go for card based combat.
    That way you will end up on RPG Codex GOTY podium.
     
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  20. Ataraxia Educated

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    Corrected that for you, my fellow codexer.
     
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  21. Reinhardt Arcane

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    It will be shit just like all other rpg games, turned based or not.
     
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  22. Nortar Savant Patron

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  23. Saduj Arcane

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    Just completed the survey. All questions about preferences. Not a single question about “how to” despite some of the claims made here.
     
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  24. laclongquan Arcane

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    It's unfortunate yet unavoidable.

    We Codexers are famous for liking flawed gems and not success stories.

    If we like it, there's 50:50 chance it's sunk like a stone commercially.

    5050 because we do have record of liking Witcher series, Skyrim, Fallout4, DA series, Mass Effect series.
     
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  25. Stavrophore Prophet

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    I've did the survey, i hope it will do something good i guess[im sure it won't].
     
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