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Interview Turn-based Space Action RPG in the making from Ex-Troika

Elwro

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I used the term "crap" in the "a game that has a demo that (even if I'm easily above the hardware requirements) wastes (after installing) 20 minutes on doing something strange on the net and eventually DOESN'T let me play even with all antivirus / firewall software disabled" sense, which, I agree, might be a little bit unclear in my previous post. I have no idea about the gameplay itself as I was never able to run the game due to Steam connection errors. (And Guild Wars runs just fine...)
 

GhanBuriGhan

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Hazelnut said:
Half-Life 2 was not crap - maybe not to your taste, but it was in no way 'crap'.

It's most definitely up there with the best of them in my "No regrets about purchasing" list.

(I would agree that it's a crap RPG though, but since Beth had no hand in the PR no-one actually thought that it would be.)

YUR DUMP! COURSE its na RPG!!! You can play the role of Sam FISZHER (or was it Gordom Freman, lolsz!). And you can choose different weapons. And you can pretend to talk to NPC's, too!

Errr.

I don't really mind steam, but I was pretty pissed when I found that I could not update or play online with my legally bought original half-life copy anymore, because my CD key has apparently been hijacked.
 

bryce777

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Elwro said:
I used the term "crap" in the "a game that has a demo that (even if I'm easily above the hardware requirements) wastes (after installing) 20 minutes on doing something strange on the net and eventually DOESN'T let me play even with all antivirus / firewall software disabled" sense, which, I agree, might be a little bit unclear in my previous post. I have no idea about the gameplay itself as I was never able to run the game due to Steam connection errors. (And Guild Wars runs just fine...)

Yeah, even if they 'verify' the files, they should be able to just make a hash of the files. It almost sounds like they are sending your whole game installation back and forth or something.

It just sounds like something written by some semi autistic intern.
 

Human Shield

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I haven't had many connection errors, they usually clear up pretty fast and the download nicely resumes. And like I said you can play single player games without needing to connect after you finish downloads.

People with hijacked IE systems need to get off their asses and clean it up.
 

Drakron

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Well that is because you are too bussy sucking Gabe cock ...

Steam is absolute shit for anyone living outside NA because Steam servers are locked in NA (likely under Gabe desk) so information have to go over all those data centers before we reach the actual server and then making the trip back.

I never managed to install Half Life 2 demo because the connection keep disconnecting.
 

Human Shield

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Drakron said:
Steam is absolute shit for anyone living outside NA because Steam servers are locked in NA (likely under Gabe desk) so information have to go over all those data centers before we reach the actual server and then making the trip back.

I never managed to install Half Life 2 demo because the connection keep disconnecting.

I don't know. I've heard people download full HL2 in China. Did you get an error message? Do you have broadband?
 

Hazelnut

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Elwro: Sorry - thought you were saying HL2 was crap even though you hadn't got to play the demo... :oops:

Ghan: WTF? :lol:

Drakron: Well I live outside NA and when I purchased HL2 it took ages over my then very slow 128k connection. I don't recall dropped connections, but I know that if my PC crashed I seemed to have all the data transferred & verified okay - so it just continued. Steam still gives me a little grief when I shut it down, but I'm on an 8 year old version of windows so I cut it some slack for that. It's one hell of a lot better than it was though. I still hate the basic control freakishness of it, but there is always a good reason for it (from certain perspectives) if you look beyond the hyperbole. I do wish that the customer would be treated with more trust and consideration, but then look at the sample from the ESF... :roll: What would you do given that as part of your customer base?
 

Oarfish

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Mantiis said:
for cheating? Do you have an actual reference for this or is this second hand knowledge?

It's on wikipedia and answers.com, so yeah, it's second hand knowledge.
 

trystero

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...

You guys have been on a role with the interviews lately. Very good stuff.

- trystero
 

kingcomrade

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I'm going to start doing that too, it makes me look awesome. And there's always the chance someone might not be able to figure out who posted this message.

Sincerely,
kingcomrade
 

Slaine

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Those games will still be vulnerable to piracy no matter what they are gonna do.
 

TheGreatGodPan

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The Source engine seems odd for an isometric turn-based game, but then again I don't know jack shit about game engines.
 

Mantiis

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Oarfish said:
Mantiis said:
for cheating? Do you have an actual reference for this or is this second hand knowledge?

It's on wikipedia and answers.com, so yeah, it's second hand knowledge.

Did a bit of searching to confirm:

Those that have been caught by the system also criticise it, usually with the claim that it has made a false positive. The only recorded instance of a false positive was under VAC1 in 2003, when it detected the in-game MP3 player HLAmp, a plug-in frequently bundled with cheats of the time, as a cheat itself. The mistake and its effects were reverted approximately five hours after the first users received bans due to it.

So recently there have been no false positives and VAC2 has never returned a false positive.
 

MarFish

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Ausir said:
Yay! Troika might be no more, but it's good to know that its spirit continues. By the way, does anyone know what Tim, Leon and Jason are doing nowadays?

You mean the Cocksucking continues?
 

mathboy

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Human Shield said:
DarkUnderlord needs to win some type of journalism medal this is frontline reporting.

I need one too, I was the one who let him do the interview with Michael.
 

7th Circle

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TheGreatGodPan said:
The Source engine seems odd for an isometric turn-based game, but then again I don't know jack shit about game engines.

I had the same thought. I also found it ironic that he talked about Source being great once you understood its strengths and weaknesses given the problems it appeared to have cause Troika in regard to Bloodlines.
 

AdrianWerner

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TheGreatGodPan said:
The Source engine seems odd for an isometric turn-based game, but then again I don't know jack shit about game engines.
Well. I think it will work excelent visualy. Source is still a nice looking engine and with such perspective it's age won't be as visible.
I think AlienSwarm:Infested is a good example of how this game might look, it;s also SF and isometric and it looks very nice
 

TheGreatGodPan

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AdrianWerner said:
Well. I think it will work excelent visualy. Source is still a nice looking engine and with such perspective it's age won't be as visible.
I actually find it very funny that you talk about trying to hide the age of the Source engine. I suppose that seems perfectly sensible to most gamers, but I'm living so far in the past that the next-big-thing before the-next-big-thing before the-next-big-thing before Source is far beyond the reach of my rig, and it seems like just yesterday people were drooling over it while I was shouting "Death to graphics whores! Long live text!".
 

Slylandro

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AdrianWerner said:
TheGreatGodPan said:
The Source engine seems odd for an isometric turn-based game, but then again I don't know jack shit about game engines.
Well. I think it will work excelent visualy. Source is still a nice looking engine and with such perspective it's age won't be as visible.
I think AlienSwarm:Infested is a good example of how this game might look, it;s also SF and isometric and it looks very nice

Modern 3d game engines are very flexible. To make it isometric would be a (relatively) painless change involving the camera and a few other things... Lots of the true logic of a game is in the scripts I think. Anyway IIRC, Bioware is planning to license the Unreal Tournament 2007 engine, so this kind of thing can't be new.
 

bryce777

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Hazelnut said:
I do wish that the customer would be treated with more trust and consideration, but then look at the sample from the ESF... :roll: What would you do given that as part of your customer base?

One good thing about not marketing to the lowest common denominator is that you don't reach the lowest common denominator. I don't pity them much.
 

glasnost

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bryce777 said:
One good thing about not marketing to the lowest common denominator is that you don't reach the lowest common denominator. I don't pity them much.
and if they want something better than what they are currently immersed in, they can seek it out and find it.

Everybody who wants to win, wins.
 

bryce777

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glasnost said:
bryce777 said:
One good thing about not marketing to the lowest common denominator is that you don't reach the lowest common denominator. I don't pity them much.
and if they want something better than what they are currently immersed in, they can seek it out and find it.

LOL

No shit. Or rather, lots of shit, people have willingly immersed themselves in.
 

Saint_Proverbius

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Ausir said:
Yay! Troika might be no more, but it's good to know that its spirit continues.

Well, Troika was moving away from turn based, so I'm happy to see Mikey moving away from the direction Troika was headed.
 

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