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Except early game is money actually a problem, i.e beside super steel is there anything really expensive that would justify disassemble shenannigans?

Not counting jet ski money sink as this is 100% LARPing.
Not really, though. It's not worth it spend too much money early on unless you're really craft-focused, and even still the components you might get by that time are pretty crap. Sometimes you can get ridiculously lucky and see stuff like advanced catalyst belt at sale from the doctor in Junkyard, i did get it once, but i wasn't playing a acid build. Abrams quests are also piss easy and net you almost 2k charons. The only really expensive thing is super steel at 9k charons and RNG deciding your quality, less of a hassle if you're willing to postpone your crafting until you get all 4 datasticks to up the quality (and RNG might still fuck you in the ass).

I play only on DOM and i can buy all house furniture and jetskis with no problem.
 

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I can, everyone can. Traders refresh in 30 minutes at full game speed
yes, but most people don't invent copes about how that justifies cheating
because it's retarded, it doesn't
What a dishonest nigger, I've never said that mercantile skill itself is useless.
you effectively are, you dumb retarded cheating nigger, the skill and perk economy is such as that higher skills enables you to be better at hawking your shit at greater quantities per update if you invest in it with skills and perks, but you instead use the cheat engine to bypass it like a cheating gypsy nigger you are and then give SHIT advice from a CHEATING SHIT NIGGER perspective about how the perks suck and aren't doing their job
you don't even notice the glut disassemble (your "signature" LMAO) creates because you're a cheatnigger who peddles their shit at will with no consideration to weight - something people who aren't cheatniggers will notice and have to work with, so your shit is only good for cheatniggers
we wouldn't be having this exchange if you properly marked your posts as being from a CHEATNIGGER and for CHEATNIGGERS
 

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Except early game is money actually a problem, i.e beside super steel is there anything really expensive that would justify disassemble shenannigans?

Not counting jet ski money sink as this is 100% LARPing.
I play only on DOM and i can buy all house furniture and jetskis with no problem.
you're another vendor refresh infinite invetory CHEATNIGGER, though - it should read "I play only on CHEATNIGGER and i can buy all house furniture and jetskis with no problem because I use cheats."
 

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you're another vendor refresh infinite invetory CHEATNIGGER, though - it should read "I play only on CHEATNIGGER and i can buy all house furniture and jetskis with no problem because I use cheats."
I don't even use the cheat engine, what the fuck you're talking about
 

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Trade-related feats suck not because money isn't the issue but because they won't help you with getting specific items like Image Intensifier Tube and the like. Until you don't know the game meaning where to get what it's all fine but once you do you sometimes you are just bound to do endless trader rounds which's annoying. Vendor refresh fixes that. If there was a feat which effectively do the same I'd just take it instead for all builds but alas. It's like saying use of speedhack makes you a filthy cheater back when the game itself didn't have that feature. If you like to waste your time normie in the game instead of doing something interesting then go ahead.
 

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Trade-related feats suck not because money isn't the issue but because they won't help you with getting specific items like Image Intensifier Tube and the like. Until you don't know the game meaning where to get what it's all fine but once you do you sometimes you are just bound to do endless trader rounds which's annoying. Vendor refresh fixes that. If there was a feat which effectively do the same I'd just take it instead for all builds but alas. It's like saying use of speedhack makes you a filthy cheater back when the game itself didn't have that feature. If you like to waste your time normie in the game instead of doing something interesting then go ahead.
And the mercantile feats don't even affect vendor refresh or RNG, so his sperg out doesn't even makes sense
 

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you're another vendor refresh infinite invetory CHEATNIGGER, though - it should read "I play only on CHEATNIGGER and i can buy all house furniture and jetskis with no problem because I use cheats."
I don't even use the cheat engine, what the fuck you're talking about
if you're not with me calling out the cheatniggers, you're one of the cheatniggers, that's how it works
Vendor refresh fixes that.
that's so sad and broken, there should be a console so you could just spawn things in your inventory and not be forced to use CE :'(
I'm sure that's all you use it for, to look for that one single thing that just isn't appearing, and not to trade all the shit you don't need for things you do, at your convenience
 
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yes, but most people don't invent copes about how that justifies cheating
Is speedhack a cheat now too? Need your opinion on it as well

you effectively are, you dumb retarded cheating nigger, the skill and perk economy is such as that higher skills enables you to be better at hawking your shit at greater quantities per update if you invest in it with skills and perks, but you instead use the cheat engine to bypass it like a cheating gypsy nigger you are and then give SHIT advice from a CHEATING SHIT NIGGER perspective about how the perks suck and aren't doing their job
you don't even notice the glut disassemble (your "signature" LMAO) creates because you're a cheatnigger who peddles their shit at will with no consideration to weight - something people who aren't cheatniggers will notice and have to work with, so your shit is only good for cheatniggers
we wouldn't be having this exchange if you properly marked your posts as being from a CHEATNIGGER and for CHEATNIGGERS
Ahh, sorry mate, I didn't notice that you are retarded. This removes many questions

Disassemble is simply better because it maximizes the value per item. You collect the gear, disassemble it, reassemble the best frames/vests with the best components, and carry them to trader. Every item in 100% condition too. This nets you more money than just unloading all the sub-optimal and used gear with salesman

Less but more expensive items > more but cheaper items. And you would be telling me about weight economy nigger?

And if trader doesn't buy anymore, what should I do? Rifts, retard.

I can do Oskar (+400), Len (+300), Blaine (+250), Kevin (+350). That's 1300 coins per run solely on weapons and vests, every 30 minutes. All except Blaine are next screen to a nearest rift too, you can walk them encumbered alright
 

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Is speedhack a cheat now too? Need your opinion on it as well
CE speedhack? of course, double so if you're using it for cheatnigger ends
Disassemble is simply better because it maximizes the value per item. You collect the gear, disassemble it, reassemble the best frames/vests with the best components, and carry them to trader. Every item in 100% condition too. This nets you more money than just unloading all the sub-optimal and used gear with salesman

Less but more expensive items > more but cheaper items. And you would be telling me about weight economy nigger?
NO, you lying CHEATNIGGER - disassemble creates a glut because you aren't recycling less valuable items to repair high value items to make better use of the weight to value economy, relative to what you can reasonably carry
this is all foreign to you, because you are a disassembling CHEATNIGGER who creates A GLUT of items you can only rationally sell using vendor refresh and now talking about it like it's some great universal for everybody
NO, it's cheatnigger shit for CHEATNIGGERS
And if trader doesn't buy anymore, what should I do? Rifts, retard.
they're not equivalent or anywhere near as convenient, I get it's part of your cope that justifies your cheating (DURRR RIFTS ARE THE SAME AS SELLING INFINITE ITEMS TO INFINITE MERCHANTS WITH INFINITE DEMAND AND INFINITE MONEY, SO I MIGHT AS WELL CHEAT TO SAVE MYSELF THE WAIT AND THE WALK)
 

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NO, you lying CHEATNIGGER - disassemble creates a glut because you aren't recycling less valuable items to repair high value items to make better use of the weight to value economy, relative to what you can reasonably carry
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.

But if you want MORE money, you would still haul them around.

Never did hauling trips?

Even at 3 STR, you get 130 units +10 rathound BBQ +10 fursuit +50 large waist pack - 200 units carry capacity, with your own gear lightened up, you can carry 150 units of trash all around easily. With pentapus bbq and power fist you can get to 225 units total. Drag shit to the nearest rift and sell later if needed. I like using Sprint when encumbered to help with the crawl

This, without trader refresh but with due diligence nets you ever more money in the long run
 

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lol what the fuck is wrong with this dude
the cheatnigger has hijacked this thread and is spewing bullshit off a high hill as if he isn't a cheatnigger, I don't care
when the cheatnigger starts talking shit about perks that do 3/4ths of the shit he is being a cheatnigger for (increase merchant demand, increase money supply, exchange excesses of what you don't want for excesses of what you do want at one's convenience), it's time to point it out

when you aren't engaging with the economy like he isn't, you are effectively just playing in debug mode, it's completely foreign to the non-cheatnigger experience
but maybe the most important thing - CHEATNIGGERS are people with low honour in general, they also cheat in ways they aren't forthcoming about
everything a cheatnigger posts about their runs is suspect
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.
see, like this
 

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lol what the fuck is wrong with this dude
the cheatnigger has hijacked this thread and is spewing bullshit off a high hill as if he isn't a cheatnigger, I don't care
when the cheatnigger starts talking shit about perks that do 3/4ths of the shit he is being a cheatnigger for (increase merchant demand, increase money supply, exchange excesses of what you don't want for excesses of what you do want at one's convenience), it's time to point it out

when you aren't engaging with the economy like he isn't, you are effectively just playing in debug mode, it's completely foreign to the non-cheatnigger experience
but maybe the most important thing - CHEATNIGGERS are people with low honour in general, they also cheat in ways they aren't forthcoming about
everything a cheatnigger posts about their runs is suspect
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.
see, like this
Eidein and Sheepherder are cheaters now. They use speedhack after all
 

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everything a cheatnigger posts about their runs is suspect
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.
see, like this
So what's wrong with it, please explain, not everyone here understands
 

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lol what the fuck is wrong with this dude
the cheatnigger has hijacked this thread and is spewing bullshit off a high hill as if he isn't a cheatnigger, I don't care
when the cheatnigger starts talking shit about perks that do 3/4ths of the shit he is being a cheatnigger for (increase merchant demand, increase money supply, exchange excesses of what you don't want for excesses of what you do want at one's convenience), it's time to point it out

when you aren't engaging with the economy like he isn't, you are effectively just playing in debug mode, it's completely foreign to the non-cheatnigger experience
but maybe the most important thing - CHEATNIGGERS are people with low honour in general, they also cheat in ways they aren't forthcoming about
everything a cheatnigger posts about their runs is suspect
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.
see, like this
Eidein and Sheepherder are cheaters now. They use speedhack after all
yes yes, call your mom and dad, bloody bastard
 

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lol what the fuck is wrong with this dude
the cheatnigger has hijacked this thread and is spewing bullshit off a high hill as if he isn't a cheatnigger, I don't care
when the cheatnigger starts talking shit about perks that do 3/4ths of the shit he is being a cheatnigger for (increase merchant demand, increase money supply, exchange excesses of what you don't want for excesses of what you do want at one's convenience), it's time to point it out

when you aren't engaging with the economy like he isn't, you are effectively just playing in debug mode, it's completely foreign to the non-cheatnigger experience
but maybe the most important thing - CHEATNIGGERS are people with low honour in general, they also cheat in ways they aren't forthcoming about
everything a cheatnigger posts about their runs is suspect
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.
see, like this
Eidein and Sheepherder are cheaters now. They use speedhack after all
yes yes, call your mom and dad, bloody bastard
But they use speedhack, which you deemed as CHEATNIGGER thing. This means that they are CHEATNIGGERS and we should care about their builds, as these builds are CHEATNIGGER builds for other CHEATNIGGERS
 

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lol what the fuck is wrong with this dude
the cheatnigger has hijacked this thread and is spewing bullshit off a high hill as if he isn't a cheatnigger, I don't care
when the cheatnigger starts talking shit about perks that do 3/4ths of the shit he is being a cheatnigger for (increase merchant demand, increase money supply, exchange excesses of what you don't want for excesses of what you do want at one's convenience), it's time to point it out

when you aren't engaging with the economy like he isn't, you are effectively just playing in debug mode, it's completely foreign to the non-cheatnigger experience
but maybe the most important thing - CHEATNIGGERS are people with low honour in general, they also cheat in ways they aren't forthcoming about
everything a cheatnigger posts about their runs is suspect
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.
see, like this
It just sounds like you have poor inventory and money management. I just leave all my loot and repair kits in one spot to mass repair it, then i left the excess in front of every shop according to their demands, so i can just do my merchant runs for max value everytime they refresh. You'd stop being a broke ass zoner if you stopped selling 50 quality hawkers instead of repairing sniper rifles and tac vests. The game has tens of merchants, a good quality tacvest sells for almost 200 charons, crossbows sell for a lot at constantine's, weapons are almost universally accepted, there's a crapload of shields you can loot and sell for good price and energy pistols, especially if you repair them, will give you a crapload of money. You can sell stuff for good price at SGS and buy meds and batteries there instead of spending charons. All you need is good merchantile and a modest investment in crafting skills.

tl;dr: skill issue

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People cheat because this game is poorly designed on many areas: snail character speed, merchant inventory that reloads based on IRL minutes (not ingame minutes) among others but the worst aspect of the game that no cheat or plugin can fix is the tinyness of each separate map. Not only the loading times are crap for the size of the map but each map tile has poor variety (Cave/Bunker/Railroad).
Hell, even Jagged alliance 1 released in 1994 for MS-DOS has much bigger maps, lower loading times (even back then) and more variety. This is a joke.
 

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lol what the fuck is wrong with this dude
the cheatnigger has hijacked this thread and is spewing bullshit off a high hill as if he isn't a cheatnigger, I don't care
when the cheatnigger starts talking shit about perks that do 3/4ths of the shit he is being a cheatnigger for (increase merchant demand, increase money supply, exchange excesses of what you don't want for excesses of what you do want at one's convenience), it's time to point it out

when you aren't engaging with the economy like he isn't, you are effectively just playing in debug mode, it's completely foreign to the non-cheatnigger experience
but maybe the most important thing - CHEATNIGGERS are people with low honour in general, they also cheat in ways they aren't forthcoming about
everything a cheatnigger posts about their runs is suspect
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.
see, like this
Eidein and Sheepherder are cheaters now. They use speedhack after all
yes yes, call your mom and dad, bloody bastard
But they use speedhack, which you deemed as CHEATNIGGER thing. This means that they are CHEATNIGGERS and we should care about their builds, as these builds are CHEATNIGGER builds for other CHEATNIGGERS
they aren't using the speedhack to fast forward the game's internal timer for cheatniggery
I didn't even mention speedhack, you brought it up to rope bystanders in as human shield
and I let you, to prove you're BITCH-MADE
lol what the fuck is wrong with this dude
the cheatnigger has hijacked this thread and is spewing bullshit off a high hill as if he isn't a cheatnigger, I don't care
when the cheatnigger starts talking shit about perks that do 3/4ths of the shit he is being a cheatnigger for (increase merchant demand, increase money supply, exchange excesses of what you don't want for excesses of what you do want at one's convenience), it's time to point it out

when you aren't engaging with the economy like he isn't, you are effectively just playing in debug mode, it's completely foreign to the non-cheatnigger experience
but maybe the most important thing - CHEATNIGGERS are people with low honour in general, they also cheat in ways they aren't forthcoming about
everything a cheatnigger posts about their runs is suspect
This is so wrong it's even funny

Are you aware that less valuable items could be just left lying around? Not picked up and hauled?

With disassemble I select the most expensive items, repair them and carry them to the trader. That's it, I don't even have to touch those hawkers and jackrabbits.
see, like this
It just sounds like you have poor inventory and money management. I just leave all my loot and repair kits in one spot to mass repair it, then i left the excess in front of every shop according to their demands, so i can just do my merchant runs for max value everytime they refresh. You'd stop being a broke ass zoner if you stopped selling 50 quality hawkers instead of repairing sniper rifles and tac vests. The game has tens of merchants, a good quality tacvest sells for almost 200 charons, crossbows sell for a lot at constantine's, weapons are almost universally accepted, there's a crapload of shields you can loot and sell for good price and energy pistols, especially if you repair them, will give you a crapload of money. You can sell stuff for good price at SGS and buy meds and batteries there instead of spending charons. All you need is good merchantile and a modest investment in crafting skills.

tl;dr: skill issue

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you're so far off beside the point directing that at me, I'd be confused if my theory of mind wasn't as exceptionally great as it is
 

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they aren't using the speedhack to fast forward the game's internal timer for cheatniggery
But it's the same

If he does some fights which are 30min ingame, but 10m IRL due to speedhack, he actually made trader refresh 20min quicker, which is - CHEATNIGGERY

You do realize that once I get home I will do a single clean (no CHEATNIGGER CHEATNIGGERY) trade run, with autistically many screencaps, and you will look even more retarded than you do now (yes, this is still possible)
 

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But it's the same
it's not the same
you need to claim it's the same or pretend that's what my claim is to spread your own guilty feelings of being called out for being a cheatnigger around, drawing false equivalencies between speedhacks for non-shitter purposes and instant vendor refresh to circumvent the game's economy and feat system, but no, they have no share in it, the cross is yours to bear

I don't even mind you being a cheatnigger, time is more valuable than anything, but this is really really low, in an actual manner I do care about
You do realize that once I get home I will do a single clean (no CHEATNIGGER CHEATNIGGERY) trade run, with autistically many screencaps, and you will look even more retarded than you do now (yes, this is still possible)
yes yes, make a whole tortured exercise out of avoiding the point,
CHEATNIGGER
 

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