Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Cryomancer]

You avoid speedhack because you have principles.

I avoid speedhack because I don't know how to use it.

We are not the same.

And I avoid cuz I refuse to use M$ spybloatware and don't think that Cheat Engine will work in wine.

 

[CHEMS]

you're so far off beside the point directing that at me, I'd be confused if my theory of mind wasn't as exceptionally great as it is

Here's a point you might understand. This is me, enjoying a Joe's Special just for the fuck of it (not like you'd know cause you can't aford it) along with a nice cigar in my cozy living room. And i didn't even do the Gauntlet and Hopperdrome yet. It's not my fault you're poor! Maybe after you get to level 26 you get your workbenches after you sell 30 hawker pistols.

 

[Ol' Willy]

you need to claim it's the same or pretend that's what my claim is to spread your own guilty feelings of being called out for being a cheatnigger around, drawing false equivalencies between speedhacks for non-shitter purposes and instant vendor refresh to circumvent the game's economy and feat system, but no, they have no share in it, the cross is yours to bear

But there is no difference.

The average Underrail run is 80-120 hours depending on the playstyle and thoroughness. This is roughly 150-200 natural trader refreshes. If we assume that we sell just 5 guns on every trader run, and we do them regularly, this is around 750-1000 guns you can sell in a single playthrough. And while valuable loot is finite, the time is not.

And if you happen upon some point where you really need cash and can't progress forward, but is locked by traders being empty, you know what you can do? You can put the game in the background and do some other stuff while waiting for traders to naturally refresh. You can watch Godfather 2 and gain 4 trader refreshes naturally

This produces the same effect but without any third party software

 

[Ol' Willy]

you're so far off beside the point directing that at me, I'd be confused if my theory of mind wasn't as exceptionally great as it is

Here's a point you might understand. This is me, enjoying a Joe's Special just for the fuck of it (not like you'd know cause you can't aford it) along with a nice cigar in my cozy living room. And i didn't even do the Gauntlet and Hopperdrome yet. It's not my fault you're poor! Maybe after you get to level 26 you get your workbenches after you sell 30 hawker pistols.

And you didn't sell the beast head to Rista

 

[CHEMS]

Ooops, forgot to light the cigar. I have many of them and i always buy the finest from Oculus since i can afford it

And you didn't sell the beast head to Rista

That's for people who struggle with money and need mercantile feats, they're not like us. We can flex our wealth. Zoners BTFO

 

[normie]

you're so far off beside the point directing that at me, I'd be confused if my theory of mind wasn't as exceptionally great as it is

Here's a point you might understand. This is me, enjoying a Joe's Special just for the fuck of it (not like you'd know cause you can't aford it) along with a nice cigar in my cozy living room. And i didn't even do the Gauntlet and Hopperdrome yet. It's not my fault you're poor! Maybe after you get to level 26 you get your workbenches after you sell 30 hawker pistols.

again, how the fuck are you so confused about what the conversation is that all you got out of it was "economy is hard for me"?
at least the cheatnigger alpha is flailing on topic

And if you happen upon some point where you really need cash and can't progress forward, but is locked by traders being empty, you know what you can do? You can put the game in the background and do some other stuff while waiting for traders to naturally refresh. You can watch Godfather 2 and gain 4 trader refreshes naturally

This produces the same effect but without any third party software

this is your brain on Cheat Engine
"you need instant refresh and infinite inventory or else you have to watch Godfather to progress the game, so I'm entitled to CE"

 

[CHEMS]

again, how the fuck are you so confused about what the conversation is that all you got out of it was "economy is hard for me"?

You're throwing a tantrum because you can't accept that people can afford everything in the game without mercantile feats. "If you can do it you must be cheating", you're even pulled out of your ass that i'm using the cheat engine, lol

Knowing to take advantage of good value/weight ratio of loot it's pretty much standard for most RPGs, you should try it

 

[jackofshadows]

this is your brain on Cheat Engine

No that's just common sense. I've started using refresh after quick realization that I was doing that anyway by alt-tab. Like when you want to prepare to DC or craft your first proper rifle etc etc. Either to sell stuff or to get stuff. For selling stuff like guys already mentioned you can just better manage your loot by dropping it next to rifts, repairing/crafting etc. That's not particularly fun activity though either way so I prefer to engage with it as little as possible. But to get stuff sometimes your best bet is to go to Constantine over and over again. And one time I said fuck it I wanna play the damn game already not to lounge around him (or other vendors) and going alt-tab. If you are really OK playing with clearly sub-optimal gear I guess I salute you but to me it's annoying as shit thing to do.

 

[CHEMS]

this is your brain on Cheat Engine

No that's just common sense. I've started using refresh after quick realization that I was doing that anyway by alt-tab. Like when you want to prepare to DC or craft your first proper rifle etc etc. Either to sell stuff or to get stuff. For selling stuff like guys already mentioned you can just better manage your loot by dropping it next to rifts, repairing/crafting etc. That's not particularly fun activity though either way so I prefer to engage with it as little as possible. But to get stuff sometimes your best bet is to go to Constantine over and over again. And one time I said fuck it I wanna play the damn game already not to lounge around him (or other vendors) and going alt-tab. If you are really OK playing with clearly sub-optimal gear I guess I salute you but to me it's annoying as shit thing to do.

Using CE is alright if you're going for a specific gimmicky build (Ciclop Eye, Unprojector, Stilts etc). Those things have around 1% to spawn in inventories, so even with instant refresh they're hard to come by.

The whole discussion is dumb, really. It's a single player game, not a online competitive one.

 

[normie]

You're throwing a tantrum because you can't accept that people can afford everything in the game without mercantile feats.

that's retarded
the issue is cheatniggers circumventing the game's mechanics to get the benefits of the mercantile feats and then shit talking the mercantile feats while addressing people who are not cheatniggers - that's the issue
read the sentence again and again until you stop being confused
it's simple cheatnigger hypocrisy that's being addressed, you're completely out of pocket carrying water for this shit

"If you can do it you must be cheating", you're even pulled out of your ass that i'm using the cheat engine, lol

that was a joke, most everything is, I won't throw jokes your way in the future, you get confused

this is your brain on Cheat Engine

No that's just common sense. I've started using refresh after quick realization that I was doing that anyway by alt-tab. Like when you want to prepare to DC or craft your first proper rifle etc etc. Either to sell stuff or to get stuff. For selling stuff like guys already mentioned you can just better manage your loot by dropping it next to rifts, repairing/crafting etc. That's not particularly fun activity though either way so I prefer to engage with it as little as possible. But to get stuff sometimes your best bet is to go to Constantine over and over again. And one time I said fuck it I wanna play the damn game already not to lounge around him (or other vendors) and going alt-tab. If you are really OK playing with clearly sub-optimal gear I guess I salute you but to me it's annoying as shit thing to do.

you're just a blameless cheatnigger minding your own business, you're not declaring what's a good feat or not and handing out cheatnigger fruits from the cheatnigger tree
you can keep it that way

 

[Cryomancer]

I don't get why people like to dictate how other people should play their SP games. Want to not take any merchant feat? Do it. Want to take all feats and RP a merchant wanting to hoard as much money as possible with zero in game benefit? Do it. Want to use CE? Use it. Don't want to use CE? Don't use it. Want to play in easy and cheat? Do it. Want to play in domination with a gimmicky pure RP build, no merchants, no heal, no grenades challenge? do it. Have fun.

 

[CHEMS]

no heal

Finally, the diabetic build can shine

 

[jackofshadows]

I don't get why people like to dictate how other people should play their SP games. Want to not take any merchant feat? Do it. Want to take all feats and RP a merchant wanting to hoard as much money as possible with zero in game benefit? Do it. Want to use CE? Use it. Don't want to use CE? Don't use it. Want to play in easy and cheat? Do it. Want to play in domination with a gimmicky pure RP build, no merchants, no heal, no grenades challenge? do it. Have fun.

Autism. By the way that evasion flame was fun as hell. This - not so much.

you're just a blameless cheatnigger minding your own business, you're not declaring what's a good feat or not and handing out cheatnigger fruits from the cheatnigger tree

Except trade-related feats suck huge shlong either way. I could say that long before I started using vendor refresh. Would be cool to have something "vendors will have +50 quality materials than usual" - now that would be viable.

 

[normie]

Except trade-related feats suck huge shlong either way.

stop using vendor refresh, then, stupid, because you're hooked on the same qol mercantile perks provide
vendor refresh suuuuuuuuuuuuucks, it sucks so bad, man, you said, so just stop it
carry weight limit sucks too, right? stop making it infinite when you need to, pack rathound suuuuuuuucks, what a stupid perk - if my inventory was empty, it wouldn't be full, so actually my inventory limit should be infinity because when I want it to be zero, it could be zero, so all the time I'm over-encumbered shouldn't actually exist because I could drop the weight whenever I want to, thus it should be infinity, makes sense to me

"hey, newbies, pack rathound suuuuuuuuuucks! I know, because I'm a cheatnigger!"

that's the thing with cheatniggers - you all tell stories about why you're not actually a cheatnigger, you're just cheating because the design is bad, actually you're bugfixing, Styg didn't even know what he was making when he was making it, you know better

 

[Ol' Willy]

I don't get why people like to dictate how other people should play their SP games. Want to not take any merchant feat? Do it. Want to take all feats and RP a merchant wanting to hoard as much money as possible with zero in game benefit? Do it. Want to use CE? Use it. Don't want to use CE? Don't use it. Want to play in easy and cheat? Do it. Want to play in domination with a gimmicky pure RP build, no merchants, no heal, no grenades challenge? do it. Have fun.

The issue is not only that, but the fact that normietard is objectively wrong while being extremely obnoxious about it. If you want lotsa money, Disassemble easily outclasses both mercantile feats, long-term by a big shot, short-term in a lesser way. It's easy to prove

 

[PrK]

I agree both with the the autists and the cheatniggers: trade-related feats feel underwhelming and vendor refresh is lame and gay. Also it's a single player game so chill your tits.

 

[normie]

I don't get why people like to dictate how other people should play their SP games. Want to not take any merchant feat? Do it. Want to take all feats and RP a merchant wanting to hoard as much money as possible with zero in game benefit? Do it. Want to use CE? Use it. Don't want to use CE? Don't use it. Want to play in easy and cheat? Do it. Want to play in domination with a gimmicky pure RP build, no merchants, no heal, no grenades challenge? do it. Have fun.

The issue is not only that, but the fact that normietard is objectively wrong while being extremely obnoxious about it. If you want lotsa money, Disassemble easily outclasses both mercantile feats, long-term by a big shot, short-term in a lesser way. Its easy to prove

yes, argue a completely irrelevant thing nobody has disputed

all irrelevant to you and how you play, though - you get the benefits of all of them while only investing in one thing, it's the cheatnigger way

 

[Ol' Willy]

yes, argue a completely irrelevant thing nobody has disputed

You did, few posts ago. Something about smut or glut or whatever

The memory is really bad without the pills today?

 

[Ol' Willy]

stop using vendor refresh, then, stupid, because you're hooked on the same qol mercantile perks provide

You avoid addressing der Elefant in the room since both of mercantile feats do nothing to help you buy the components you want.

In fact, this is where Disassemble once again shines since you can easily rapeplace parts with the better ones once you get them

 

[Ol' Willy]

By the way that evasion flame was fun as hell. This - not so much.

I forgot, what it was all about exactly?

 

[normie]

yes, argue a completely irrelevant thing nobody has disputed

You did, few posts ago. Something about smut or glut or whatever

The memory is really bad without the pills today?

yes, disassemble produces an excess of goods to sell at peak quality, it's very lucrative, exasperating the problems of limited demand if you're compelled to sell or exchange it all for goods - my disagreement with you is what?

You avoid addressing der Elefant in the room since both of mercantile feats do nothing to help you buy the components you want.

what's there to address? I'm not a cheatnigger, so I don't approve of it and neither do I buy it as the rationale

In fact, this is where Disassemble once again shines since you can easily rapeplace parts with the better ones once you get them

stop tutorialising, disassemble isn't some hidden trick you discovered the use cases for, it's just annoying, your textwalls are full of this schoolmarmish shit

 

[Ol' Willy]

Before taking pills

NO, you lying CHEATNIGGER - disassemble creates a glut because you aren't recycling less valuable items to repair high value items to make better use of the weight to value economy, relative to what you can reasonably carry
this is all foreign to you, because you are a disassembling CHEATNIGGER who creates A GLUT of items you can only rationally sell using vendor refresh and now talking about it like it's some great universal for everybody
NO, it's cheatnigger shit for CHEATNIGGERS

After taking pills

yes, disassemble produces an excess of goods to sell at peak quality, it's very lucrative, exasperating the problems of limited demand if you're compelled to sell or exchange it all for goods - my disagreement with you is what?

 

[normie]

Before taking pills

NO, you lying CHEATNIGGER - disassemble creates a glut because you aren't recycling less valuable items to repair high value items to make better use of the weight to value economy, relative to what you can reasonably carry
this is all foreign to you, because you are a disassembling CHEATNIGGER who creates A GLUT of items you can only rationally sell using vendor refresh and now talking about it like it's some great universal for everybody
NO, it's cheatnigger shit for CHEATNIGGERS

After taking pills

yes, disassemble produces an excess of goods to sell at peak quality, it's very lucrative, exasperating the problems of limited demand if you're compelled to sell or exchange it all for goods - my disagreement with you is what?

I'm saying the exact same thing and this time giving you no room to hide behind how crazily I'm saying it
my disagreement with you is what?

 

[Mauman]

Also it's a single player game so chill your tits.

That would require spergs to not sperg, and all evidence suggests that this is impossible.

 

[Ryzer]

Every time I played Underrail, I could not stomach the beginning of the game. The quests are so boring in all categories: turn 3 lights on (mandatory), deliver a package (uhhhh), capture some macthingy (mandatory and bland), rescue some random bumfuck (mandatory), repair the camera or else. I get it the game opens at Depot A and after but this is like 8 levels of pure concentrated boredom. In fact what would be great, would be a save that instantly starts after Depot A because finally the game opens and become interesting (although barely).