Delterius
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You fools. A true Bloodlines experience hangs on a technically broken experience.
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Prime Junta
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Wesp already ruined that for everybody.
Zorba the Hutt
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Malkavian.
pippin
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Michael Kirkbride is a Malk. MCA is a Toreador, I agree with that.
Old One
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The way to do a new Bloodlines is as a prequel set in 1940s L.A. That would probably coincide with the first time the Anarchs threw the Camarilla out of L.A., and many of the same characters would be present at that time: Isaac, Gary, and Nines, for instance.
But nuParadox will disappoint with this, so it's all academic.
But nuParadox will disappoint with this, so it's all academic.
No medieval please.
Delterius
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Come on people. The modern urban setting is one of major things that make Bloodlines so unique.
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One of the best things about Bloodlines was the setting and how they were able to make the world come alive right down to those television broadcasts with the newscaster voiced by Brian, himself. Stuff like that would be lost in a medieval setting.
Prime Junta
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No medieval stuff plz.
I could dig a dieselpunk/noir VtM though. PC is a P.I., Keane "Tomcat" Carson, on a tough case that gets darker and weirder than he could ever have imagined. The first act ends with his death and embrace. He rises as a fledgling, and learns that his case leads deep into the World of Darkness and has profound repercussions on Kindred society. His sire commands him to continue his investigation...
This structure would allow for something that was almost nonexistent in VtM:B -- the interplay of Kindred and mortal society. Since Keane's character and background will have been established in the first act there will be opportunities for him to interact with and/or observe characters and places important to his mortal life. VtM:B only had that one brief out-of-the-blue encounter in Hollywood; this could make it a whole theme.
How 'bout it, Paradox?
I could dig a dieselpunk/noir VtM though. PC is a P.I., Keane "Tomcat" Carson, on a tough case that gets darker and weirder than he could ever have imagined. The first act ends with his death and embrace. He rises as a fledgling, and learns that his case leads deep into the World of Darkness and has profound repercussions on Kindred society. His sire commands him to continue his investigation...
This structure would allow for something that was almost nonexistent in VtM:B -- the interplay of Kindred and mortal society. Since Keane's character and background will have been established in the first act there will be opportunities for him to interact with and/or observe characters and places important to his mortal life. VtM:B only had that one brief out-of-the-blue encounter in Hollywood; this could make it a whole theme.
How 'bout it, Paradox?
Ahhh, the good old premade, fully voiced PC. Because Witcher series and Fallout 4 proved that not being able to make your own character made "RPGs" better. My D1P just turned into DNP.*
*Do not play
Delterius
Arcane
Your clan is all characterization you need.
No, seriously. Did you see all the witty dialogue options in Bloodlines? Its like a window to Baldurs Gate.
No, seriously. Did you see all the witty dialogue options in Bloodlines? Its like a window to Baldurs Gate.
ZagorTeNej
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I'd say it depends on the execution and the type of storytelling you're going for. It's not like CRPG is a well defined genre with strict rules and guidelines, it nearly always incorporates elements from other genres and combines them with stats and character progression.
You're saying you couldn't imagine playing as Garrett in an RPG set in Thief universe for example? Or having the Nameless One as a set protagonist detracted from the experience of playing PST?
Prime Junta
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Suit yourself. I like both kinds of PC's, blank-slate and pre-made. Each offers different possibilities. In a narrative-heavy game such as VtM:B though, I think pre-made is the better option on balance though (cf. PS:T).
Delterius
Arcane
I beg to differ. A blank slate protagonist is a stylistic choice that worked very well in a game like Bloodlines, that is more so about the characters and factions you meet than your own personality. Leave fully voiced protagonists to BioWare's soap operas, which is where it works best.
Prime Junta
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Funny how everyone should latch on the premade thing in that elevator pitch of mine, just because I gave the PC a name. It didn't even occur to me consider whether he's fully voiced or not.
No need to give the PC a background beyond what's established in Act 1 (he's a P:I working on a case). The choices he makes in it could determine the bloodline of his sire -- act all stealthy and investigative, Nosferatu; pull strings and browbeat people, Ventrue; delve into occult lore, Tremere; punch the shit out of people, Brujah, and so on.
So you could easily make that work with a protagonist that's almost as blank-slate as in VtM:B.
(Now that it came up though, I do think it a premade PC would work well for a VtM game. A Bloodlines successor doesn't have to copy the original in every way.)
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Starting as a mortal and becoming a vampire at end of Act 1 could be cool. On the other hand, nobody really liked being a non-Jedi at start of Kotor 1.
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VtM:R was cool in medieval times, soooo. It's not about the setting, it's about the themes which are explored and how they are explored. You can be a vampire in the Inquisition, how's that for moral dilemmas?
If all you have is the setting (alla Morrowind) then sure, being generic is not desirable, but if you have coherent, motivated and well-written characters and locales then you can get away with a medieval setting.
If all you have is the setting (alla Morrowind) then sure, being generic is not desirable, but if you have coherent, motivated and well-written characters and locales then you can get away with a medieval setting.
Delterius
Arcane
Of course, you can make anything interesting but it just so happens that the urban-gothic try hardy setting is a big part of the appeal for a lot of people. I'd say most of the fanbase, even.
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Re-registering doesn't come with big lawyer bills, your pet monkey could basically fill out the form. It's the initial application that can be difficult. Only expense is the fee, which I think is anywhere between 100 and 400 shekels for the US. International extensions are cheaper.
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