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Vapourware Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - vaporware VTMB sequel from Paradox Interactive

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by vortex, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    I do enjoy posting doom-and-gloom Glassdoor reviews about this company.

    I'm puzzled how this guy put "easy job interview" as a pro and then followed it up with "Actually it's too easy, needs to be harder and more thorough" and "Most devs directly working on project are great" followed by "devs making an RPG with little experience," "growing nepotism," and "system design skills weak." What makes them great then? I suppose maybe the artists have it together.
     
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  2. PulsatingBrain Huge and Ever-Growing Patron

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    I guess you can be glad that you got in easily, but also recognise that it's ultimately a negative aspect of the company.
     
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  3. Duraframe300 Arcane

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    Yeah, that's how I read it too.
     
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  4. Dycedarg Novice

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    When this person says they're great, he probably means he likes them as people, not as professionals. If you're wanting to gain some experience, collect your paycheck and don't really care where the project is going, this sounds like a good place to work. But it's funny that most people leaving sound exasperated with the leadership.
     
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  5. Xelocix Educated

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    This is easily the most unsurprising thing I've read all year so far. It basically just highlights all of the problems that've been hinted at over the past year or two and confirms them.

    As for how bipolar/contradictory the pros + cons are, I think it's probably due to this person having Stockholm Syndrome if Hardsuit Labs hired them in the middle of the current """pandemic""". They probably couldn't land a job for months due to how hard the gaming industry has been hit by this shit, and now feel a sense of gratitude to the company as a result. I think it's likely that Hardsuit fired a bunch of people when Covid began, but the game fell drastically behind schedule as a result so they panic-hired new employees once they started receiving financial aid. It would explain their complete lack of care for hiring actual talent, how quickly they've been burning through employees, and all of the Ubisoft whip-crackers they've brought in to speed development up.
     
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  6. snoek Augur

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    autistic neckbeards living off that sweet gubmint money
     
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  7. HansDampf Arcane

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    I bet this won't reflect in the narrative at all.
     
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  8. Takamori Learned

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    At this point we are just here to watch the plane crash, because the flames and smoke are visible from miles away. Any of you gonna risk on this?
    If they manage to put this product on the shelf
     
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  9. Xelocix Educated

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    Risk wasting my money? Fuck no. Risk wasting my time? Maybe...if you catch my drift.
     
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  10. typical user Arbiter

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    Can someone please give a TL;DR what is happening with this game and why is it compared to a plane bursting in flames nosediving at tremendous speed?
     
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  11. Caim Arcane

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    Pretty much everyone who does anything for the game gets replaced every few months or so, meaning that the game has no consistent direction or vision behind it.
     
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  12. typical user Arbiter

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    This is old news, but are you sure lead game designers outside Mitsoda are swapped too? I feel bad for him and Avellone, the trailers for this game and Dying Light 2 when they were around were promising. I just hope their ideas won't get butchered but expanded upon if devs don't want to credit them.
     
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  13. ChildInTime Learned

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    The lead writer now is a woman who wrote Andromeda and posts shit on twitter like - "Haha entitled white supremacist males". There won't be any ideas left from either Mitsoda or Avellone. In fact there won't be any ideas at all, except npcs shouting trans rights or something.
     
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  14. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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    Same as anything else I have an interest in. I'll look at reviews and YouTube gameplay footage and decide if it's worth the $ for the best deal I can find. [​IMG]
     
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  15. Zer0wing Cipher

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    This is why CryEngine is the patrician choice for game development. This and that CryEngine is an equivalent of aircraft industry (in its infancy) - the engineer is the pilot and the first beta tester. If it fails, it drags you down too.
     
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  16. Eli_Havelock Learned

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    HSL/PDX said Avellone's work isn't in, and then there was something about STILL looking for a Lead Game Designer familiar with RPG mechanics. Both companies have since morally purified everyone else who might have anything close to those experience requirements, so they're having to rely on useful idiot nepotism hires like Eric Waananen to be Sr. Designers as he pulls another Fantastic from New Vegas. You might remember his "talent" from this sunking ship of a re-skinned ARK.

    HSL/PDX have also brought in a Ubisoft wrap-up specialist to cut and box what can be used; this has gone from dumpster fire on a jet plane to full-on Detroit fire.

    When Damsel was shown off as an exciting character reveal everyone was reassured this was in good hands.
     
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  17. compvet24 Educated

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  18. Burning Bridges Enviado de meu SM-G3502T usando Tapatalk

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    I don't know exactly how it relates to English but here "he tried to give his best" or "he is a nice guy" are about the worst things you can write in an appraisal. It basically means, he started working for us and would never leave on his own accord.
     
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  19. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    RPG Wokedex Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    ?? Opposite of reality.
     
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  20. Eli_Havelock Learned

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    Just a reminder for what now passes as a Narrative Lead for this game.

    Fiction: Equity for everyone!
    Reality: Maybe diversity hires should have more qualifications than their skin color/gender/what they fuck, and if they want the qualifications for the good jobs they need to work up from the bottom and do good work like everyone else had to in order to advance. Expecting to fail to success through nepotism and filling diversity quotas is only going to shortcut millions of dollars down the drain, and stockholders hate that even more.
     
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  21. Dycedarg Novice

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    Did she work for Hardsuit Labs before becoming Narrative Lead? If the answer is no, then she probably knows almost nothing about the game she will now coordinate.
     
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  22. Eli_Havelock Learned

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    Nope. And that segues right into: why was Eric Waananen hired as Sr. Designer in her world? According to her standards, as a white male he must have been hired because he likes dick, thus elevating him to a special protected class. I'm not going to judge him on that if it's his thing, don't even know it is, but being hired obviously wasn't for his "Lead Designer" work on ATLAS (the pirate-themed ARK reskin) or his intern work before then. HSL are still listing that Lead Designer position, which he probably would have snagged if he was a bit more... Rudi, so they could wave him around like how STUNNING and BRAVE they all were and how much diversitalent they collectively have on their team for Twitterati/Polygon photo ops.

    Also telling is how Lead and Sr. Producer positions are still open. I mean, who the fuck needs to actually make anything when you can sit around in a virtue circlejerk and milk Paradox moneys like the Romeros? Empire of Daikatana was such a mail-in of a reskinned XCOM.
     
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  23. Dycedarg Novice

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    At this point I don't know if this game will even come out. Sure, the company seems like an SJW hugbox, but even the likes of Bioware are able to eventually release their (broken) games. It honestly seems like a scam, as if HSL are trying to bleed Paradox of all the money they can. How long did it take for this person to understand what the previous team had done with the main story, worldbuilding or sidequests? The game was supposed to be released last year, and even now HSL has less than 1 year to complete the project.
     
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  24. Harry Easter Savant

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    I don't think we need to be afraid of the innocent (*snicker*) Paradoxguys getting sucked dry. If it turns out a wreck, they can cut it for taxes or something.

    And there were projects that looked more catastrophic and then turned out good. In the end we have to wait. It will probably turn out just alright. A bit buggy here, not special there. Just alright. And if sales are stable there will be at least more Bloodlines - porn on Rule34.
     
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  25. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    They fired their celebrity writers and replaced them with cheap never-beens, haven't had a lead designer in months, and a bunch of people are posting on glassdoor talking about how upper management has no idea what they're doing and turn-over is sky high and you think there are more catastrophic projects? Are you a Hardsuit employee?
     
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