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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

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In terms of style and writing, I'd give it to Failbetter Games.
 

Eli_Havelock

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Lord almighty, did they hire Duke Nukem Forever developers to make this?

You're onto something there:

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I was wondering where the infinity symbol fit into things.
 
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What happened with Magna Mundi?

Modder drama is a fair summary but a bunch of modders turned dev spent months arguing that their game was perfectly on track and would be ready for release even as Paradox was coming to the realisation the chap leading the project was a fantasist and the game they were pretending to make was unplayable in every sense. Chap's family ended up having to get him put into a mental institution because he's so delusional. Surprise ending is that it turns out he doesn't have a mental health issue, he's just a bullshitter. Not sure if he's still planning to take Paradox through the European courts for, so he claims, signing over the ownership rights to their game engines to him or not.
 

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Whoever said "non-consenting Kindred" was onto something, I think. In the latest version of VtM, vampires will be polite good bois who dindu nuffin and ask for consent. Didn't Lestat do that in Interview? That's homoerotic enough to be palatable to the woke.
Louis, not Lestat.
 

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Whoever said "non-consenting Kindred" was onto something, I think. In the latest version of VtM, vampires will be polite good bois who dindu nuffin and ask for consent. Didn't Lestat do that in Interview? That's homoerotic enough to be palatable to the woke.
Louis, not Lestat.
"I'm going to give you the choice I never had." Something like that's Lestat's line. I didn't remember it before.
 

Tao

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Whoever said "non-consenting Kindred" was onto something, I think. In the latest version of VtM, vampires will be polite good bois who dindu nuffin and ask for consent. Didn't Lestat do that in Interview? That's homoerotic enough to be palatable to the woke.
Louis, not Lestat.
"I'm going to give you the choice I never had." Something like that's Lestat's line. I didn't remember it before.
Dude, it's not even close to be the same.

Lestat was toying around. He is a whimsical character not a human right activist, wtf are you talking about xd

Besides in the books is Marius who sire that writer. The movie took a few licenses.

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lycanwarrior

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You people should cool it with mocking comments, think of every poor consumer who preordered this game for the stop sign

Taking this time to appreciate the comedy of Paradox putting up a stop sign as a preorder bonus while the devs themselves talked about how the stop sign dialogue was insensitive to the mentally ill and they weren't going to include anything like that. P'dox should take this time to consider which direction they want to go in.

I think Spiders/Cyanide have top tier writers, they're just operating within the constraints of what little resources they have. I'd love to see them get a shot at a huge title like this (though I imagine they'll just hand it to Harebrained).

I imagine Cyanide's in the doghouse now on account of Earthblood doing so poorly. The writing was also received quite poorly here.

Oh yeah,they will give it to those sjws for sure. Which is really stupid because they won't be able to do a third person open world rpg for sure. Their forte is making top down TB rpgs with trannies in them. It will be a huge mess if they give it to harebraindead.

Before Bloodlines, Troika had only ever done pseudo-isometric turnbased RPGs and they had never worked with Source before (or anyone else for that matter). I'd have more faith in them shipping a decent RPG than any other Paradox-owned studio. That being said, I doubt it's going to them.

Is there a source regarding Earthblood? Not that it would be shocking if it did poorly but still...
 
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Is there a source regarding Earthblood? Not that it would be shocking if it did poorly but still...

At least the Metacritic ratings are not good: https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/werewolf-the-apocalypse---earthblood
In a world where you can pick up The Last of Us Remastered for a song, there’s no reason to waste your time on Earthblood.
This is a deeply average game reminiscent of cheap B-movies,
From story to visuals to level design, the game feels outdated
video game jo*rnalists
 

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I am hopeful we will have a thread along the lines of "Why did Sirotek go bankrupt" several years from now on Bloodlines 2. I want to know the leadup to taking Hardsuit Labs off development. It blows my mind for something reason, especially the press release and how it struggled to put a semi-positive spin on this development.

Off topic, but I am reminded of that retro space horror game Routine, where the developer went AWOL.
 

Eli_Havelock

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I am hopeful we will have a thread along the lines of "Why did Sirotek go bankrupt" several years from now on Bloodlines 2. I want to know the leadup to taking Hardsuit Labs off development. It blows my mind for something reason, especially the press release and how it struggled to put a semi-positive spin on this development.

Off topic, but I am reminded of that retro space horror game Routine, where the developer went AWOL.

This reminds me of Paranoia: Crappiness is Mandatory, except that actually got to see the light of a few days before being taken out back and given the Old Yeller happy ending.
 

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We still have utterly no clue as to why Mitsoda got sacked, right?
We were not there, but I'm not particularly into the mindset that it's always the evil publisher fucking with the good guy dev.

It's not completely out of the question that he was fairly shitty at doing his job, you know
So shitty we have the original Bloodlines to prove it! Wait-
 

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Whoever said "non-consenting Kindred" was onto something, I think. In the latest version of VtM, vampires will be polite good bois who dindu nuffin and ask for consent. Didn't Lestat do that in Interview? That's homoerotic enough to be palatable to the woke.
Louis, not Lestat.
"I'm going to give you the choice I never had." Something like that's Lestat's line. I didn't remember it before.
Dude, it's not even close to be the same.

Lestat was toying around. He is a whimsical character not a human right activist, wtf are you talking about xd

Besides in the books is Marius who sire that writer. The movie took a few licenses.

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I'm sorry I failed a lore roll for your favorite homosexual vampire thriller.
 

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No Mitsoda, no Bloodlines.

I don't see them hiring him back, so it's dead. Irreversible damage to the brand and the game. I have no interest in playing the salvage operation of Mitsoda's game. His characters are what made the original good.

They'd better call whatever game they make something else than Bloodlines.

Mitsoda's the guy who wrote the terribly bland Dead State and insisted that they hire Cara Ellison. His abilities as a writer have deteriorated considerably since 2004.
What we know is that Mitsoda needs a good team to perform, he's not that great when on his own. Aside from that, we can't conclude.
 

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Just listened to an interview with that female writer - an older one, of course - where she has a pouting fit over the fact that the translation team told her to stop putting genderqueer pronouns into the game, since only fucking English acknowledges those fantasies, and it's impossible to implement them into other languages. Apparently other languages aren't progressive enough. Racist.


https://www.rebind.io/the-rebind-po...on-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-ii-4799/
 

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