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Vapourware Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - vaporware VTMB sequel from Paradox Interactive

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by vortex, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Back when bloodlines 2 died I listened to a bunch of those 'la by night' videos while playing Victoria 2. Funnily enough, the stance of the players / white wolf in there is to low key call Therese out for being a sex negative prude towards her sister. Which makes sense since the whole thing revolves around an Anarch coterie and the Therese player didn't even try to hide her frenemy tendencies. Which I guess is on brand as well.
     
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  2. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    I've been looking into this and apparently it was something posted on a gaming leaks discord? Some 'cord-savvy person should infiltrate and take a screen capture of the actual specifics.

    I took a look at their career page and there's no giveaway, but there are some descriptions that kinda/sorta might fit.

    Could just be something else entirely of course.
     
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  3. Generic-Giant-Spider Arcane

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    No no my cock disagrees.
     
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  4. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    I've done even more digging and still haven't found any smoking guns, but I have found some things that would contribute to the apophenia.

    First item: Back in February, when Hardsuit got the boot, they posted about how they were ramping up for a big project they're really enthused about
    https://twitter.com/danpinchbeck/status/1356908621561540612
    https://twitter.com/ChineseRoom/status/1364905792894349314
    Second item: In April, they hired a QA story guy from Bioware to be a "principal narrative designer" https://www.linkedin.com/in/arone-le-bray/

    Third item: In July they had Josh Sawyer give a one-hour talk to the studio. Not even Infinitron was aware of this!



    Can't be bothered to watch it of course. Once again, this could all end up being nothing. :M
     
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  5. Greek Anime God Learned

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    The Chinese Room have no experience making larger games like this. Do people think Paradox would make the same mistake twice in handing the project over to an inexperienced and incompetent studio and hoping that throwing money on them would magically help them make a fully fledged RPG?
     
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  6. T.Ashpool Learned

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    i think they might be able to hire an experienced studio but are paradox eveb in the position to hire a competent developer? there are not that many good studios out there and who knows how much money paraodox is willing to spend on a project that has already swallowed so many resources for years.
    basically they need to find someone who

    1. has experience with rpg
    2. is willing to work on a niche franchise
    3. is okay with a pretty small budget

    i can totally see them going for a dev who has only made shitty walking simulators before out of desperation
     
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  7. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    yes
     
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  8. vortex Fabulous Optimist

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    What if Chinesse room lead by Obsidian expertise J.Saywer pulls VTMB2 through. Josh alyways had a thing for V(F)ampyrs.
     
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  9. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Chinese Room, walking simulator devs? Going to be a non-interactive Vampire game then.
     
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  10. fantadomat Arcane Edgy Wumao

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    That is irrelevant really,there is plenty of games that were made by studios with no experience,for example kingdom come. Skilful people is the important part.
     
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  11. Greek Anime God Learned

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    They don't have those either.
     
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  12. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    Paradox's choices are limited because the very small number of developers with experience making games similar to Bloodlines are all owned and/or busy with their own projects. They can't use Obsidian, Eidos Montreal, CD Projekt, Larian, Bioware, Spiders or Piranha Bytes, and Cyanide fell right on their face with the Werewolf game. We all have to start somewhere, and this would be in-line with where they were already headed.

    https://egmnow.com/everybodys-gone-dan-pinchbeck-on-rebuilding-the-chinese-room/
    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...s-ambition-to-move-out-of-the-art-house-niche
    See above, they don't want to make walking sims anymore. :M
     
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  13. vortex Fabulous Optimist

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    "the Naughty Dog of the UK"
    woah, thats high bar there, basically AAAA game
     
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  14. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    its

    going to be

    g r e a t
     
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  15. LarryTyphoid Learned

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    If it's gonna be developed by the Chinese Room, it'll be a 3D version of those shitty text adventure games they made, at best. Expect plenty of romance options!
     
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  16. Harthwain Magister

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    You laugh, but in Vampire the Masquerade combat isn't at the forefront. Social interactions between vampires and upholding a set of norms to maintain the fascade was much more important aspect of it, so I - for one - would appreciate the game putting more emphasis on that. However, the issue lies in how to make the non-combat part of the game interesting for the player. Then again, the same can be said for most games/cRPGs.
     
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  17. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    going to be enjoying the cope when everyone finds out larian is making vtmb2
     
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  18. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    The inevitable success in all future circumstances of VTMB2 is no laughing matter.

    not too bad. it just means fishmalk barrelmancer is a mandatory build.
     
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    LOL. Imagine VtMB2 made by Larian. Turn based isometric perspective. Slow animations, even the weakest vampire can soak 10 shots of 12 gauge dragon breath, a new vampire clan of barrelmancers who are by far the strongest vampire clan, elders who can only use low level disciplines, larian writting... If was up to me, Daniel Vávra would make a VtMB sequel;
     
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  20. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    If Larian had the people to spare for Bloodlines, they would have released Divinity: Fallen Heroes already instead of letting all that work be for nothing. :M
     
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  21. Sitra Achara Arcane Patron

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    Maybe something like Bureau13 then?
     
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  22. Avarize Magister

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    If it was up to me he would make every game.
     
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  23. Meredoth Arcane

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    He would made all First person immersive rpgs.
    And Pierre all turn based tactical rpgs.
     
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  24. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    Close this embarrassment of a thread already.
     
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