Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - turn-based Warhammer 40k RPG from Owlcat Games - now in BETA - coming December 7th

[skaraher]

Official codex up until mid-5th edition, tabletop RPG first edition verse, novels from Abnett and McNeil, including Horus Heresy first three volumes and the Dawn of War games make for a pretty solid continuity, even though it had its share of retcons and inconsistency. The canon took a huge dive toward full retard with Nu-Crons and the Chaos SM rework for 6th edition, and it was basically unsalvageable when Primaris arc started.

Most Horus Heresy are badly written pulp and decline. Dembski-Bowden can actually write, but most of his canon is "muh subverting expectation" and introducing retarded takes on popular figures of the verse + deconstructing it. His Night Lord trilogy was relatively good tho.

 

[jaekl]

Jae had to learn the difference between a handful of gold and a hand full of gold the hard way, but look at her now! When it comes to trade - she has a golden touch, and whenever she gives you a hand - it's worth its weight in gold.

Rename this game to The Zybourne Trader

 

[Robber Baron]

They still haven't explained how will the coop work

 

[Cyberarmy]

They still haven't explained how will the coop work

It won't.

 

[Tyranicon]

Most Horus Heresy are badly written pulp and decline.

My main complaint regarding the HH series is how they reduced the primarchs from legendary figures stolen straight from mythology and antiquity, demi-gods that could not be understood by mere humans to... idiot dudebro man-children.

I know, I know, the primarchs weren't really that fleshed out before HH, and that was a good thing. This isn't really a case of familiarity breeds contempt, or even meeting your heroes.

It's a case of some rando writer trying to get into the mind of Napoleon or Genghis Khan. You can't write with familiarity on a character that's smarter than you.

It's also probably why my characters are always a little dumb.

 

[jaekl]

Write your own Owlcat rogue trader characters

Greg Guntooth

When it comes to teeth, Greg’s teeth are made of guns and his bark sure ain’t worse than his bite!! These teeth ain’t just for simple mastication, they also shoot bullets into your own head and face. Uh oh! Don’t even think about mouthing off to this old timer because he's all out of bubble gum, now he's only chewing through ammo.

 

[skaraher]

Most Horus Heresy are badly written pulp and decline.

My main complaint regarding the HH series is how they reduced the primarchs from legendary figures stolen straight from mythology and antiquity, demi-gods that could not be understood by mere humans to... idiot dudebro man-children.

I know, I know, the primarchs weren't really that fleshed out before HH, and that was a good thing. This isn't really a case of familiarity breeds contempt, or even meeting your heroes.

It's a case of some rando writer trying to get into the mind of Napoleon or Genghis Khan. You can't write with familiarity on a character that's smarter than you.

It's also probably why my characters are always a little dumb.

Only Primarch that appeared directly in 40k verse before the Heresy novels was Angron, and he was more characterized as a near unstoppable force of nature than a human being.

 

[Storyfag]

It's a case of some rando writer trying to get into the mind of Napoleon or Genghis Khan. You can't write with familiarity on a character that's smarter than you.

That is why the original Grand Admiral Thrawn novels had his flag captain as the Imperial POV character. It worked much better.

 

[Jaesun]

Actually have been liking the character art they have showed so far.

 

[Grauken]

My main complaint regarding the HH series is how they reduced the primarchs from legendary figures stolen straight from mythology and antiquity, demi-gods that could not be understood by mere humans to... idiot dudebro man-children.

idiot dudebro man-children fit the setting much better

 

[Tyranicon]

My main complaint regarding the HH series is how they reduced the primarchs from legendary figures stolen straight from mythology and antiquity, demi-gods that could not be understood by mere humans to... idiot dudebro man-children.

idiot dudebro man-children fit the setting much better

There's already an entire xenos race for that.

 

[mediocrepoet]

My main complaint regarding the HH series is how they reduced the primarchs from legendary figures stolen straight from mythology and antiquity, demi-gods that could not be understood by mere humans to... idiot dudebro man-children.

idiot dudebro man-children fit the setting much better

There's already an entire xenos race for that.

By the Emperor's left testicle, you're right!

But 40k as a setting is still inherently goofy whether you're going for moar dakka or not.

WHF was the actual grim setting with just trying to postpone the inevitable.

 

[Owlcat_Eyler]

Write your own Owlcat rogue trader characters

Greg Guntooth

When it comes to teeth, Greg’s teeth are made of guns and his bark sure ain’t worse than his bite!! These teeth ain’t just for simple mastication, they also shoot bullets into your own head and face. Uh oh! Don’t even think about mouthing off to this old timer because he's all out of bubble gum, now he's only chewing through ammo.

Sounds like a useful companion to me. Comes complete with friendly fire but it's not a big deal

 

[Alienman]

Write your own Owlcat rogue trader characters

Greg Guntooth

When it comes to teeth, Greg’s teeth are made of guns and his bark sure ain’t worse than his bite!! These teeth ain’t just for simple mastication, they also shoot bullets into your own head and face. Uh oh! Don’t even think about mouthing off to this old timer because he's all out of bubble gum, now he's only chewing through ammo.

Johnny Swordarm.

Spoiler

Johnny's main attack comes from his dual revolvers. So don't ever think you will be the fastest on the draw meeting Johnny! He is no slouch when it comes to close combat either since his mutation carries a large scimitar to cut up bad guys into tiny meat pieces.

 

[Tyranicon]

Write your own Owlcat rogue trader characters



Greg Guntooth

When it comes to teeth, Greg’s teeth are made of guns and his bark sure ain’t worse than his bite!! These teeth ain’t just for simple mastication, they also shoot bullets into your own head and face. Uh oh! Don’t even think about mouthing off to this old timer because he's all out of bubble gum, now he's only chewing through ammo.

Johnny Swordarm.

Spoiler

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Johnny's main attack comes from his dual revolvers. So don't ever think you will be the fastest on the draw meeting Johnny! He is no slouch when it comes to close combat either since his mutation carries a large scimitar to cut up bad guys into tiny meat pieces.

 

[jaekl]

Write your own Owlcat rogue trader characters



Greg Guntooth

When it comes to teeth, Greg’s teeth are made of guns and his bark sure ain’t worse than his bite!! These teeth ain’t just for simple mastication, they also shoot bullets into your own head and face. Uh oh! Don’t even think about mouthing off to this old timer because he's all out of bubble gum, now he's only chewing through ammo.

Sounds like a useful companion to me. Comes complete with friendly fire but it's not a big deal

You can have that one for free as my gift to you, but if you want to use any more of my valuable intellectual property in your game it will cost your company BIG TIME

 

[CaesarCzech]

It's a case of some rando writer trying to get into the mind of Napoleon or Genghis Khan. You can't write with familiarity on a character that's smarter than you.

That is why the original Grand Admiral Thrawn novels had his flag captain as the Imperial POV character. It worked much better.

Zahn can also not only write but is clever guy so second person view + smart writer that doesnt have to portray thrawns throught but only his actions and occasionally his logic as he simplifies it and explains it to subordinates makes for neat combo.

Like this "

“It is said that one should keep one's allies within view, and one's enemies within reach.
A valid statement. One must be able to read an ally's strengths, so as to determine how to best use them. One must similarly be able to read his enemy's weaknesses, so as to determine how to best defeat him.
But what of friends?
There is no accepted answer, perhaps true friendship is so exceedingly rare. But I had formulated my own.
A friend need not be kept within sight or within reach. A friend must be allowed the freedom to find and follow his own path. If one is fortunate, those paths will for a time join. But if paths separate, it is comforting to know that a friend still graces the universe with his skills, and his viewpoint, and his present. For if one is remembered by a friend, one is never truly gone.”"


Legit sounds like philosopher quote

 

[Owlcat_Eyler]

Write your own Owlcat rogue trader characters



Greg Guntooth

When it comes to teeth, Greg’s teeth are made of guns and his bark sure ain’t worse than his bite!! These teeth ain’t just for simple mastication, they also shoot bullets into your own head and face. Uh oh! Don’t even think about mouthing off to this old timer because he's all out of bubble gum, now he's only chewing through ammo.

Sounds like a useful companion to me. Comes complete with friendly fire but it's not a big deal

You can have that one for free as my gift to you, but if you want to use any more of my valuable intellectual property in your game it will cost your company BIG TIME

What payment would do you prefer? Smuggled xeno-artifacts? Decommissioned purity seals? Or just money?
Or maybe teeth...?

 

[The_Mask]

What payment would do you prefer?

A healthy hug from a certain sister of battle. :D

 

[Owlcat_Eyler]

What payment would do you prefer?

A healthy hug from a certain sister of battle. :D

Umm, we can't afford that kind of fee, you're asking literally too much

 

[Karwelas]

I will not bang Sister of Battle.
I will pick Benevolentia and save citizens of Empire like Emperor wished.
I will fuck over Chaos and shit at their face.
I will laugh at the usual rigid grimderp of setting and twist it how I wish for my vision.
How?
I am main character, that is how.

 

[ArchAngel]

Guys, to truly understand why people fall for Chaos, you must understand the corrupting influence of Trump, Putin and their disinformation attacks. Only then will you be able to fully side with the Imperium.

And I was just about to mention how Antifa/BLM riots in USA were perfect example of how Chaos takes over but you beat me with this crazy anti example

 

[Irxy]

Guys, to truly understand why people fall for Chaos, you must understand the corrupting influence of Trump, Putin and their disinformation attacks. Only then will you be able to fully side with the Imperium.

And I was just about to mention how Antifa/BLM riots in USA were perfect example of how Chaos takes over but you beat me with this crazy anti example

It's not anti, they are simply following different Chaos gods.

 

[ArchAngel]

Guys, to truly understand why people fall for Chaos, you must understand the corrupting influence of Trump, Putin and their disinformation attacks. Only then will you be able to fully side with the Imperium.

And I was just about to mention how Antifa/BLM riots in USA were perfect example of how Chaos takes over but you beat me with this crazy anti example

It's not anti, they are simply following different Chaos gods.

Chaos Gods that call for Law and Order and following the Rules?! It sounds more like Imperium than Chaos.

 

[Peachcurl]

Chaos Gods that call for Law and Order and following the Rules?! It sounds more like Imperium than Chaos.

Chaos doesn't really mean 'literal' Chaos. Nurgle has some aspects that relate to order.