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What if we split the Codex into two sites: RPG Codex + Political Codex?

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by DarkUnderlord, Apr 14, 2021.

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What do you think about splitting the politics out to a separate stand-alone website + forums?

  1. Over my dead body

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  2. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA

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  3. kingcomrade

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  1. DarkUnderlord Professional Throne Sitter

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    Recent global geopolitical events along with our generally more lazy approach to "free speech" (or at least more free speech than other places give you), have resulted in a steady rise of political discussion here on the RPG Codex. To the extent that some have recently expressed concern that the RPG aspect is being lost in the politics.

    Statistics show that since 1 Jan 2020, there have been 786,320 new posts made on the Codex. This represents 11% of the total 7,077,829 posts made in the entire 19 year history of the Codex.

    Of those 786,320 posts:

    262,124 (33%) in the various RPG forums (including News & Content, and Developer / Hosted sub-forums)
    222,040 (28%) in Off-Topic Forums (excluding Politics)
    184,209 (23%) in Politics, God & The Wealth of Nations and its two sub-forums
    116,610 (15%) in the General Gaming forums
    1,337 (0%) in Administration which oddly, happened entirely by chance

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    Of note, as a single forum, Politics out performs every other individual forum, including GD. If you include the two sub-forums, it out-performs GD by almost 50,000 posts. This is despite the requirement that to even see the forum, you must have been a member for at least 12 months.

    The List (open)
    Posts Forum %
    136,802 Politics, God & The Wealth of Nations 17%
    130,531 General Discussion 17%
    95,686 General RPG Discussion 12%
    59,765 General Gaming 8%
    45,406 MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN 6%
    34,909 Codex Public Library 4%
    29,094 Owlcat Games 4%
    27,988 Retardo Land 4%
    24,090 Larian Studios 3%
    22,820 CD Projekt Red 3%
    20,235 jRPG Weeaboo Discussion 3%
    16,610 Gaming Drama 2%
    15,598 Strategy and Simulation 2%
    14,994 News & Content Feedback 2%
    10,739 Site Feedback 1%
    10,732 SCIENCE!! 1%
    10,311 Obsidian Entertainment 1%
    7,410 BioWare 1%
    7,294 Codex Playground 1%
    7,244 MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion 1%
    6,809 The Gazebo 1%
    5,101 Tactical Gaming 1%
    4,937 Underrail 1%
    4,850 Bethesda Game Studios 1%
    4,357 Choose Your Own Adventure Land 1%
    4,217 Adventure Gaming 1%
    3,559 inXile Entertainment 0%
    3,211 Sports and Fitness 0%
    3,162 Iron Tower Studio 0%
    3,154 Codex Workshop 0%
    2,232 Giftstravaganza 0%
    2,006 Prosperium 0%
    2,001 No Malarkey! 0%
    1,924 The Leisure Zone 0%
    1,458 Piranha Bytes 0%
    1,123 Golden Era Games 0%
    828 Space Games 0%
    662 Administration™ 0%
    608 MP Gaming 0%
    439 Contact Us (RPGCodex)! 0%
    353 The Boar Studio 0%
    284 ToEE Modding 0%
    195 RPG Codex Content 0%
    185 Prelude To Darkness 0%
    119 Expeditions 0%
    79 Prisonscape 0%
    58 Ash of Gods 0%
    55 Teudogar and the Alliance with Rome 0%
    40 The cRPG Player's Handbook 0%
    39 The Cabal 0%
    14 StarLife 0%
    2 TCancer News & Content Comments 0%
    1 What Remains 0%
    786,320 TOTAL POSTS


    We've also been invaded by Poles. Although this is a side issue and in no way relevant to the conversation topic here.

    A suggestion has been made that to ensure our RPG focus, we split the politics off into its own site. With political news. Focussed on politics. Entirely separate from the RPG Codex. With its own forum, domain name, and user registration required. Run under similar rules, but probably with a few extra in order to stop it from turning into StormFront Lite.

    Political discussion then simply wouldn't exist on the RPG Codex. The forums would be focussed on gaming only. In fact there may not even be a General Discussion, with all of that pushed over to an entirely separate site (or a limited GD with anyone wanting to engage in politics being directed over).
     
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  2. Jiggy Boobles TESTOSTERONIC As Fuck™ Patron

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    Whose idea was this, Infinitron or Scruffy?
     
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  3. Maxie Arcane

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    Poles have been a permanent fixture here forever and the reason I ever joined was reading Darth Roxor and WhiskeyWolf, they constitute 10% of all traffic
    And yet you have the gall to speak of invasions and pester Poles posting here despite them making up the backbone of this website
     
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  4. NJClaw OoOoOoOoOoh Patron

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    I don't like change, so please no.
     
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  5. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Yesterday I've remembered that I'm a 1/4 Pole.
     
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  7. Wunderbar Arcane

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    RPG posters will continue being racist and homophobic because it is in our blood, but this time there won't be a containment zone for us to spill our stories about blacks and jews.

    And the new Stormfront-lite will be quickly swarmed with 4chan retards.
     
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  8. Jiggy Boobles TESTOSTERONIC As Fuck™ Patron

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    Oh and yeah it's always been rpgpoledex at least since I joined.
     
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  9. Parsimonious cook Scholar Patron

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    You cant separate politics from gaming nowadays, this isnt the 1990s anymore. This would only mean that when someone points out lets say homo agenda in TLoU or something like that, he will most likely get censored becuase "no politics bro." That would be a surefire way to turn Codex into Retardera. Except Retardera already exists and there is no need for the second one.
     
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  10. lukaszek the determinator Patron

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    why stop at 2 separate sites/forums?
     
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  11. Snorkack Arcane Patron

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    What are you sniffing? No one is talking about censoring shit.

    It's about preventing 'valuable contributors' like this one

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    to spill too much into gaming discussions
     
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  12. supervoid Arcane

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    No, because I can't be fucked to register on another forum just to be there and witness mass panic and mods livestreaming their suicides when forum is mentioned in a mass shooter's manifesto. :lol:

    We should also clarify these points to avoid possible misunderstandings:
    Is it also a joke or are you serious? Are you planning (again) ban people who voted option you don't like and then say "it's just a joke, don't be upset because you can't use forum"? Are you going to ask us for money (again), then say "it's was just a joke guys, it's a free speech forum not my personal hugbox trust me, please donate to annual fundraiser" when people will question your decision?
     
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  13. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Hmm I'm dangerously close

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  14. NJClaw OoOoOoOoOoh Patron

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    Please don't bully Thonius, he gave us legendary posts like this one:

    Where he bashes Larian for trying to be funny with a pig in the icon for the Grease spell in Baldur's Gate 3.

    Verylittlefishes play more videogames.
     
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  15. TheSentinel Arcane

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    No. Just continue collecting money out of those that can't wait 1 year. Implement the rules you're thinking of for the new site to the Codex instead.
     
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  16. TZ3K Arcane Patron

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    Funny idea DU, but we all know you wouldn't do it.

    [On a serious note...]

    Don't you love it when you spot a retard in a gaming thread and then stroll over to GD and politics to see who they really are.
    You can't really do that unless you're eagle eyed on a larger forum nor would they have as outrageous an opinion, it would be losing something quaint.
    Can you imagine the codex without the drama?
     
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  17. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    I don't think splitting the site is a very good idea. For one thing it'll cause a split in discussions and the community.

    If someone mentions (for example), that female characters are ugly in a game, is that suddenly going to be declared a political topic and purged? Are gaming "politics" (even though it's been established many of those "politics" are directly relevant in discussion of game quality) going to be split between the two sites?

    The intention might be good, but these things are often a slippery slope into censorship and decline.

    I'm also slightly suspicious that certain members of staff are trying to turn this site into some sort of sterilised dev friendly community, so we can listen to devs plugging the same PR crap they post on reddit and other places. No discussion would be allowed of course, because, heaven forbid, we offend the divine developers.
     
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  18. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Just make a decent paywall for the forums so all jobless political experts could extinct.
     
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  19. Ravielsk Learned

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    Absolutely no. Retarded idea.
    The people posting in "gaming" and "political" threads are not two different groups. Splitting the forum would at best only slice the community in half and at worst kill both forums simultaneously.
     
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  20. SoupNazi rial billionaire Patron

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  21. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Also for some reason people who like GOOD RPGS also tends to have GOOD POLITICAN VIEWS (even if sometime polarized) in contrary to non-RPGs and non-political-views that are disguised as such nowadays.
     
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    Why not just tell it straight to our faces, OP?

    Is the Codex on the government watch list or not?
     
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  23. Ol' Willy Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Zionist Agent

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    If I have learned anything in my short time at Codex, it is that you should never vote in DU's polls
     
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    So long as I can say nigger in both forums, I don't care.
     
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