What's stealth gonna be like in Oblivion ?

[bryce777]

I have never posted anything that was "cooked up in the PR department". And I don't work in the PR department. I'm just a programmer. That said, I know the subjects I can and cannot discuss. As far as "explaining things nice" goes, if I thought the game sucked I probably wouldn't be working on it, and I CERTAINLY wouldn't bother talking about it on message boards.

Oh come on, like we really believe you are the actual programmer. It's standard practice to have shills pretend to be programmers and whatnot, and then just IM the real programmer once in a while when the technical questions come up.

Ok, maybe I better explicitly say I am kidding since some people are getting upset.




Milk or whoever it was,

Now, as for the ignore thing, what's the point? Can you really not stand the mildest criticism of a game YOU DID NOT EVEN MAKE? In my fantasy world they would make this one more like dggerfall and less suckful instead of more suckful. Who knows maybe it will happen, but any time I criticize bethesda (From whom I have bought like 4 crap games in a row) people label me a troll.

 

[bryce777]

As an aside I think I might have psychic powers, because 90% of the time I always guess the combination right the first time when I play gothic. It is kind of eery. I mean the first time through, too. I only played it once anyhow.

 

[NeutralMilkHotel]

Ok, maybe I better explicitly say I am kidding since some people are getting upset.

Milk or whoever it was,

Can you really not stand the mildest criticism of a game YOU DID NOT EVEN MAKE?

It's not about not standing criticism, it's about whether or not that criticism is intelligent, reasonable, or just filled with idiotic malice. If Oblivion is shit, I'll be the first one in line to say it when it comes out and I've played it and formed my own opinion (or AT LEAST a reputable source gives it a very in-depth review).

I think having a polar opinion on either side before you've actually played it is just as idiotic. Someone spouting "OBliVIO N IS THE BEST GAME ECVER!!!" now is just as stupid as Llama's bullshit. I thought the codex always frowned on stupidity.

And no, I'm not upset.

 

[Fez]

Gothic seemed to reuse patterns for the lock combinations. I'd often guess by using the last successful pattern and it would work.

 

[Norfleet]

If someone was having a baby and hadn't quite reached full term, would you claim that it did not exist despite all evidence pointing to the contrary?

Yes, in fact, I would. Because there *IS* no evidence to the contrary. I see no baby. I see somebody who CLAIMS to have a baby, but I fully intend on disregarding any claims as to what features said baby will have as pure and utter propaganda. If they go and tell me this is baby of the future, with all new and improved 6-finger, webbed-toe technology with built-in night-vision and 4 functioning arms, I'm going to laugh and point out the complete nonexistence of said baby, and dismiss the claims as wild and unsubstantiated propaganda.

Then when it comes out a malformed, stillborn reject, with NO arms, I'm going to say, "See, I told you there wasn't a baby."

And such is exactly the case here.

 

[Shagnak]

But the evidence may include ultra-sound scan thingies and so on.
Note that we are talking about the existence of the baby, not its feature-set, which, as you point out, could be anything.
The problem is that you claim that a baby does not exist. If you are only meaning a baby with this particular feature set does not exist then guess you are trying to be a clever dick with semantics.

As for the scenario, the question is merely "is there a baby?". Given that sort of evidence,and the fact that there is a baby in your scenario, everyone will just laugh at you and say "Yes there is a baby, but it does not have the features we wished, and how insensitive for you bringing it up!"

Or: "What a cock-suckng fucktard".

Just as they are now.

 

[Norfleet]

But the evidence may include ultra-sound scan thingies and so on.

Sort of like screenshots and other propaganda. Which is not at all proof that a functioning baby with ANY featureset will actually be produced. Haven't you ever heard the saying, "Don't count your chickens before they hatch"?

Or: "What a cock-suckng fucktard".

Just as they are now.

The fact remains that "Oblivion" is precisely that: Oblivion. It does not exist. It may never exist. Wild arguments about how what features it may or may not have based on what lies and propaganda are spewed forth are considerably more pointless, than, say, wild arguments about the pointlessness of the above. Vaporware cannot be taken seriously, unless you happen to enjoy being ripped off when you buy things that don't contain the advertised features. It's all a big, elaborate scam to make you think that something exists when it doesn't.

 

[MrSmileyFaceDude]

Tell that to all the people who saw the demo at E3 a couple weeks ago. Tell that to the 45-50 of us who are working on the game

 

[Norfleet]

No doubt a clever bit of smoke, mirrors, lies, and propaganda. I demand real proof, not wild speculations and absurdly unbelievable claims.

 

[Shagnak]

See the problem is that you are gettng all twisty and turny now, and contradicting your own scenario. Given that you said this:

Then when it comes out a malformed, stillborn reject, with NO arms, I'm going to say, "See, I told you there wasn't a baby."

Which means you are saying that it is not a baby if it does not match the claimed feature-set of the parents, despite the fact that it matches the minimal feature set of the definition of a baby.
Which is complete and utter arse. And why you are a fucktard.

The fact remains that "Oblivion" is precisely that: Oblivion. It does not exist. It may never exist. Wild arguments about how what features it may or may not have based on what lies and propaganda are spewed forth are considerably more pointless, than, say, wild arguments about the pointlessness of the above.

Yes, it has not been released yet.
Yes, its feature-set and whether it is any good is not known to us until it is released. Many people will agree with you there.
But that is not the argument.
The argument is simply about your broad statement that the game does not exist. I assure you, to the people that are developing it does exist, and I'm pretty damn sure to most here it does exist. If you are simply saying that it does not exist in its final released form yet, and may never be afor all we know, then fine - why didn't you just fucking say that instead of making such a broad dumbass statement and then defending it with eroneous analogies like the one above?

YOU PAINFUL IJIT

 

[NeutralMilkHotel]

Norfleet:

Your ignorance does not equal the object's non-existance.

Please quit talking out of your ass.

Kind of like how a child doesn't learn (know about it's existance) or understand death (or puppies, or lolipops, or water, atoms, cells, and plants ) until he sees it, smells it, feels it, or is told about it, but that doesn't mean death (or anything) does not exist.