You are butthurt that people don't have your taste,
Arcanum, however, is the only game that I both a) do not enjoy and b) don't think deserves a spot as a Codex classic. We should view it as an incredibly interesting experiment that is completely broken and uninspiring to play.
Deus Ex? Whoever mentioned Deus Ex is an enormous faggot, yeah the combat sucks but hey you can avoid it and play stealthy. It has so many different approaches to the levels, it's impossible not to enjoy.
IIRC it stops swirling after a few seconds if you stop moving your mouse.I found that the "character skill" aspect was simply laughably bad in this regard: You had this highly trained special agent...who shoots worse than a 6 year old. I cannot say I remember at any point that anyone has ever picked up a gun and then proceeded to swirl it around in circles instead of pointing it at the target.
I found that the "character skill" aspect was simply laughably bad in this regard: You had this highly trained special agent...who shoots worse than a 6 year old. I cannot say I remember at any point that anyone has ever picked up a gun and then proceeded to swirl it around in circles instead of pointing it at the target.
Joined: Jan 22, 2015The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.
Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.
If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.
But he is right you know.Joined: Jan 22, 2015The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.
Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.
If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.
Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.
But he is right you know.Joined: Jan 22, 2015The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.
Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.
If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.
Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.
But he is right you know.Joined: Jan 22, 2015The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.
Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.
If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.
Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.
He isn't; he's committing the classic internet forum fallacy of adding up different posters' opinions and then declaring "the 'Codex' hates everything." Different people dislike different things. For instance, I said I didn't like Arcanum. Some other dude said Baldur's Gate, then a third dude mentions Fallout. But that doesn't mean you can go Arcanum+BG+Fallout, the "Codex" hates all 3!!1!
Plus he's hypocritically complaining about posters making absolute statements from personal preferences, while declaring outright that all of his favorite games are the best of all time. Seems to me it's just a case of:
Obviously not everybody on the Codex will hate PoE, but looking at the number of whining posts in the beta thread, I assume there will be a massive hate towards the game when it comes out. Although I'm pretty sure that most complainers will play it, enjoy it for a degree and then they will come here and shit all over it.But he is right you know.Joined: Jan 22, 2015The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.
Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.
If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.
Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.
He isn't; he's committing the classic internet forum fallacy of adding up different posters' opinions and then declaring "the 'Codex' hates everything." Different people dislike different things. For instance, I said I didn't like Arcanum. Some other dude said Baldur's Gate, then a third dude mentions Fallout. But that doesn't mean you can go Arcanum+BG+Fallout, the "Codex" hates all 3!!1!
Plus he's hypocritically complaining about posters making absolute statements from personal preferences, while declaring outright that all of his favorite games are the best of all time. Seems to me it's just a case of:
I'm also surprised at posters--at least posters with older join dates--being shocked or even outraged by this thread. There's never been a consensus about most of these games. Arcanum has always been contentious; the BG series using RTwP has always grated on some; PS:T's CYOA-style just doesn't do it for others. And NWN2's camera, trololololo. I don't think there ever was a grand hardcore era where all Codexers unanimously fapped to the same games.
Xorazm said:What? No - that's not only self-evidently absurd, it has nothing to do with the point I was making. I didn't think it would be so troublesome to understand but let me spell it out in a bit more detail.
Nobody in their right minds expects PoE or ToN to be all time top 20 classics. However, one could take this thread as reasonable evidence that there is a sizeable minority within this forum which can't stand a lot of the top 20 classics. Therefore, it stands to reason that even if PoE and ToN surpass all reasonable expectation and hit top 20 quality, there will still be a sizeable minority of people on this forum who you can expect to be very vocal in their dislike. In other words, even a stone cold classic won't quite be good enough.
Imagine you take a poll of a room full of movie critics and find that a sizeable minority dislike 2001 or Dr. Strangelove. Now suddenly, much to everyone's surprise, a never before seen Stanley Kubrick movie has been found. I would think that it would therefore stand to reason that, even if that movie is of 2001 or Dr. Strangelove quality, a sizeable minority of those critics won't like it.
There are tons of people with way more experience on this forum than me, sure, but surely the logic stands on its own, no?
Thinking about it more, I suppose there's a bit of wiggle room in the term "sizeable minority," regarding how representative this thread really is, but I'm just going off the horrified reactions of the greybeards showing up that the population sample showing up here must mean something.
Just go to the Steam hours played screenshot thread, it will perk you right up.
Almost everyone poses hard on this site, but they are full of shit. They aren't going back to replay Dungeon Master or Wizardry 7, they're playing Dota 2.
Edit: Ah, here you go, just look at these popamole faggots (of which I am one)
I try to give every game the benefit of doubt, but I simply can't play stuff like Might&Magic, Wizardry etc. despite my best efforts. I simply dislike blobber or first person gameplay in RPGs. And the only Isometric game I didn't finish was Arcanum. I actually like it, the music, the atmosphere, world building, quests etc. I can even stomach the combat up to a point. But at some point in the story it simply bores me. :<