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Fallout Which is better, Fallout: New Vegas or Fallout 4?

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Stella Brando, Nov 30, 2021.

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Choose one or more:

  1. Fallout 4

    8.2%
  2. Fallout: New Vegas

    71.2%
  3. Fallout 3

    6.8%
  4. My Mum <3

    13.7%
  5. James Dixon's Fifth Great Uncle

    8.2%
  6. Some Drunk Guy

    15.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. thesoup Arcane

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    I'm Ridin' with Biden I'm Ridin' with Biden
    The level of unironic f4 apologism is vomit inducing
     
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  2. Hace El Oso Arcane Patron

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    The one and only thing I will say for Fallout 4 is that the autumn season (my favorite)was nicely done, very atmospheric and ‘cozy’. Like many people, I of course never beat the game, but I did wander and enjoy the season before I turned it off forever.
     
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  3. Sykar Arcane

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    New Vegas is so much superior that you have to be a fuckwit to even ask the question. FO 4 barely qualifies as a RPG and besides shiny graphics has nothing of value to offer.
     
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  4. thesoup Arcane

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    I'm Ridin' with Biden I'm Ridin' with Biden
    "shiny graphics"
    first off this is bethesda so technologically it's shit

    second - it's bethesda so art direction is absolutely hideous and a crime to make other people look at
     
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  5. Sykar Arcane

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    New Vegas is not exactly a looker either especially faces are often unanny valley and the animations are rather stiff. FO 4 has on a technical level better graphics and animations but yeah the art direction is garbage.
     
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  6. Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd Arcane Patron

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    Divinity: Original Sin Torment: Tides of Numenera Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Plenty!

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  7. Funposter Magister

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    fallout 2
     
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  8. OSK Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2012 Codex 2013 Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Anything by CDPR. Always remember: Twitcher 3 beat out Underrail in GOTY voting.
     
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  9. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    witcher 1 is pretty good tho
     
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  10. perfectslumbers Scholar

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    Fallout 4 is genuinely one of the worst games i've ever played. The horrible dialogue and quests are actively painful, nails on the chalkboard type of shit. Full cinematic voice acting is horrible for a studio with shit dialogue like Bethesda (and even for a studio with great dialogue like CDPR it's still suboptimal.) And base building and running around finding loot isn't really compelling in any way, why go to fallout 4 for that when there's much better games? Just play Minecraft or something instead.

    FNV is decent. Good questing and story, horrible fps gameplay and unplayable engine (lot of fucking crashing.) If FNV was isometric and had a couple extra months it would've been one of the greats.

    I can't brofist but I would like to acknowledge your excellent list of overrated games.
     
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  11. Alphons Savant

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    One of the songs playing on the radio is a "Sixty minute man".
    It's about Dan- man who can "rock and roll" girls all night long.


    But there's a second song that was not included in the game's soundtrack- "Can't do sixty no more"- Dan "blew a fuse" and is no longer able to satisfy women.


    A mere coincidence?
     
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  12. wishbonetail Educated

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    Well, Fallout 4 has some advanced lighting model, unsurpassed in that time, which i haven't seen in any modern game. As for the game, it has some good exploration until you meet your first NPC, then you should just kill them off and pretend they weren't there.
     
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  13. GrafvonMoltke Shoutbox Purity League

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    I am only posting here to increase my ratio of posts in the GRPG sub-forum and I have no intention of taking part in this absolute farce of a discussion, the answer of which is so obvious that even a six year old could work it out.
     
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  14. koyota Educated Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In
    Honestly this. As someone who explored the entire the map doing almost no progress in fraction quests only survival mode.
    It works well as a hard-core you only live once open-world survival game,
    actually having to think how I was going to tactically take on chip-chomps like wolves and running from my life in the forest / sneaking around because I was going to lose 5 hours of progress is some of the most fun I`ve had in a 3d game.

    Going from that to F076 where it seems like the enjoyment people get is just watching pretty lights fly around on a very easy default setting is mind-boggling.
     
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  15. Ryzer Savant

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    Fallout 3 has abyssal writing, terrible gameplay coupled with terrible unstable engine.
    Fallout new Vegas has terrible gameplay, it stutters all the time, covered with a vomiting piss filter. It is a fucking disgrace technically, it is buggy, prone to crashing all the time. The game is also unfinished with quests that go in circle and Factions that are ridiculously small as well as cities. The open world is one of worst I've ever seen with ugly textures everywhere, shitty invisible walls, and it is empty.
    Fallout 4 has subpar gameplay, retarded dialogues and main quest. The writing is awful, the open world is decent. It is way more stable than Fallout 3 and New Vegas but it is Bethesda so it has dozens of unresolved bugs and issues
    In short: They are all awful.
     
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  16. laclongquan Arcane

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    Elvis gang are perfectly logical considering the palce is in vegas. You do overlook that, didnt you? Vegas is overrun with elvis, the creatures.
    I dont see any problem with sniper cqmping on top of dino statue with shop selling dino toy. Logically perfect.
    Roman legionare is no problem. Even dislike that faction to the point of never run a legion ending... even so i still see them as logical.
    As for robot a sheriff... since iam not lazy and i want to get best discount... slim primm never be sheriff in my town.

    Admit it, you dont understand why and whatfor of all those fnv writings. ALL that logics go over your head.
     
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  17. Lord_Potato Arcane

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    Roman legionaries might have seemed bizarre in 2010...

    But it actually was prophetical. In 2013 the world heard about ISIS, a band of guys larping as early islamic warriors, but still wielding rifles and roaming the land on toyotas.

    Ceasar's Legion is actually pretty similar. They use historical background to get some identity (after all they are just a bunch of different tribes without any unifying ideology) and pretend they're realising some historic mission.

    Such groups of dangerous, armed larpers appear throughout history.
     
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  18. Bigg Boss Arcane

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    Play this one instead then.

    REDACTED

    So you actually know what a "worst" game looks like. I hate Bethesda because their games are just mindless loot shooters instead of RPG's but they do that well enough to not be called "worst game ever".
     
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  19. Duraframe300 Arcane

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    Did you really want to post Tactics here or did you just mistake the trailer for the PS2 game?

    Because WTF?
     
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  20. Lord_Potato Arcane

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    Fallout Tactics was ok. The game achieved what it strived for (while taking some questionable choices lore-wise). Perhaps you meant Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel for PS?
     
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  21. Bigg Boss Arcane

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    Oops I posted the wrong game because of that stupid fucking title. You know what I meant. PoS.

     
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  22. Silverfish Arbiter

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    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Fallout: New Vegas. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical gamer's head. There's also Caesar's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike New Vegas truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Benny's existential catchphrase "Shake 'em for the Ben-man," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Josh Sawyer's genius wit unfolds itself on their monitors. What fools.. how I pity them.

    And yes, by the way, i DO have a New Vegas tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.
     
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  23. no-return Novice

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    it was possible to keep atmosphere and soul of original Fallouts in first person, it's not about graphics, you need complex quests and free uncensored writing .
    DOS and Pillars are soulless parodies too, worse than some 3D rpgs
     
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  24. luj1 You're all shills

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    Its not about graphics or perspective, but it is about art direction, writing, atmosphere, color palette and soundtrack

    Strictly theoterically speaking I suppose they could have done it well but they didnt

    After Morrowind saved Bethesda from bankrupcy, they became a popamole company that loves consoles and autogenerating content via algorithms
     
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  25. perfectslumbers Scholar

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    I like other Bethesda games, even Skyrim. Just Fallout 4 is shit. You're right though the worst game ever is still Divinity Original Sin 2 :positive:

    Bethesda's games past Arena/Daggerfall have always had poor atmosphere imo mostly because of their weak ambience. Their games are much more silent than they need to be and the empty space needs to be filled with either music in TES or the radio in Fallout. The complete lack of tension makes it hard too, a dungeon can't be atmospheric when it's an easy bright straight line that has no test of skill, only a test of how many potions you remembered to bring. (Again this wasn't an issue in the first two games, since the dungeons were complete fucking nightmares to navigate, even if they weren't explicitly difficult.)
     
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