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I see that the classic thread has been moved to retardoland. I strongly disagree with this.

Why?

Because it's a part of history that should be visible to all, not just gd-accessing Codex members. You can't find that info in as much detail anywhere else, there's a good amount of blogs and newsposts all over the internet linking to exactly that thread.

Bring it back to GRPGD.
 

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You better watch out what you're posting or it share fate of Phage's reviews and went from retartolande into oblivion(c).
 

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I see that the classic thread has been moved to retardoland. I strongly disagree with this.

Why?

Because it's a part of history that should be visible to all, not just gd-accessing Codex members. You can't find that info in as much detail anywhere else, there's a good amount of blogs and newsposts all over the internet linking to exactly that thread.

Bring it back to GRPGD.
I support this agenda.
It is truly one of the best thread ever on the Codex. Worthwhile read with lots of twists. Also moving to retardo land means that there won't be anymore update to the thread, imagine if it was moved before the ebay auction where stuff like penis monster and Cleve's resignation letter were uncovered!
 

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Keep in mind that it was Cleve himself who asked for it to be locked and retardo'd.
 

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They went bankrupt because they made shit games.

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You can't find that info in as much detail anywhere else, there's a good amount of blogs and newsposts all over the internet linking to exactly that thread.

Bring it back to GRPGD.

I agree it should be brought back, but I did notice Cleve asking for it to be locked and retardoed. I wonder if having his accusations of child abuse etc visible to everyone in such a well known thread (linked in plenty of places, as opposed to his old usenet posts etc) made him a bit wary after his recent experiences with superhero litigators. After all, he's about to release a top-selling game and become even more of an industry celebrity.

:troll:

But yes, hope it emerges from its unwarranted exile in retardoland.
 

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I'm ok with the thread being retardo'd until something interesting happens again. The thread can always be "opened back up" when new events occur.

The only bad thing is new visitors can't read the thread because it's retardo'd. Can't you just lock the thread and leave it stickied in GRPG?
 

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I'm ok with the thread being retardo'd until something interesting happens again.

The thread can always be "opened back up" when new events occur.
That's not what it's about. When new events occur ideally new threads will be opened for easier navigation - it's just that info about video game history that's not available anywhere else to the same accuracy, is found in that thread. It's not something that should be hidden away. It's comparable to hiding Sirtek documents into the vaults of the Strong Museum.

The public has the right to know!
 

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I'm ok with the thread being retardo'd until something interesting happens again. The thread can always be "opened back up" when new events occur.
Except no. Remember the whole auction thing started because a guy googled sirtech and found the thread and started posting. While that is unlikely to happen twice in the exact same way, it shows the value of having the thread readable to all.

The thread should only ever be retardo'd if someone actually writes a massive recap of all the important parts. Until then it deserves to be public knowledge.
 

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I'm ok with the thread being retardo'd until something interesting happens again. The thread can always be "opened back up" when new events occur.
Except no. Remember the whole auction thing started because a guy googled sirtech and found the thread and started posting. While that is unlikely to happen twice in the exact same way, it shows the value of having the thread readable to all.

The thread should only ever be retardo'd if someone actually writes a massive recap of all the important parts. Until then it deserves to be public knowledge.

:M

The only bad thing is new visitors can't read the thread because it's retardo'd. Can't you just lock the thread and leave it stickied in GRPG?
 

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I'm ok with the thread being retardo'd until something interesting happens again. The thread can always be "opened back up" when new events occur.
Except no. Remember the whole auction thing started because a guy googled sirtech and found the thread and started posting. While that is unlikely to happen twice in the exact same way, it shows the value of having the thread readable to all.

The thread should only ever be retardo'd if someone actually writes a massive recap of all the important parts. Until then it deserves to be public knowledge.

:M

The only bad thing is new visitors can't read the thread because it's retardo'd. Can't you just lock the thread and leave it stickied in GRPG?
I know. Just wanted to make my point ;)
 

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Somebody summarise it all into an article and we'll post it on the Codex.
 

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Somebody summarise it all into an article and we'll post it on the Codex.

Sir-Tech went Bankrupt because of a series of mismanagement steps on a major sequel to the Wizardry series.

All of the following points contributed to the decline of Sir-Tech

Cleveland Mark Blakemore said:
1. Wiz 8 : Stones of Arnhem featured fully animated and colored cell frames of a giant throbbing penis monster and a living rectum with legs which were based on concept art by Max Phipps.

2. At team meetings held at Max Phipps apartment, whenever you wanted to use the bathroom you had to crawl through waist deep piles of vibrators, dildos, sex toys, bondage gear and ass pounder devices.

3. Max Phipps beta testing team for Wiz 8: Stones of Arnhem was assembled from underage homeless teen runaways that Max was housing in his apartment he recruited at the railway station, that he intended to double task as testers during the day and blowjob slaves at night as part of their room and board.

4. All PC portraits in the game were derived from male model headshots in gay wankoff magazines that had been laying around when Max urged the artist to draw up some portraits quickly. As a result, all the portraits of men looked like gay porn stars and the women looked like 40 year old hags.

5. All story lines in the game Stones of Arnhem revolved around transsexual furries who were either murdered themselves or looking to murder someone else. All story lines ended with dramatic shrill monologues by the surviving queens in the game that went on for pages and pages of tedious dialogue with no semantic content of any kind. In one plotline, a magical diamond was hidden inside an NPC's anus and had to be smelled out with an enchanted butt bandit on a stick that was held in front of the party like a totem. It was called "bitchie the hedgehog" or something to that effect.

but this is probably a p. good summary right here. Except for most of the newer stuff. Maybe use it as a starting point?

http://thebaneofqueequeg.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-grimoire-thing-just-gets-weirder.html
 
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Keep in mind that it was Cleve himself who asked for it to be locked and retardo'd.


Yes, and he's also leaving forever.


I normally have little interest in the drama on this site (Bedlam's full of loonies- SURPRISE!), but I will say that this was one of the first threads I looked at when I started lurking many years ago. For whatever a chronic lurker's opinion is worth, while I fully support an official codex content summary, I also agree with the sentiment that the thread has historical and cultural value as a primary source document that should be available to the public at large (I could give a shit about whether or not it remains locked).
 
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