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Why was the Steam curator page abandoned?

Xorazm

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I don't know who's in charge of it, but as an off-on visitor to the site over the years, it was always a regular go-to source for me, particularly whenever sales rolled around. Found a lot of quality gems that way.

Apologies of course if this has been covered, I went back five or six pages and didn't see any discussion.

Would appreciate any clarify - thanks.
 
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I don't know who's in charge of it, but as an off-on visitor to the site over the years, it was always a regular go-to source for me, particularly whenever sales rolled around. Found a lot of quality gems that way.

Apologies of course if this has been covered, I went back five or six pages and didn't see any discussion.

Would appreciate any clarify - thanks.
You'd be better off just scrolling through GRPG every once in a while to find hidden gems cause the jew doing the steam curation has shit taste and is a shill for garbage. That's why GRPG is better than steam and even the news section for finding quality gems
 

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I found a couple of good games in the news section under infinitron's bad game posts because people were complaining about him ignoring the good games, so it's not all bad
 

Xorazm

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I don't know who's in charge of it, but as an off-on visitor to the site over the years, it was always a regular go-to source for me, particularly whenever sales rolled around. Found a lot of quality gems that way.

Apologies of course if this has been covered, I went back five or six pages and didn't see any discussion.

Would appreciate any clarify - thanks.
You'd be better off just scrolling through GRPG every once in a while to find hidden gems cause the jew doing the steam curation has shit taste and is a shill for garbage. That's why GRPG is better than steam and even the news section for finding quality gems
Yeah despite my relatively low reply rate (2 factor authentication ....aintnobodygottimeforthat) I still lurk and browse with some regularity and yeah, you turn up some quality stuff.

Still, the group has 50k members. There's a lot of quality indies that are begging for attention and every eyeball helps. You want a better environment for CRPGs but can't even bother to throw some quality indies a bone? What, because some Codexers whine about your choices? This place thinks sunshine is a woke Jewish conspiracy, come on now.
 

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You'd be surprised how hard it is for people to write a 200 character blurb that summarizes what's good about a game.

(That's 200 letters, not 200 words.)
Fluent could do it, though all this summaries would sound the same
 

Xorazm

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You'd be surprised how hard it is for people to write a 200 character blurb that summarizes what's good about a game.

(That's 200 letters, not 200 words.)

Appreciate the response. Yes, I'm aware this is betacuckjewishtransveilguarddeclineofcivilization talk, but I get how hard it's got to be to manage all the chaos on the site and take on the curator page as a side hustle, and even just having the group exist is doing good work.

I think people care less about the blurb, though, and more just using it as a discovery tool, and the main thing on my mind is just getting more eyes on the little projects clawing for attention. Even just taking the top seven voted games in the GOTY rankings could help drive traffic, and people would probably pitch in on the blurb (I'm still grateful for digging up Neo Scavenger and Legionaries' Life for me).

I could probably brew some coffee and do a first pass on the blurbs, but better might be to just have a running page in the more general discussion forums asking people to submit games for the curator group along with a 200 character blurb pre-written, and then just pick and choose from there. You'd have the usual round of whining over what got picked and what didn't, but nobody posts here without having already suffered developmentally crippling emotional damage.
 

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The 200-character blurb is the least of the problems... it's more about drama every time a game is added and lack of transparency on who is taking all the free games that curators get sent.

I do think we should use the curator to promote cool indie RPGs, but that ranges from Caves of Lore and Zorbus to Quester and Volcano Princess, and people get very butthurt about that.
 

Xorazm

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The 200-character blurb is the least of the problems... it's more about drama every time a game is added and lack of transparency on who is taking all the free games that curators get sent.

I do think we should use the curator to promote cool indie RPGs, but that ranges from Caves of Lore and Zorbus to Quester and Volcano Princess, and people get very butthurt about that.

Yeah, I expected butthurt would be an issue but this site, despite still being the best RPG site, c'mon it's dramatic and butthurt about fucking everything. Infinitron could post a news update just reminding people affected about daylight savings time and there's still be shit-flinging monkeys accusing him of being a part of the jew-tranny-farmer conspiracy. It'd be a shame if a lot of deserving indies had to pay the price because this containment facility for informed screaming autists can't help but shit-fling at every opportunity. Svarog's Dream got a quality review, you'd think that alone would make it a shoo-in. I'd think Islands of the Caliph would probably be expected, Sands of Salazar, and I have a soft spot for Dark Envoy despite its rather tepid reception because I loved Tower of Time. Widen the definition a little - Fell Seal, Chronicon, Rum & Gun, Tunguska, Partisans 1941, Symphony of War, maybe Dwarven Realms ... all did, I think, okay for their niche but it's cut-throat out there, mostly passion projects that live or die just based on whether the devs feel like they got some nice attention. The guy behind Vigilantes is going to drop Prometheus Wept at some point god knows he'll need all the help he can get. There's also that guy working Call of Saregnar, whenever he's ready for release I'm sure he could use all the available signal boost. Maybe the Thaumaturge, but I haven't played much of that, same for Dread Delusion.

Total aside, and I completely understand why Infinitron keeps his cards close to his chest, but ever since I've joined the site and seen how the community treats him, I've always just wondered .... why? Dude must really love RPGs or something because keeping on with never a :salute: is impressive and bewildering.

Anyway, :salute:. I get the impression that pretty much none of the most vocal and regular posters have ever had to manage a team, much less a team of more than 6, but anyone with that experience knows what a shitshow of constant dousing of fires behind the scenes it can be. Hell, I've been banned from certain communities over complete misunderstandings and just took it in stride because I've been there, mistakes happen and people are busy.

But anyway, I know I'm just a voice, but I'd still argue that the drama is worth shrugging off to get a little more spotlight on real gems like Caves of Lore (and Caves of Qud, but that one seems contentious in the community). Zorbus and Quester I'd never heard of but I'm already getting value because they just went to my wishlist.

I don't think I'd ever have found the game "Seven" were it not for the curator page and I'll always be thankful for that and will shill that game to my grave.

Same reason I'll bang the drum for the curator page. It's a got a huge subscription base and there are admitted semi-tourists like me who use it to find and explore stuff we'd never think of, particularly for the sizeable but silent contingent who don't browse the site regularly. Seven was my favorite discovery but it also sent me to Vigilantes, Battle for Esturia, Tower of Time, Legionaries' Life, Legends of Amberland, Heroes of a Broken Land and those were all ace. Bastard Bonds is the only one that I've struggled to crack ... the pieces are there but somehow it never gets its hooks in me. Serpent in the Staglands was sadly a miss, but I did push through to the end and I'm interested in their follow up.

Anyway, I'll reiterate that it really is a great resource for players and even moreso for hard-working devs, it'd be a terribly ironic shame if Codex whiners knee-capped CRPGs deserving of a little more spotlight.

Give it to Pepe, keep a running thread in the forums going, or just auto-add the GOTY winners - there's gotta be a way.

I don't want to miss out on another Seven or Tower of Time because I dipped on the forums for a while and a quality title just slipped away.
 

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I don't know who's in charge of it, but as an off-on visitor to the site over the years, it was always a regular go-to source for me, particularly whenever sales rolled around. Found a lot of quality gems that way.

Apologies of course if this has been covered, I went back five or six pages and didn't see any discussion.

Would appreciate any clarify - thanks.
Pillars of Eternity drama killed it same with any credibility this site had.
 

Grauken

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I don't want to miss out on another Seven or Tower of Time because I dipped on the forums for a while and a quality title just slipped away.
The only way is to wade through the filth to find the gems, no easy solutions
 
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Anyway, I'll reiterate that it really is a great resource for players and even moreso for hard-working devs, it'd be a terribly ironic shame if Codex whiners knee-capped CRPGs deserving of a little more spotlight.
The lack of spotlight is 100% on infinikike and no one else, do not shift the blame. Multiple people have pinged him many times to make even a single post about Drova, a 2024 release that has managed to make Codexer's happy. Its crickets. This is no ones fault but the jew.

In honor of Xorazm's passionate post, I've added all the indies that the Codex had reviewed since 2022, plus some other stuff I felt had to be there, like Colony Ship.

Lots more to add, but it's a start.
FYI: SKALD - says there is a Codex Review but only links to a random page in the forum thread. Also, add Drova)))
 

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FYI: SKALD - says there is a Codex Review but only links to a random page in the forum thread. Also, add Drova)))
Added Drova. Seems very cool, haven't heard of it before, but the forum thread was going wild on it.

And we don't have a Codex review of SKALD, so I linked to the impression of someone at out forums that I paraphrased into a review. Did the same for Drova.
 

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