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Your top 5 RPG list

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by bossjimbob, Aug 7, 2003.

  1. bossjimbob Liturgist

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    Howdy. Since all of you here are pretty knowledgable in the genre of RPGs (both PC and console assumedly) I was curious to hear about your top five lists of games that you feel have advanced this style of game design. If you feel like being wordy, by all means toss in some descriptions or official links. Cheers.
     
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  2. atoga Novice

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    uh...

    (1) Fallout
    (2) Planescape: Torment
    (3) Arcanum
    (4) Fallout 2
    (5) Shadowrun for SNES (easily more of an RPG than BG)
     
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  3. Psilon Erudite

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    Hmm... Probably:
    1. Daggerfall
    2. Fallout
    3. Arcanum
    4. Morrowind
    5. Fallout 2
     
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  4. Sharpei_Diem Liturgist

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    Recent, or all time?

    All time (no particular order):
    <b>Planescape: Torment</b>: Well written dialogue and choice options, excellent voice acting, sounds and environment. very well done, Mature approach to a game.
    <b>Ultima 4</b>: Absolute classic that changed the genre in many ways
    <b>Baldurs Gate</b>: new engine and graphics for d&d which was dying slowly since Eye of the Beholder. Good story and environment.
    <b>Fallout</b>: absolute classic. great story and environment, hampered only by an ugly (but effective) interface.
    <b>Dungeon Master</b>: game that was ahead of it's time in many ways.

    Recent

    1) Planescape: Torment
    2) Fallout
    3) Baldurs Gate
    4) Fallout 2
    5) Arcanum
     
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  5. Zetor Arcane

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    In no order [they're all equally k3wl IMNSHHO]

    Games I play the most:
    - JA2 [turn-based tactical luv, the best system I've seen so far]
    - Star Control 2 [it's more of a RPG than most of the stuff out there right now]
    - Wizardry 7 [best 'oldskool' RPG evar]
    - Tactics Ogre (SNES or PSX) [requires more thinking than most PC RPGs and has *gasp* ACTUAL PLAYER CHOICE]
    - Deus Ex or System Shock 1 [bite me :lol:]

    Most innovative cRPGs from my POV:
    - Fallout
    - PS:T
    - Ultima 4
    - Starflight [I never played it, but it's the precursor to SC2 sooooo...]
    - Betrayal at Krondor


    /me runs from the angry mob :P

    -- Z.
     
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  6. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    - Fallout series

    - Baldur's Gate series

    - Neverwinter Nights

    - Arcanum

    - Ultima 7
     
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  7. Gimp Mask Liturgist

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    :salute:
     
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  8. Greenskin13 Erudite

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    Seems like Fallouts very popular, no?

    1. Fallout
    2. Planescape: Torment
    3. SLASH'EM
    4. Wasteland
    5. Fallout 2
     
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  9. HanoverF Arcane Patron

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    1. Fallout
    2. Daggerfall
    3. Planescape: Torment
    4. Darklands
    5. Three way tie between the last good Wizardry (not 8 ), last good Might and Magic (before they ruined it), and Quest for Glory 2 (I'm a sucker for adventure games)
     
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  10. Araanor Liturgist

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    Fallout is the holy grail of CRPGs, you know. :) A considerable part of the active members here have found their way via Fallout fansites...

    Fallout 1/2
    Planescape: Torment
    Arcanum
    Darksun, maybe.
     
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  11. Voss Erudite

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    Planescape: Torment
    Ultima 4
    Fallout
    Darklands
    Arcanum


    Thinking about this drove home how little there actually is to choose from.
    :cry:
     
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  12. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    Ain't that the truth *sighs*

    Personal fav: Fallout and Arcanum (god bless Tim Cain), Daggerfall, PS: Torment (the story was too damn powerful), Ultima 4.

    The ones that advanced the genre: Fallout, NetHack, Daggerfall, Ultima Underworld, Diablo 2 (the skill trees).
     
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  13. Section8 Erudite

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    RPG:

    Fallout
    Ultima Underworld
    Arcanum
    Ultima VII
    Geneforge

    RPGish:

    System Shock 2
    Dungeon Master
    Uncharted Waters
    Jagged Alliance
    Lands of Lore
     
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  14. Elwro Arcane

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    Well, it shouldn't be just the favs, but games which advanced the genre... hmm..

    Old, dungeon-like games: Dungeon Master, EOB 1 and perhaps Bloodwych (interesting also because you could play 2 adventuring parties on a split screen :))

    And then, a chain: Dark Sun 1 (a wonderful game) -> Wasteland -> Fallout.

    Nothing too important happened in the genre afterwards, imho. I would only repeat what others have said about the great writing and maturity of Planescape, but for example Arcanum, being a great game, in terms of advancing the genre may be viewed as "Fallout made bigger and in a new, original setting".

    And the "exploration" RPGs... hmm... Magic Candle? Then it was just Arena -> Daggerfall -> Morrowind.
     
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  15. Jed Cipher

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    Fallout
    Arcanum
    Prelude to Darkness
    Morrowind
    Torment

    I'm somewhat of a n00b, so all of my games date after '97 or so.
     
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  16. EEVIAC Erudite

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    Thi is my list of games that (I think) have added something original or unique to the body of role-playing knowledge.

    Alter Ego - my idea of pure roleplaying, every action has consequence, in fact the whole gameplay is ruled by making choices.

    Space 1889 - a game that succeeded purely on the originality of the game world and its massive array of skills. Martian Dreams had a similar setting and Arcanum was released ten years later, but other than that, its an extremely rich and largely unexplored theme.

    Pirates! - huge world that responds to the player choices with lots of actions within the world, politic-ing, treasure hunts, re-uniting your family, marriage - basically, The Spanish Main becomes a giant toybox to live out your buccaneer fantasies.

    Shadowrun (MegaDrive) - I mention this game because it has RT combat that works. The simple device of having your player slow down when there were enemies nearby allows the player to move speedily through the world, and also at a more sensible, combat orientated pace, without break in continuity. I haven't played the Lionheart demo, but reading the criticism makes me wonder whether a slow-down option would help.

    A special mention to Hound of the Shadow and the Elvira RPG's, because I enjoyed these games even though they weren't really that good. I like horror and I like RPG's, its a shame the two very rarely meet.

    The problem is that new games fail to incorporate the good ideas of the previous iterations. That's how you build up a body of work, you reinforce the good ideas, you throw away the bad.
     
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  17. Zetor Arcane

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    About Baldur's Gate... it's hardly an 'original' engine, the Dark Sun games were very similar. [they were tile-based instead of having prerendered backgrounds and had turn-based combat, but that's it... in a sense, the IE was a step backwards. :P]

    -- Z.
     
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  18. Megatron Liturgist

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    I haven't played many rpgs yo
     
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  19. Sabotai Liturgist

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    In chronological order:
    -The Faery Tale Adventure (very first RPG-ish type of game I played)
    -Dungeon Master (I'm still a bit jealous of Secion8's avatar)
    -All Magnetic Scrolls games (even though they were text adventures)
    -Wizardry 7
    -Ultima VII (is it coincidence or are most games with a 7 in the name pretty darn good?)
     
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  20. Greenskin13 Erudite

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    Quite possibly the best MMORPG evar!!!11
     
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  21. Diogo Ribeiro Erudite

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    I think that slowdown was due to the player's low speed... when my skills got higher, i remember not slowing down one bit in combat. Perhaps it was a mix of skills and cyberware?
     
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  22. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

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    Let's see...

    Fallout - I rarely replay many games, especially CRPGs, but I've played this one countless times. There was a time when I'd come home from work for a month, and play Fallout from start to finish nearly every evening. Didn't get much sleep that month, though.. heh

    Geneforge - Likewise, I've played this through several times, only four times though. I really dig the atmosphere and setting. More than anything else, the atmosphere is what kept me coming back.

    Questron - I can't remember why, but I loved this game as a kid. I need to fire up a C64 emulator and remind myself why I played it several times.

    Prelude to Darkness - The only thing that stops me from replaying this one is the bugs. I've played it through twice though.

    Demise - The Rise of the Ku'Tan - Probably one of the best dungeon crawlers ever made. Never beat it, mainly because it took me a month to get to level six of the thirty level dungeon.
     
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  23. EEVIAC Erudite

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    I actually thought it was caused by a computer slowdown but I've read it mentioned in FAQ's. Nevertheless, its still usefull knowing when you're in a combat situation or about to approach a combat situation. I should have mentioned Freedom Force as another implementation of slowing combat to give the player time to make reasoned choices.
     
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  24. wizard Liturgist

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    -Fallout
    -Geneforge
    -Avernum-serie
    -Baldur's Gate-serie
    -Exile-serie

    Quite Spiderweb based list :D
     
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  25. axel Liturgist

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    -Fallout
    -Arcanum
     
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