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Edict from The Management™

DarkUnderlord

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Given the events of late, those in charge here have colluded to come up with some vague, contradictory and slightly confusing rules. We post these here to make it clear to everyone what kind of Codex we want (what we essentially believe the Codex was founded to achieve in the first place). If at any point you are unclear or would like to ask any questions about these "rules", please do so. If you do not like the rules and would like to complain, then I'll happily meet you on page 25 with one of my various "I win" images.

You want rules? I'll give you rules...
  1. Establishment of the Codex Caliphate: There are four people that matter when it comes to making decisions. They are DarkUnderlord and Calis for the Codex, baby arm and Shagnak for TCancer. However, we all share the same forums so if anyone wants anything done to the forums or the people within them, those four people have to reach some kind of consensus. This is our forum, not yours. If we decide to take a particular course of action, that's our call. If we decide to start a poll for the general users about it, that's our call. If we decide to ignore the result of that poll, that's your problem, not ours. The Codex is not a democracy (of its general forum populace). In short, this is our playpen and we're in charge. If you don't like that, GTFO.
  2. We will take our time to make decisions: We've had too much shit about this so all decisions to ban someone must be made with the agreement of the Caliphate. That is DarkUnderlord, Calis, baby arm and Shagnak. That means if we think someone needs to be banned, we will discuss it BEFORE they are banned. Not after. Not five minutes before we're about to ban them anyway. BEFORE they are banned, we must reach some kind of consensus. Obviously there may come a time when someone is just going out of control spamming the forums, in which case quick and decisive action may be required but such decisions will be discussed afterwards and may be changed if a satisfactory consensus can't be reached. In all other cases though, there is PLENTY of time to have a discussion about it first before any action is taken. And if it ends up being that we ban someone 3 days after they made the post that got them banned, well then so be it. This is the internets. No-one says we can't take our time.
  3. Decisions will be enforced: If we decide to ban you for a week, you'll be banned for a week. It won't be over-turned the next day because we all had second thoughts. If a decision to ban someone has been made, that ban will be upheld. That means the username will be banned and if that person uses work, home or a proxy to get around the ban, then those IP addresses will also be banned for the duration of the ban. If they do it enough that they really piss us off, we may decide to ban them for longer. This goes for "Dumbfuck!" and other tags as well.
  4. "Free the banned" campaigns: We don't mind if you want to make a 17 page thread in Site Feedback where you all have a whinge about "unban xyz". We don't care. Don't expect us to change our minds though. However, if people continue to make posts asking for someone to be "freed" or unbanned, that person runs the risk of being banned or tagged themselves (we do after all, tag people who are acting stupid). Especially if it starts to spread to other threads. With guideline #2 in place, we will be highly confident of our reasons for banning people and as such, no correspondence will be entered into. In fact, anyone who posts an "unban XYZ" thread is likely to have that thread Retardo'd anyway. Especially if it gets out of hand and derails non-related threads.
  5. The open posting of NSFW images: The open posting of NSFW images (IE: between tags) is highly discouraged. When Forum Moderators spot such indiscretion, the images will be removed and the individual in question asked very nicely via PM not to do that. If the individual in question continues to post such images repeatedly after being warned, they run the risk of being banned. In other words, doing it once every 6 months or so you could probably get away with. HHAHA. You got us. Funnee. Do it once a week though and you're gone. Stated times are for example purposes only. Point is, if you do it often enough that we remember you, you're in trouble.
  6. Trick linking to NSFW images: Linking (IE: not embedded images but hyperlinks you have to click) to NSFW images and providing a warning is highly encouraged if you should wish to link to such images. Failing that, it's perfectly acceptable to try and trick people into clicking on a link to such images (see this thread for further clarification on this rule). It's always funny and people need to learn one day not to trust shit they read on the internet. We do however, exercise the discretion to decide you're doing it too often and ban you for it. We'll try and warn you first before doing that but we'll see.
  7. Don't be a retard: Who's a retard and who isn't is highly subjective and even if we wanted to, we could never create clearly defined rules about it. In short, don't be retarded. Most of you do actually know when you're being retarded. Volourn is a wonderful example. If you act like a retard, we may ban your ass, give you a tag or concoct some other form of punishment which we deem appropriate. As with banning, this is entirely at our discretion, not yours. As a rule of thumb, if we find that ignoring your crap becomes more effort than it's worth, especially if your crap is ruining or derailing otherwise interesting discussions, you're probably going to end up in trouble sooner or later.
  8. Retardo Land: Anything you post may end up in Retardo Land. One liners, unfunny jokes, either entire threads or indidivual posts may be split out. If you find that more and more of what you are posting is ending up in Retardo Land, you may find yourself in trouble. If you find that's the case, please reconsider what you are posting. If you would like to question any of the reasons for those posts ending up in Retardo Land, please make a thread whinging about it in Site Feedback. If you be a dick about it though, we may ban you. Retardo'ing threads and posts is entirely at the discretion of individual Moderators / Administrators. As a guideline though, we don't mind if 2 or 3 stupid threads are running in GD at the same time, provided it isn't de-reailing any other thread. Anymore than that though or if we feel it's getting out of hand, threads will be moved as deemed necessary.
  9. Who's naughty and nice: For the record, all bans and tags will be kept in a list in the Staff Forum. The list will include who's been banned or tagged and why. This is so we can keep track of it all. In the event of IP addresses being banned, those IP addresses will also be recorded there. Hopefully it'll become a list of all the known proxies so we can keep track of them for future use.
  10. Nothing illegal: We've always been against anything illegal being posted. Illegal torrents, pirated whatever, child porn, etc... It's not allowed. As with everything else, do it once or twice (depending on what "it" is) and we'll remove it and warn you. Keep it up and you're gone for a period of time at our discretion.
  11. This is the Codex. We don't lock threads: Retardo yes, lock no.
  12. A disclaimer about the rules: This is the Codex. About every 6 months or so, some lurker posts a complaint that it's "not like it used to be". Tough. The Codex was never established to be serious business only. It was established by a group of people who wanted a place to have arguments about RPGs without those arguments being shut-down on page 5. Those people also had a dark and quirky sense of humour. Over the years, we have expanded. We now have a site called "TacticularCancer" with the motto "We'll have your balls". If you don't get that we don't mind that type of humour, you need to. While we understand and respect that some of you are only interested in the serious discussions, please respect that the rest of us don't mind having a stupid laugh every once in a while, even if the thread is destined for Retardo Land. Likewise, don't be a moron and derail an interesting thread. And if you fucktards and morons really can't get along, then by all means, feel free to spend 15 pages or more yelling and screaming at each other about it. That is, after all, what the Codex is all about.
 

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Looks good. I like how the point that this forum doesn't 'belong' to any users was made (as I said during the hijinks/forum riots). In other words, there is, and was, no legitimacy in any users gaining unauthorized control of it. Anyway, hopefully all the drama is over now.
 

vrok

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Looks fine, you forgot tubgirl though! Haven't seen that one in a while. :(
 

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I missed the part where you said the Codex would last a thousand years.

But seriously, a good list of rules, though. I do have a Retardo Land-related suggestion. Delete bullshit and spam threads like the ones Zappa recently created, Retardo Land should be only for really funny/stupid threads (like aphatmc's multi-headed dicks and the gay test).
 

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vrok said:
you forgot tubgirl though! Haven't seen that one in a while. :(

She is forever in our hearts and minds. Especially the latter.
 

psycojester

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Imagine what it must be like to be tubgirls father, he must feel so much pride knowing that his little girl is famous the world over.
 

vrok

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Do you really think he'd recognize her from the cunt PoV?
 

Nedrah

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vrok said:
Do you really think he'd recognize her from the cunt PoV?

Seeing her further development up to the point where the picture was taken, there's a certain possibility that he'd recognize her especially from that PoV
 

Astromarine

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a fantastic recipe for wallowing in mediocrity for eternity. Sad, but what can you do? We must have our shock porn, that's *always* funny, as stated. The fact that at least on RPGCodex side, there's noone left with any vision for growth has to have some effects.

Let me point this out for the people in the cheap seats that think being bureaucratic middle managers is what this site needs in terms of leadership: shock porn and associated hijinx? fun and all, haha, got me there. But the moment you actually have to think about rules to protect the hijinx from the relentless attack of the mean people that want to grow up beyond kindergarten humor, it's the moment where you lost all perspective and should just step off the internet for a while.


People talk about the right to true free speech and dark humor without understanding the spirit. The Codex's core essence should be to become the Bill Hicks of game criticism. Remember that guy? The smart guy with the dead baby jokes and the coke? The guy that was so bitter that most people could barely stand him, but had to go to his shows anyway because he made them think and maybe just maybe reevaluate their lives just a tiny bit?

Yeah, that guy's dead. And the Codex will never be the Bill Hicks of game criticism either. Because the retards won the battle to make people think that the smart stuff he said was just the verbal equivalent of tubgirling someone. The idiots running the place can make a dead baby joke and believe themselves his equals.

Serious business? hell yeah. Because I am at least smart enough to know that if I tried to be funny I'd certainly be no Bill Hicks, so I go for histrionics instead. But the whole bunch of legalese that basically says "we pay for the hosting and can replicate better content management products in PHP a bit, so we reserve the right to eat feces and fling it at passersby" is too. But it's also ridiculous.

Bah.
 

Cassidy

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I have only one thing to say:

Delete this thread and let people figure things on their own, like it was before.
 

asper

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Re: Edict from The Management™

I agree with astro on this one...

And I really dont get this:

DarkUnderlord said:
[*]Trick linking to NSFW images: Linking (IE: not embedded images but hyperlinks you have to click) to NSFW images and providing a warning is highly encouraged if you should wish to link to such images. Failing that, it's perfectly acceptable to try and trick people into clicking on a link to such images (see this thread for further clarification on this rule). It's always funny and people need to learn one day not to trust shit they read on the internet. We do however, exercise the discretion to decide you're doing it too often and ban you for it. We'll try and warn you first before doing that but we'll see.

Linking to tubgirl is only an inch away from posting it between tags on the lame-o-meter, imo

ps first post, hi
 
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roshan

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Funny thing is that the rules on what constitutes "retardedness" is not any more clear than when VD was in charge. The only real change to the sites rules - from a posters perspective - seems to be increased tolerance for the posting of NSFW pictures. I guess that's what's really important for the Codex, not Vault Dweller's biting news commentary, interviews and reviews.
 

xedoc gpr

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Haha, if you're going to make a set list of rules for the site, try not to include clever little VD jabs. Grow up.

I realized this was stupid when I discovered we now have a set rule, "Trick links are kind of cool, so you can do them sometimes." God, that's lame.
 

Au naturel

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Other posters, especially Astromarine, have already said what I would say. I will post this just in case an argument comes out with 'Most people like it, that is why they are shutting up'.
 

roshan

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Au naturel said:
Other posters, especially Astromarine, have already said what I would say. I will post this just in case an argument comes out with 'Most people like it, that is why they are shutting up'.

It will probably be a good idea to find out what the general public thinks of the more relaxed rules regarding NSFW images. A poll should be created.
 

Hazelnut

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You guys ousted VD for this reiteration of the same old shit?

VD and Shagnak (and possibly Calis too - it's been hard to keep up with all of it) appeared to be edging towards discussing things and possibly even moving the Codex forward, until DU waded in again like an asshat with an agenda. No one (who spoke up) wanted the Codex to become ESF or happy fairy emo land (MountainWest summed it up pretty well I think) but I think many kinda wanted some kind of evolution. VD seemed like he had some ambition for this site to evolve, not to change completely or anything, and he most certainly had the most drive of any staff member for the last couple of years. Not that I think that VD (or anyone else) as sole Codex tyrant is desirable, and probably would have needed other non-sycophantic admins to keep it real so to speak. But you, DU, pretty much fucked over any kind of compromise and discussion.

Dunno whether you felt threatened by what VD has achieved and you haven't, or whether it's more fear of change... or just nostalgia for the old days when, as someone said in that other thread, there was a knowledge that if you said something stupid, you were gonna get torn a new one. Well those days have gone, DU, and nothing in these rules will bring that back.

Maybe it's not an fair image of your actions and motives, but it does look suspiciously like you've gone on a fucking ego trip power play over the past few days and the end result is that you're so very pleased with the fact you got your own way and beat that nazi VD.

You win, we get it! Whoop-de-fucking-do. Why no "I is winner!" picture, or are you saving that for page 25? :roll:

EDIT: Oh, what Astro posted while I was typing is pretty spot on.
 

Cassidy

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frantic defenestration said:

:roll:

roshan said:
Funny thing is that the rules on what constitutes "retardedness" is not any more clear than when VD was in charge. The only real change to the sites rules - from a posters perspective - seems to be increased tolerance for the posting of NSFW pictures. I guess that's what's really important for the Codex, not Vault Dweller's biting news commentary, interviews and reviews.

This incident is somewhat more complex, it involves what is known as conflict of visions. Instead of conciliation to make the conflict constructive, the "Sieg Heil Seriousness" and "Freedom Forevah!!!!1111" visions shocked until the spearhead of the first started getting the plan under action, but due to other powers, it backfired and this is what it ended into. Then egos got into conflict too an the thing started getting very close and personal with "You're winnahr!" and all. But no matter who won on such conflict, everybody would lose one way or another, because although some may deny, the more strict a moderation policy becomes, it won't matter to some people who will suggest the literal "E-Reich". And I know this because I witnessed forums where rules and draconian measures were constantly increasing and increasing rather than stabilizing into a certain point. So all I wished is that things would remain like they were about 2 months ago instead of escalating into this.

Haha, if you're going to make a set list of rules for the site, try not to include clever little VD jabs. Grow up.

As I said, just don't have written rules, it's a 5 years tradition in Codex their "inexistence". Explicit rules simply serve to allow dumbfucks to know how much of an ass they can be without getting banned or dumbfucked.
 

Crichton

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Well, if the reign of VD is over (for better or worse), can I have my tag switched back? It was nice to torment VD with a reminder of his tantrum, but without him, it's just sort of a millstone.
 

DarkUnderlord

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asper said:
Linking to tubgirl is only an inch away from posting it between tags on the lame-o-meter, imo[/quote]
This is the Codex. We don't ban people for making lame jokes. It's terrible, I know.

[quote="xedoc gpr"]I realized this was stupid when I discovered we now have a set rule, "Trick links are kind of cool, so you can do them sometimes." God, that's lame.[/quote]
I agree but we came to the conclusion that if some of the fuckers here can't lighten the fuck up and have to whinge about everything, clearly we need to spell shit out for them.

We had a choice between banning it all or allowing some of it like we always did. We chose the latter. For those who don't get that, we made rules for them to understand.

inernets is sirius bizness
 

xedoc gpr

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VD and Shagnak (and possibly Calis too - it's been hard to keep up with all of it) appeared to be edging towards discussing things and possibly even moving the Codex forward, until DU waded in again like an asshat with an agenda.

Yes Calis said he wanted to do it too. Before DU came in.

Oddly, DU is the one who was arguing about how VD didn't take "admin consensus" and just did his own thing.
 

Au naturel

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It will probably be a good idea to find out what the general public thinks of the more relaxed rules regarding NSFW images. A poll should be created.

Ah, but polls, while being allowed, will not be listened to. I refer you to the ruleset above. Joseph Heller could not have worked things better :cool:

I guess this is what happens, as usual, when management don't sort out old grievances when they arise at the time. We never really evolve from primary school in many cases.
 

Cassidy

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DarkUnderlord said:
inernets is sirius bizness

Sirius Bizness? If so, can I have your password? Or is it serious business?
 

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