More MCA Codex Trolls.... INCOMING!

[DarkUnderlord]

Evil moustache was nice but in the end, seemed inappropriate.





And if you're going to go Jew, you have to go full Jew.

 

[Stinger]

...I'm starting to regret making the Jewish trolls.

Anyway, I'm on break for the next week so I can do one or two more trolls if people want to request something.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

I like the concept but I'm not so keen on the regular smiley replacements you've done. I'd prefer they were regular smiley size, more inline with this:

 

[Jaesun]

Yeah, I feel the same way about the replacement smilies. They are a good idea but the size is a bit too big. And just need a bit more tweaking.

 

[Stinger]

Sure, I can shrink the sizes. Which ones in particular need tweaking?

 

[Ulminati]

Hello there I just shoved a pair of marshmallows up my nostrils!

That you did. Most impressive.

 

[Stinger]

Ok I have photoshop again so I resized and redrew bits and pieces. For convenience (I really don't want to save everything separately) I've saved it all as one image:

That is as small as I can make them without losing all the details.

Which ones do I need to fix up and what needs to be fixed.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

Which ones do I need to fix up and what needs to be fixed.

All of them. Down to pixel art.

 

[Stinger]

So redraw them with flat pixels rather than photoshop's brush tool?

That might take a while. I'll do that tomorrow or something.

 

[DwarvenFood]

The fuck Stinger why do you do all this ! Don't you see what's going on here ?!

 

[Spectacle]

Is it just me, or does this look like a Rastafarian cyclops?

 

[Gragt]

And jewish too. Let's not forget it.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

why do you do all this

let's not be too hasty here cereal of khazad-dum, perhaps our administrator here is merely being blunt and just cut to the chase instead of leading him around like a deviantart commentator

Stinger while your funding related emoticons got implemented in record time the row of smileys you made before that didn't, I think it's the handbrushed look that doesn't work for smileys
take good old here for example

when you distill and caricaturise any message into an ideogram you need those stark flat edges and simplified shape combinations that serve as immediate visual shorthand

with that in mind I think you should just try adapting just one say the one poking his tongue out first, and make a one-fits all trollhead base for standardisation
if DU doesn't like that well hey you only just worked on one

 

[Falkner]

Isn't that too small? I can barely make out the trolls facial features and I'm sitting two arm-lengths away from a 32" TV.

 

[Stinger]

Thanks heaps for the advice sgc_meltdown, it helped a lot. Would brofist if I could

I took a few days off to get the hang of spriting since it's very different to what I was originally doing. I couldn't get the hang of simply replicating the original trolls I drew, using flat pixels looked really ugly on those guys, so I went for a very different approach, I'm not sure how good it is but it looks more like an emoticon:

Or larger version:

 

[Stinger]

Slightly tweaked large versions (just tweaked the tongue to look less like a pink buck tooth)

 

[Yaar Podshipnik]

Stinger, those definitely look more like emoticons. And I prefer the one with hard outlines (right one).

 

[sgc_meltdown]

dude those are right on and the full set should knock the default xenforo crap back to the curb where they belong
let's see what DU thinks

right now I'd say the chin looks a bit angular for me, but you have the direction totally down on this

 

[DarkUnderlord]

I couldn't get the hang of simply replicating the original trolls I drew

Nope, you won't. Pixelart is an entirely different ball game.

I'm not sure how good it is but it looks more like an emoticon:

Or larger version:

No.

Style-wise, yes. The actual smiley itself needs work now. That looks a bit too round-faced

Also drop it down in size just a tad, somewhere between your current large and small versions.

And get rid of that extra blank space at the bottom so they line up properly.

 

[Stinger]

Slight resize, and little narrower with the fixed chin:

Other variants that I did to change things up or look less round faced:

Together they are:

This guy is my personal favourite though I'm not sure if he's slightly small due to being a bit more narrower, that's why I made this guy

as another possible option- same proportions just a bit larger.

There's no blank space at the bottom, unfortunately imgur just doesn't lineup properly with the emoticons, not so noticeable in larger images but unfortunately the difference is huge for smaller stuff.

 

[Gragt]

That looks like some weird rodent, Final Fallouty style.

 

[kazgar]

That looks like some weird rodent, Final Fallouty style.

Think its because the tongue looks like buck-teeth.

 

[Stinger]

Unfortunately there's not much I can do about that, I can put the tongue at an angle like this

or this

but I'm not sure it's an improvement.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Stinger I think you might try referencing some of the original mca troll faces to zero in on the proportions

it pretty much has this oval leaf looking shape with the horns smaller and more parallel with the curvature of the face, check out DU's say

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oh god look what happened when I gave him eyes

I think the tongue tweak worked out though
#730706 pencil color layer over the entire tongue at 47% opacity

 

[Stinger]

Yeah I see what you mean, by making the horns stay at the same height as the top of the troll's head it prevents it from looking like rodent ears and more like troll horns:

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(which angle for the tongue looks better? I personally prefer the bottom one where it tilts to the left.)

I'm...actually kinda happy with how that looks. They're only slight tweaks but they improve the look by a lot.