Incline Official codex Star Trek Online topic :salute:

[Drakron]

I am just selling those ships, I am still holding on the Hirogen Escort as it was cheap and price inst going to go much down (I think I payed 45m for it) and the Adapted Escort (no idea why, every time I look at it and think about the console set I burst out laughing), that JHAS is a complete waste at this point and I am ditching it now before it floors it, I am already eating a big loss.

The other 2 ... well, JHDC is kinda fixed and I dont recall the price I payed but I dont think I am eating a much of a loss at the price I am putting, the JHEC on the other hand almost doubled in price so overall I am cutting my loses because T5 crap and one being phased out of the game, In the end I am going to take a loss no matter what, I am salvaging what I can because fact is, I have not used those ships until now and now they are simply not worth the ship slot that they would take, I hold then to a Cardassian character and if that happens we might be T8 or whatever idiocy Rivera and his gang comes up with.

 

[Davidshky]

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9080423

Well I guess it's alt making time (in a month or so) and this sound kinda interesting with account wide rewards and stuff.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Well, guess that's a cue to make a Romulan Engineer that'll actually see use.

EDIT: Also, place your bets, is it going to be Kirk, Janeway, or Sisko? Picard is too expensive so it won't be him.

 

[Drakron]

Meh, my plans remain unchanged ... good luck with that since the carrot doesnt seem worth the 10 foot stick.

Also if you want to bet, Taris ... its already on the leaks she and former-Empressess Blond will be in Season 10, I dont think Mulgrew or Brooks are that interested.

 

[Norfleet]

Yo, Drakron, what Drakronity be you up to?

 

[Drakron]

Not much, just R&D projects mostly and DOFFing.

 

[Bliblablubb]

Well, guess that's a cue to make a Romulan Engineer that'll actually see use.

EDIT: Also, place your bets, is it going to be Kirk, Janeway, or Sisko? Picard is too expensive so it won't be him.

Great, just when 2 of the 3 new alts I made for the winter event have reached reputation farming condition... Fuuuuuu and stuff. Knowing Craptic, I will probably be better off rerolling the Fedling than the Romulard, since the story will be very Fed-centric as usual. Goodbye frosted boots. Sadface.

Regarding the identity of the "experienced captain":
Kirk is most likely out. Unless he wants to do it as a tribute to Nimoy, though I think the plans were made before his death.
The part seems to be only a short intro speech, like Patrick Steward has already done for Lolblvion and that weird medieval sims game. Still too expensive for a f2p game though.
Why wasn't Janeway part of the DR cast btw? Scheduling? Costs?
Getting THE SISKO would be awsome, he is in a position to view the future and talk to the player via an orb.

Fingers crossed for THE SISKO!

With our luck it's going to be captain Archer though...

EDIT: Wait, isn't the winter shop still accessable? Hello frosted boots. Happyface.
EDIT part deux:

Also if you want to bet, Taris ... its already on the leaks she and former-Empressess Blond will be in Season 10, I dont think Mulgrew or Brooks are that interested.

It never said "Federation captain" right? Taris is indeed an experienced captain, especially in regards to the Iconians. And probably very cheap to hire.
Bummer.

 

[Subject37]

EDIT: Also, place your bets, is it going to be Kirk, Janeway, or Sisko? Picard is too expensive so it won't be him.

Riker! Taking over from Quinn as head of Starfleet!

Though I wouldn't be surprised if we do see Avery Brooks show up in the game at some point. I'm still convinced that the next big release will be DS9-focused. The Sisko may show up to bring the Founders into the fight against the Iconians.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

The Sisko may show up to bring the Founders Cardie Bastards into the fight against the Iconians.

Fixed.

 

[Subject37]

The Sisko may show up to bring the Founders Cardie Bastards into the fight against the Iconians.

Fixed.

Oh that's a given. Prepare for more forum rage as Cryptic adds a T6 Galor to the C-Store!

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I think Galor rage has been expended a long time ago, given how that ship has been outclassed numerous times already. I haven't seen a Galor in over a year now.

 

[Bliblablubb]

Oh dear, the official board's thread is full of drakrons. We get a free charslot, account-wide trait, xp bonus, marks while doing missions... nope, they don't care. Only complaining. Still no T6 connie! Too much effort to do reps! Uprading equipment! Leveling R&D again (<- my favorite)! No delta symbol beside my main's name!!!!
What did they expect? STO is a pyramid scheme, get fresh players to support the ones playing. At least I got a few good laughs out of reading some people's serious demands....

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I'm not sure any MMO qualifies as a pyramid scheme, given how there's not even promised benefit to the older base. It's just MMO scheme.

 

[Norfleet]

Ahoy thar, Vaarna. What be you up to?

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Doffing and killing CE.

 

[Norfleet]

What do you make of this new thing?

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Rolling an alt when the time comes, I figure. I don't have a Romulan Engineer yet and I have a lot of unused Romulan ships.

 

[Norfleet]

Maybe I should check it out and round up some more goods for my best friend.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

I like that they're playing the Temporal angle... Here's hoping they add more temporal goodies in the future.

 

[Bliblablubb]

I'm not sure any MMO qualifies as a pyramid scheme, given how there's not even promised benefit to the older base. It's just MMO scheme.

The promised benefit for older players is: keep playing without paying.

 

[Drakron]

Oh dear, the official board's thread is full of drakrons.

Good.

We get a free charslot, account-wide trait, xp bonus, marks while doing missions... nope, they don't care.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.
You have no idea what you actually will get, no details and leveling 1-50 might not be so bad but 50-60 is that bad, since DR people stopped making alts because time invested is simply not worthy, people might make mules like my Banlix that was created just to work as storage but a mule and a alt are different things.

What did they expect? STO is a pyramid scheme, get fresh players to support the ones playing. At least I got a few good laughs out of reading some people's serious demands....

STO isnt going to attract new players, they might get tourists but the few idiots they can get arent going to sustain the game but I dont think its their intent either ... people simply stopped making new characters and just running in maintenance mode, they run R&D, Rep and then quit ... alts were ditched because pre-DR are simply in a situation were leveling is simply a horrible experience so they did this trying to get their metrics up but since this is "make new alts" and then they expect most people to simply go down leveling 1-60 and then they can show PWE that Star Trek Online is not only healthy but growing and simply sweep the problem away under the rug until the end of the Summer Event they also are hoping to keep the numbers up.

As usual instead of addressing they created with DR they are trying to hide them, end result ... 1 month later we will be back at the situation we have now and that if their plan actual works, nevermind the issues they caused that arent fixed, I aint running any Borg Space STF with their fucking insane TB drain and that isnt fixed, in fact I am going to be amused when people face Borg Spheres during leveling and will face that.

 

[Bliblablubb]

But... isn't that how all MMOs work? Throw players a bone once in a while to keep them logging in keep the old players entertained for a short while?

So far every MMO I played was either about the "way towards maximum level", followed by a hole of nothing. Maybe large group endgame raids whose purpose was just to get items for.. having better items.
Or it was about making PvP the real endgame content people were just gearing up to, like DAoC or ESO did.
Blancing PvP and PvE content is a bitch and PvP usually creates a large rift between hardcore players and more casuals in terms of equipment and time invested.

Of course, when games are not f2p, it is all about making leveling as long as possible to keep the subscriptions active. Leveling in STO is extremely fast compared to other games, because Craptic's income seems to rely on selling keys and ships. It's not surprising that they try to get a few tourists to lvl50 fast and buy a few ships. Most of them will not stay, but a meager 25 bucks for ship is probably acceptable for a few weeks of fun for them. IF they even attract many tourists that is. Not excactly a healthy long term plan.

Sometimes I am genuinely surprised that STO even made it this far, but WoW still has 10 mio people paying a monthly fee after 10 years, so what do I know...


Sooo Drakron, what would you change to make the game more attractive to longtime players? DISCUSS!

 

[Drakron]

Well ... in this case I doubt it.

DR appears to have made a great dent on the player population, it seems a lot of people just up and walked and the ones that remained arent playing for as long as they did, pre-DR you could make alt, level relatively fast and it would be a entirely functional character ... with DR things changed as you have a lot of extra grinding with specialization points, people simply concentrated on a few characters and ditched the rest, meaning people that played 2-3 hours now play 1 hour or less because they no longer bother with alts.

Also I think their revenue taken a nose dive because with T5 obsolete they destroyed sustainable sales, people did buy older ships over time so they always sold to some degree but now ... I dont think tourists will spend much money, whatever people they could have attracted they did it in F2P transition and LoR, I do think they rely far too much on ship sales and they are caught in a loop of releasing +1 ships until they will run out of ideas, when the game will have 500+ ships people will be likely be fed up with it, they are drowning people with ships and when you release a +1 after a +1 after a +1 people wise up and wait, they have to figure out other ways to make money but here is the problem, it seems the system leads is too concerned about instant sales so if something doesnt sell, he ditches it and this is why we have almost no new KDF or Romulan uniforms because "they dont sell" on the short term, the man is so shortsighted that he started talking about another raising the level cap when with the specialization system we have a unlimited level cap as long they create specializations, no wonder the game is in such a mess when the primary idea behind anything they do is not that how it works but how to make people pay how much for it.

Also if you want to know what they could do for long time players ... they already have to some degree, that is the Veteran Rewards system but they would need to use something like SWTOR legacy system were each character you play and everything you complete unlocks perks, a system that reads account instead of character but the Veteran system is simply a small perk for subscribers that isnt much in depth and only rewards pay time, it was just created to keep people subbed.

 

[eklektyk]

shame that when i finnally decided undeadstardestroyer beamdisco is way to go they go with this "but u should make new alt" thingie ...

this new farm wont have this event cruiser ... i cant even go torp boat coz no winter breen ship either ... it kinda sucks hard that event ...

still i prob roll kdf eng coz eng i dont have ...might as well se how that plays

 

[Bliblablubb]

this new farm wont have this event cruiser ... i cant even go torp boat coz no winter breen ship either ... it kinda sucks hard that event ...

Yeah, I missed the Dyson boat with my sci toons as well. At least I have the Guardian/Martha/Fartbird/Derpi to fall back to, and there's the nearly decent free T5 ship.
Do real free players actually get the T5 @lvl40 or are they stuck with some even lower level dinghy if they were not around to claim the free ambassador during giveaway?

Since we get a free char slot I will roll a Fedling engineer. Everytime I made something else than a tac, I always ended up doffing them to 50, so I never actually "played" them. The Guardian will work well with an engi and Fed is the default faction for Craptic after all, so it seems like a good plan.
However, if it turns out that our mystical captain from the past is really Taris, I might switch to rerolling the Romulard sci. What can I say, I am a Romulard fanboi after all...