Incline RPG Codex's Top 50 cRPGs - Results and Reviews

[SionIV]

http://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=810

Why do you even take that seriously?

Speedrun with an average of 65 hours? What the hell? Is the player blind and spending time on RPGCodex at the same time as playing?

Rushing the main story only and it takes 56 hours. I would love to see them play Arcanum, Cleve might complete a game before they make it to Tarant.

 

[Jasede]

These figures are accurate; tired of try-hard people trying to get imaginary e-cred, zz.

 

[SionIV]

I could get it done in less than 10 hours, and the current record is 1 hour and 11 minutes, so I'm not even close to the top.

http://speedrunwiki.com/Baldur's_Gate_II:_Shadows_of_Amn

There is one even shorter than the 1 hour and 11 minutes.

[Edited] : Playing a M/T and abusing pickpocket in Waukeen, I could do main quest only in 5 hours, without skipping the underdark.

 

[Alchemist]

Who the fuck cares how fast you can speed run a game? That's a degenerate way to play and not what the design intended (in most RPGs). Most people will want to take their time and enjoy the ride, especially on a first playthrough.

 

[SionIV]

No one cares about how fast you can speed run a game, but saying that the average game time of Baldur's Gate 2 is 100+ hours, is just plain stupid. It is a long, detailed and wonderful game, but it sure as hell is no 100+ hour game unless you read every single dialogue, or go afk to wait for the romance dialogues to appear.

 

[Jasede]

It's definitely like 100+ on your first time through and like 60 on subsequent times if you do everything. Not sure what you are trying to prove.

For the record, I can beat it in 10 hours just as well, but... that's not really the point, is it?

 

[SionIV]

It's definitely like 100+ on your first time through and like 60 on subsequent times if you do everything. Not sure what you are trying to prove.

For the record, I can beat it in 10 hours just as well, but... that's not really the point, is it?

"You're more than twice as fast as the fastest recorded main quest only run on that site. Are you a professional speedrunner?"

I'm correcting people who are stupid enough to think that a speedrun of Baldur's Gate II would take 50+ hours, or that a main quest only would take 50+ hours, because there are 10+ slow as hell players on a random site that went into a poll.

Baldur's Gate 2 was one of the biggest games released back then, but those 150-200 hour playthroughs are mostly myths, first timers, or abnormally slow players.

 

[Jasede]

Nobody actually thinks the game takes 50+ hours to speedrun. You're looking at a site where everyone can enter data. The only person who did took 50+ hours in his 'fast' playthrough. The sample size (1) gives enough of a clue. And when people say 150-200 hours they're probably including restarts / replays.

 

[SionIV]

Nobody actually thinks the game takes 50+ hours to speedrun. You're looking at a site where everyone can enter data. The only person who did took 50+ hours in his 'fast' playthrough. The sample size (1) gives enough of a clue. And when people say 150-200 hours they're probably including restarts / replays.

Change Nobody to Bubbles, and I don't have anything else to add.

http://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=810

It takes me around 25-30 hours to complete the SoA campaign (not watcher's keep), and I do everything in it.

You're more than twice as fast as the fastest recorded main quest only run on that site. Are you a professional speedrunner?

 

[Art Vandelay]

As time passes by,more and more stupids will spawn in here,getting more and more vocal,encouraged by their own increasing numbers.

 

[Sceptic]

Ultima 4-6 (and probably 7 as well) has great exploration, but you explore the same world in each game, so only the first one you play will be completely "fresh".

Re-exploring to find what has changed (and a lot does in each game) is great though, and no other series really does this.

 

[Morality Games]

My first time through Baldur's Gate 2 took about 70 hours. I did almost every bit of content, 70% on Hard and the last 30% on Easy (Underdark end game got on my nerves).

 

[Jasede]

You were pretty fast compared to my first time.

 

[Morality Games]

You were pretty fast compared to my first time.

You probably had more fun discovering things though. I mostly spammed fireball. And Haste. Spammed fireball and Haste for days.

Didn't work on the dragon fights though. Since it was difficult (impossible?) to beat the last dragon the way I had built my party (and there being no other sources of experience having beaten every other part of the game), I had to bribe him with all my treasures; luckily I was able to put all of my stuff on the ground in advance, he doesn't recognize the difference.

Lost Boo though. The game wouldn't let me unequip him from Minsc's inventory so the dragon got him.

 

[kwanzabot]

NO way BG2 takes 100+ hours unless you spend most of your time dying and reloading.

 

[bloodlover]

Could someone please tell me why KOTOR 2 is better than the first one? I thought the general impression is that the first one is the better of the two.

 

[Jasede]

zz

 

[kwanzabot]

Could someone please tell me why KOTOR 2 is better than the first one? I thought the general impression is that the first one is the better of the two.

the 2nd one is more gritty

more RAW

 

[Rivmusique]

 

[Jozoz]

Could someone please tell me why KOTOR 2 is better than the first one? I thought the general impression is that the first one is the better of the two.

MCA

 

[Morality Games]

Could someone please tell me why KOTOR 2 is better than the first one? I thought the general impression is that the first one is the better of the two.

Reason is better writing, better characters, and more intriguing premise. Kotor did its best to extrapolate the spirit of Star Wars to console role playing games. MCA endeavored to elevate the material, creating perhaps the finest Star Wars story ever. The complex nature of the dialogues with companions made it the first true spiritual successor to Planescape: Torment.

 

[Crooked Bee]

As someone who doesn't care about Star Wars at all, I'd say the only good Star Wars story ever.

 

[Morality Games]

Worth noting though that it works like a novel. Starts with a heady mystery, moves slow, and gradually gets better. Original Kotor started with the PC flying into action.

 

[Jaesun]

As someone who doesn't care about Star Wars at all, I'd say the only good Star Wars story ever.

I agree. There was just enough for the SW fans, but the rest was just an interesting story and characters, regardless of the setting.

 

[Roid King]

The dearth of Japanese faggotry on this list is glorious.