Should I play The Witcher 2?

[DraQ]

While I don't like QTES much - I think his point is more that when you expect QTEs organically evolving from the game play as its part of its staple its fine. When its tossed in randomly at moments it gets silly and just leads to reload and redo knowing its coming.

Thanks for explaining this better than I did. What I mean is you play Heavy Rain and you know there are going to be QTEs, so you're usually prepared for it (as much as you can prepare it, because you never know what button it's going to ask you to push or whatever). As opposed to Resident Evil 4, where you are inevitably going to die every time a QTE comes up because there are only a handful of them, they are very infrequent, and the first one doesn't show up until several hours into the story.

My point is that QTEs can be done right and, in the case of a game like Heavy Rain, can be a lot of fun. They can also be done horribly, horribly wrong.

For the most part, they don't belong anywhere near RPGs. But I will take the QTE fist fights in TW2 over the awful hand to hand combat of TW1 any day.

QTEs can't be done right and can't organically evolve from the gameplay because of the reason highlighted.

They are never going to be natural feeling extension of game's mechanics because they are inherently un-mechanics, and they will never feel like natural extension of game's controlsbecause they are inherently un-controls.

With normal mechanics and normal controls you can familiarize yourself with how the gameworld functions and how to express your actions in the gameworld in terms of game's interface, so when game forces you to react to something you can react purposefully based on some mental model of the situation and actions you expect to take care of it.
With QTEs you don't know what key you will be asked to use and have no clue what it will do, so you're forced to act cluelessly, based not on your understanding of the situation but on the prompt displayed.

As much as cutscene rollercoasters can be fucking awful, QTEs are automatically even worse, because they actively draw your attention from not only game's mechanics, but game's fiction as well.


All this said, if any of you still considers QTEs to be a viable element of a game then you're a fucking moron and I can't help you.

 

[Akratus]

You don't know what button comes up in the fighting minigame? The one with 4 buttons randomly appearing? It's just a reaction time test like action gameplay.

They could have made it a tactical bit of fisticuffs, reminiscent of good fighting games. But it's a minigame, I'd rather have this than nothing. And I'd rather have them work on other things than work on this too much.

 

[DraQ]

Fighting minigame was a snoozefest.

I don't see how one could lose it.

 

[jagged-jimmy]

Bought on release on GOG, not even installed yet...

 

[DraQ]

Bought on release on GOG, not even installed yet...

 

[DalekFlay]

"Too cool to play games I paid for, bro."

 

[jagged-jimmy]

I just don't have the desire to play it. Why torture myself. I was a bit hyped up by Codex, which just turned to be a temporary opinion. Also mostly bought it to support GOG and the Company behind it. I played the 2 games, which came free with it though (part of their fair prices model). So yeah, i played IWD and Desperados from this deal.

 

[Akratus]

Dude, come on. When it comes to your personal taste in rpg's it might be torture but it's not torture in any sense of the word when it's between that or something like Bioshock: Infinite or the next need for speed/assassin's creed etc. etc.

You're really not giving CDProjektRed enough credit if you throw them in with just any of the general filth that comprises modern gaming.

 

[Declinator]

You're really not giving CDProjektRed enough credit if you throw them in with just any of the general filth that comprises modern gaming.

Nah, that's pretty much what they deserve.

 

[Volourn]

CDP sucks. The best thing about their games is nudie cards. Hell, that's the only good thing about their games. Shit combat, shit story, shit characters, shit graphics, shit music, shit voice overs, shit CV&C, shit role-playing, shit, shit, shit.

 

[Dreaad]

CDP sucks. The best thing about their games is nudie cards. Hell, that's the only good thing about their games. Shit combat, shit story, shit characters, shit graphics, shit music, shit voice overs, shit CV&C, shit role-playing, shit, shit, shit.

Amusingly enough they couldn't even come up with their own story or setting or chars or protagonist.

 

[Brayko]

I can't stand it, personally, but there should be fun to be had if you like 3rd person ARPG's that slightly fall out of the Bethesda Empire.

 

[DraQ]

CDP sucks. The best thing about their games is nudie cards. Hell, that's the only good thing about their games. Shit combat, shit story, shit characters, shit graphics, shit music, shit voice overs, shit CV&C, shit role-playing, shit, shit, shit.

Amusingly enough they couldn't even come up with their own story

In TW1, that's partly true.

The fact that you're agreeing with Volourn should have given you a clue though.

 

[DalekFlay]

agreeing with Volourn

The worst custom title imaginable.

 

[Dreaad]

CDP sucks. The best thing about their games is nudie cards. Hell, that's the only good thing about their games. Shit combat, shit story, shit characters, shit graphics, shit music, shit voice overs, shit CV&C, shit role-playing, shit, shit, shit.

Amusingly enough they couldn't even come up with their own story

In TW1, that's partly true.

The fact that you're agreeing with Volourn should have given you a clue though.

So it's partly true... but I'm not allowed to say so?

 

[DraQ]

CDP sucks. The best thing about their games is nudie cards. Hell, that's the only good thing about their games. Shit combat, shit story, shit characters, shit graphics, shit music, shit voice overs, shit CV&C, shit role-playing, shit, shit, shit.

Amusingly enough they couldn't even come up with their own story

In TW1, that's partly true.

The fact that you're agreeing with Volourn should have given you a clue though.

So it's partly true... but I'm not allowed to say so?

Hint:
The thread is about Witcher 2.

 

[Junmarko]

One thing I HATED in TW2 (story/aesthetic wise) was if you side with Iorveth. After which you are quickly escorted to the 'Generic-Scottish-Dwarf-Carved-Into-The-Mountain-City-With-A-Mine-Shaft.
Overall the lore is pretty original, but for some reason this just got under my skin. I never noticed much of this crap in the first game, which proudly presented it's Polish inspired architecture etc. Why are so many writers afraid of moving away from the Tolkien stereotypes?! It really fucking irritates me.

However, at least it wasn't as pathetic as Bioware with DA:O. Who literally just ripped Ironforge from World of Warcraft and pasted it in.

 

[Volourn]

No.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

Yes

 

[DalekFlay]

Maybe.

 

[Makabb]

It's not as boring as witcher 1.

1 - shit
2 - meh
3 - fun

 

[adddeed]

It's not as boring as witcher 1.

1 - shit
2 - meh
3 - fun

Oh look a dumbfuck.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

There's some grorious irony potential just waiting to happen here.

 

[Brayko]

It's not as boring as witcher 1.

1 - shit
2 - meh
3 - fun

1. Potential
2. Shit/meh borderline
3. Good

 

[Gozma]

Do people that like Witcher 2 think it picks up after a while? I hate the start but a lot of games I ended up liking had a bad start. But if people that like it like the start a lot, I figure I won't bother.