Game News Double Fine’s next Kickstarter game is Massive Chalice

[J_C]

See. You have faith in a small, inexperienced studio. I have faith in a veteran studio, which made good, although somewhat consolised games. We will see how will they turn out.

 

[Metro]

If you aren't on the DF payroll, J_C, you should be.

 

[Grunker]

If you aren't on the DF payroll, J_C, you should be.

If what he is expressing here should put on him on the DF payroll, he should be on the payroll for every developer except Interplay, lol.

 

[Metro]

Just like every good journalist: never met a game he didn't like!

 

[eric__s]

Should you be skeptical and inquisitive about game concepts and the credentials of the people making them? Yes, that is appropriate not just for Kickstarter, but for all games. Should you be a shit-eating loudmouth idiot about something you don't know anything about on a forum where nobody likes you? The verdict's still out on that one, Branm.

The generational bloodline idea is very cool and this reminds me of a couple of games that have done similar things - a few of the Fire Emblem games, Generation of Chaos, some of the Koei and Paradox strategy games. This sounds like it could be pretty good and depending on how things go, I might back this.

 

[evdk]

Should you be skeptical and inquisitive about game concepts and the credentials of the people making them? Yes, that is appropriate not just for Kickstarter, but for all games. Should you be a shit-eating loudmouth idiot about something you don't know anything about on a forum where nobody likes you? The verdict's still out on that one, Branm.

The generational bloodline idea is very cool and this reminds me of a couple of games that have done similar things - a few of the Fire Emblem games, Generation of Chaos, some of the Koei and Paradox strategy games. This sounds like it could be pretty good and depending on how things go, I might back this.

Sure. The problem is that the KS video contained two parts parody, two parts unfunny skit, two parts weird whiteboard drawings and finally one part interesting game idea. In addition to that they have next to no experience with the genre, the project is manned by what one must consider to be DF's bench and it was all just terribly unfunny, oh my god what is wrong with you people?

Ehm.

It might turn out pretty awesome (I would love for that to happen) but I remain sceptical. The success of the campaign is almost assured anyway, so I feel comfortable sitting this one out and purchasing this once it comes out, if the game is good.

 

[Grunker]

Should you be skeptical and inquisitive about game concepts and the credentials of the people making them? Yes, that is appropriate not just for Kickstarter, but for all games. Should you be a shit-eating loudmouth idiot about something you don't know anything about on a forum where nobody likes you? The verdict's still out on that one, Branm.

The generational bloodline idea is very cool and this reminds me of a couple of games that have done similar things - a few of the Fire Emblem games, Generation of Chaos, some of the Koei and Paradox strategy games. This sounds like it could be pretty good and depending on how things go, I might back this.

While I'm sympathetic to your view, there is a reasoned criticism to this pitch, and evdk sums it up nicely.

 

[Borelli]

All this "they have no experience in turn-based" talk, i don't understand it. Are the gates of TB locked for anybody who didn't work on X-COM or JA? Any good game designer is not a one trick pony and should AT LEAST be familiar with several genres. I personally would love to see the spin that Double Fine will put on this genre.

 

[evdk]

Their previous foray into the realm of strategy (albeit RT) did not end so well.

So taken in context: Noname creator with zero actually exciting titles under his belt - strike one. Zero experience with the TB genre - strike two. Previous attempt to leave their comfort zone being a mixed bag - strike three.

But it's not that I'm unwilling to give this a chance, it's just that I do not believe in the project enough to preorder.

 

[General Maxson]

Their inspiration is actually the NEW X-Com game, and there will be no "political incorrectness". As expected. I'm not buying this hipster shit...

 

[J_C]

If you aren't on the DF payroll, J_C, you should be.

One can only dream...

So taken in context: Noname creator with zero actually exciting titles under his belt - strike one. Zero experience with the TB genre - strike two.

Oh come on, people pledged for other devs like these. FTL (although not TB), Expeditions comes into mind first, but I'm sure we could find some more. And although not on kickstarter, lets not forget about AOD. Does VD have any previous game which could be a reference?

 

[felipepepe]

Oh come on, people pledged for other devs like these. FTL (although not TB), Expeditions comes into mind first, but I'm sure we could find some more.

Yeah, but Expeditions had a full trailer of the game, with tons of gameplay, not just a funny video with 30 secs about the actual game... this feels like the guy had a ideia, wrote it on a napkin and then ran to Kickstarter...

 

[evdk]

Oh come on, people pledged for other devs like these. FTL (although not TB), Expeditions comes into mind first, but I'm sure we could find some more.

Yeah, but Expeditions had a full trailer of the game, with tons of gameplay, not just a funny video with 30 secs about the actual game... this feels like the guy had a ideia, wrote it on a napkin and then ran to Kickstarter...

And Vince has all his posting history here on the 'Dex, so you know what you can expect, and he only made the pre-orders available after two demos, one of which showed one full city full of gameplay. This has an interesting idea and a company with a troubled history.

 

[Eyeball]

I expect it to be a Classic DF game. As in, beautiful, funny, stylish, original and charming, but with mediocre gameplay.

Will still buy. Cuz Tim Schaefer. And so will you.

 

[evdk]

I expect it to be a Classic DF game. As in, beautiful, funny, stylish, original and charming, but with mediocre gameplay.

Will still buy. Cuz Tim Schaefer. And so will you.

Schaefer has nothing to do with the game. Iron Brigade wasn't good. You do the math.

 

[J_C]

Oh come on, people pledged for other devs like these. FTL (although not TB), Expeditions comes into mind first, but I'm sure we could find some more.

Yeah, but Expeditions had a full trailer of the game, with tons of gameplay, not just a funny video with 30 secs about the actual game... this feels like the guy had a ideia, wrote it on a napkin and then ran to Kickstarter...

Still, most Kickstarters are like Double Fine's. They don't have too much to show, just the idea. That's why I'm not upset about it. This is how lots of kickstarters roll. I understand for many, this is not enough. For me, if the company is one I know I can trust, I pledge.

I expect it to be a Classic DF game. As in, beautiful, funny, stylish, original and charming, but with mediocre gameplay.

Will still buy. Cuz Tim Schaefer. And so will you.

Schaefer has nothing to do with the game. Iron Brigade wasn't good. You do the math.

It was good.

 

[Branm]

lo 8-10 hrs length.... oohhhh rly??? ROFL the lack of track record developing anysort f tactical game already showing.

How long will the game be?
We’re too early in development to estimate the length of a typical campaign, but we’re aiming at a length similar to the new XCOM game, ~8-10 hours. We’re also focusing on replayability and investigating time-scale options so you can tailor the campaign’s length to your liking!

 

[J_C]

Is the new X-Com really 8-10 hours long? I though it was longer?

 

[Borelli]

Them using new X-COM instead of old one just made me lose my hardon.

 

[felipepepe]

Is the new X-Com really 8-10 hours long? I though it was longer?

Well, it's a game that really depends on the player... I beated it in 208 days, the huge battleships didn't even show... was probably around 8hs, but I can see it bloating a lot if you lose entire teams or farm some OVNIs...

 

[Direwolf]

Cancelled my pledge for this due to the all the added faggotry.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Double fine are shit.

 

[stony3k]

Cancelled my pledge for this due to the all the added faggotry.

Same here

 

[Absalom]

Time-scaling to "adjust" campaign length? That isn't adding length, that's fafffing about to pad game play.

 

[AN4RCHID]

Meh. Seems like a Fire Emblem rip off and idgaf about Fire Emblem. And Massive Chalice is massive fail at naming.

But hey, I'm glad all the gay-marriage obsessed Kickstarter backers have finally found a game to hijack with their political agenda call home.