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Good ideas found in myths and folklore

Qwinn

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I have some ideas for what I think would be a pretty cool sci-fi setting with tons of cool writing possibilities, but I'm holding off telling anybody about it in the hopes I can someday tell someone who'd be willing to fund actually making it, heh.

Or, I'll have to just get around to writing a novel in that setting first. But I think it'd work better as a game.

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Qwinn said:
I have some ideas for what I think would be a pretty cool sci-fi setting with tons of cool writing possibilities, but I'm holding off telling anybody about it in the hopes I can someday tell someone who'd be willing to fund actually making it, heh.

Or, I'll have to just get around to writing a novel in that setting first. But I think it'd work better as a game.

Qwinn
Thanks for sharing that.. tidbit of worthlessness. :roll:
 

Qwinn

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Well, it's not like anyone -with- funding's gonna ask me about it unless I leave -some- sort of hook out there :p

Qwinn
 

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This have I learned, Qwinn: funding never walks up and asks. You have to seek funding out, buy it dinner, whisper naughty things in its ear and do dirty things to it before it finally goes "ahhh, okay. Maybe I'll help you make this 'game' of yours." It's a dirty business, this looking for funding. Maybe not in such tawdry terms, maybe it wears business suits and likes to look at shit like pie charts and graphs promising it will be making Something Really Super Great, but it's never something that comes to YOU. You've gotta tart yourself up a bit to sell that concept.

I guess, without saying "whore out your idea," you gotta WORK ON IT and be able to sum it up quick and shiny to get the funding to make it work. You really want it to live? You gotta do it your ownself, or tart it up enough to get the funds to hire others to do so. I'm hoping to do the former, as I have no illusions that I'll really get any real company to make those games.

Also, Vesikko was based on this, not a lovely mink. Submarine racing game.

...I told you, I was a newb, and that was as mainstream as I thought. I was like "motherfuckers don't do fuckall 3D racing, why not underwater." Mod your sub, put together your sub team. Seriously, that was as mainstream as it got.

Shit if I keep putting my old game ideas out there I'm going to sound likeAWESOM-O. I must stop! And can you believe there's a Wiki entry for "AWESOM-O"? Jesu Christo.
 

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Cartman deserves it.
Anyway, since the thread is already derailed:
King of Dragon Pass (surprised Frank didn't mention it)
Populous
Black & White


Apart from that, I'd like to see some (RP)games that feature non-modern/christian morality. E.g. the Germans were so pissed about Roman rules because the Romans had jurisdiction, judges and the like. How dare they judge a free man? How dare they punish a free man with death?
Generally something that takes away the known and safe and exchanges it with the unknown. An exciting new world/reality to explore with rules that are different from ours. The last games to really try something like that was PS:T and KoDP.

Otherwise I wouldn't mind some faithfull Norse or Celtic mythology. A mini-game riding the Puca FTW^^
 

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King of Dragon Pass had a great feel about it. Can't put my finger's on it's influences (perhaps a bit Norse?) but damn trying to do the right thing for the fables was cool.
 

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oscarisaiah said:
King of Dragon Pass had a great feel about it. Can't put my finger's on it's influences (perhaps a bit Norse?) but damn trying to do the right thing for the fables was cool.
Norse and Celtic. Mostly Celtic, IMO.
 

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Annie Carlson said:
The Ninth Circle said:
<awesome>

Back in the day, when I was but a pup in the game industry, I proposed a game where you played as a fallen deity. Well, not "fallen" like as the devil, but "fallen" as in your name had faded. Hundreds of years before, another pantheon of deities had led in an invading force, and used an artifact to "seal" you and the other gods in stones. With your people busy with trying to fight off an invading force, their usual devotions were interrupted, sapping your strength to break out and fight back; and as you were unable to grant their requests for aid, soon their culture fell and was conquered.

Ages later, a group of rather foolish but greedy adventurers (I think it was a priest, a male rogue-type guy, and a burly female fighter) came along and inadvertently freed you - and you, being an angry god, immediately subverted them to your will. By yourself you can't fight the other pantheon... but with the priest being the herald of your new religion (and going from town to town secretly converting people into new believers to give you power), and "possessing" the fighter and rogue to do your dirty work, the goal was to conquer territory, get followers, free the other members of your pantheon, and defeat/drive out the gods of the invaders.

I wish I had that concept back. Yeah, I found out later it was a lot like Actraiser (which I'd never played, sadly), but man, I liked the idea a LOT.

...also anything based on the Ramayana would be seriously sweet.

I got a slight chubby reading that :oops:
And Actraiser is fun as hell.
 

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The Jew Among Thorns

There was once a rich man, who had a servant who served him diligently and honestly. He was every morning the first out of bed, and the last to go to rest at night, and whenever there was a difficult job to be done, which nobody cared to undertake, he was always the first to set himself to it. Moreover, he never complained, but was contented with everything and always merry.

When a year was ended, his master gave him no wages, for he said to himself, that is the cleverest way, for I shall save something and he will not go away, but stay quietly in my service. The servant said nothing, but did his work the second year as he had done it the first, and when at the end of this, likewise, he received no wages, he submitted and still stayed on. When the third year also was past, the master considered, put his hand in his pocket, but pulled nothing out. Then at last the servant said, master, for three years I have served you honestly, be so good as to give me what I ought to have, for I wish to leave, and look about me a little more in the world. Yes, my good fellow, answered the old miser, you have served me industriously, and therefore you shall be graciously rewarded. And he put his hand into his pocket, but counted out only three farthings, saying, there, you have a farthing for each year, that is large and liberal pay, such as you would have received from few masters. The honest servant, who understood little about money, put his fortune into his pocket, and thought, ah, now that I have my purse full, why need I trouble and plague myself any longer with hard work.

So on he went, up hill and down dale, and sang and jumped to his heart's content. Now it came to pass that as he was going by a thicket a little man stepped out, and called to him, whither away, merry brother. I see you do not carry many cares. Why should I be sad, answered the servant, I have enough. Three years, wages are jingling in my pocket. How much is your treasure, the dwarf asked him. How much. Three farthings sterling, all told. Look here, said the dwarf, I am a poor needy man, give me your three farthings, I can work no longer but you are young, and can easily earn your bread. And as the servant had a good heart, and felt pity for the little man, he gave him the three farthings, saying, take them in the name of heaven, I shall not be any the worse for it.

Then the little man said, as I see you have a good heart I grant you three wishes, one for each farthing, they shall all be fulfilled. Aha, said the servant, you are one of those who can work wonders. Well, then, if it is to be so, I wish, first, for a gun, which shall hit everything that I aim at, secondly, for a fiddle, which when I play on it, shall compel all who hear it to dance, thirdly, that if I ask a favor of any one he shall not be able to refuse it. All that shall you have, said the dwarf, and put his hand into the bush, and just imagine, there lay a fiddle and gun, all ready, just as if they had been ordered. These he gave to the servant, and then said to him, whatever you may ask at any time, no man in the world shall be able to deny you. Heart alive. What more can one desire, said the servant, to himself, and went merrily onwards.

Soon afterwards he met a Jew with a long goat's beard, who was standing listening to the song of a bird which was sitting up at the top of a tree. Good heavens, he was exclaiming, that such a small creature should have such a fearfully loud voice. If it were but mine. If only someone would sprinkle some salt upon its tail. If that is all, said the servant, the bird shall soon be down here. And taking aim he blew, and down fell the bird into the thorn-bushes. Go, you rogue, he said to the Jew, and fetch the bird out for yourself. Oh, said the Jew, leave out the rogue, my master, and I will do it at once. I will get the bird out for myself, now that you have hit it. Then he lay down on the ground, and began to crawl into the thicket. When he was fast among the thorns, the good servant's humor so tempted him that he took up his fiddle and began to play. In a moment the Jew's legs began to move, and to jump into the air, and the more the servant fiddled the better went the dance. But the thorns tore his shabby coat from him, combed his beard, and pricked and plucked him all over the body. Oh, dear, cried the Jew, what do I want with your fiddling. Leave the fiddle alone master, I do not want to dance. But the servant did not listen to him, and thought, you have fleeced people often enough, now the thorn-bushes shall do the same to you. And he began to play over again, so that the Jew had to jump higher than ever, and scraps of his coat were left hanging on the thorns. Oh, woe's me, cried the Jew, I will give the gentleman whatsoever he asks if only he leaves off fiddling, a whole purseful of gold. If you are so liberal, said the servant, I will stop my music, but this I must say to your credit, that you dance to it so well that one must really admire it. And having taken the purse he went his way.

The Jew stood still and watched the servant quietly until he was far off and out of sight, and then he screamed out with all his might, you miserable musician, you beer-house fiddler. Wait till I catch you alone, I will hunt you till the soles of your shoes fall off. You ragamuffin, just put six farthings in your mouth, that you may be worth three halfpence. And went on abusing him as fast as he could speak. As soon as he had refreshed himself a little in this way, and got his breath again, he ran into the town to the justice. My lord judge, he said, I have come to make a complaint, see how a rascal has robbed and ill-treated me on the public highway. A stone on the ground might pity me, my clothes all torn, my body pricked and scratched, my little all gone with my purse - good ducats, each piece better than the last, for God's sake let the man be thrown into prison. Was it a soldier, said the judge, who cut you thus with his sabre. Nothing of the sort, said the Jew, it was no sword that he had, but a gun hanging at his back, and a fiddle at his neck, the wretch may easily be recognized.

So the judge sent his people out after the man, and they found the good servant, who had been going quite slowly along, and they found, too, the purse with the money upon him. As soon as he was taken before the judge he said, I did not touch the Jew, nor take his money, he gave it to me of his own free will, that I might leave off fiddling because he could not bear my music. Heaven defend us, cried the Jew, his lies are as thick as flies upon the wall. But the judge also did not believe his tale, and said, this is a bad defence, no Jew would do that. And because he had committed robbery on the public highway, he sentenced the good servant to be hanged.

As he was being led away the Jew again screamed after him, you vagabond. You dog of a fiddler. Now you are going to receive your well-earned reward. The servant walked quietly with the hangman up the ladder, but upon the last step he turned round and said to the judge, grant me just one request before I die. Yes, if you do not ask your life, said the judge. I do not ask for life, answered the servant, but as a last favor let me play once more upon my fiddle. The Jew raised a great cry of, murder. Murder. For goodness, sake do not allow it. Do not allow it. But the judge said, why should I not let him have this short pleasure. It has been granted to him, and he shall have it. However, he could not have refused on account of the gift which had been bestowed on the servant. Then the Jew cried, oh. Woe's me. Tie me, tie me fast. While the good servant took his fiddle from his neck, and made ready. As he gave the first scrape, they all began to quiver and shake, the judge, his clerk, and the hangman and his men, and the cord fell out of the hand of the one who was going to tie the Jew fast. At the second scrape they all leaped up and began to dance, the judge and the Jew being the best at jumping. Soon all who had gathered in the market-place out of curiosity were dancing with them, old and young, fat and lean, one with another. The dogs, likewise, which had run there, got up on their hind legs and capered about, and the longer he played, the higher sprang the dancers, so that they knocked against each other's heads and began to shriek terribly. At length the judge cried, quite of breath, I will give you your life if you will only stop fiddling. The good servant thereupon had compassion, took his fiddle and hung it round his neck again, and stepped down the ladder.

Then he went up to the Jew, who was lying upon the ground panting for breath, and said, you rascal, now confess, whence you got the money, or I will take my fiddle and begin to play again. I stole it, I stole it, cried he, but you have honestly earned it. So the judge had the Jew taken to the gallows and hanged as a thief.
 

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JarlFrank said:
Well, yes mythology has great ideas, but usually games that are based on mythology like to rape the setting by introducing new "cool" parts to the story or just otherwise changing the original story in order to make it more "enjoyable" to the target audience.

Just like fat fuck Peter Action-Jackson did to the Lord of the Rings novels...
 

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Spacemoose said:
The Jew Among Thorns
Fun tale


Thats' why someone should do a true rpg about the Changeling series of the World of darkness, both the Dreaming and the Lost have enough potential to use any myth and/or epic stories (in the good sense).
 

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Shannow said:
oscarisaiah said:
King of Dragon Pass had a great feel about it. Can't put my finger's on it's influences (perhaps a bit Norse?) but damn trying to do the right thing for the fables was cool.
Norse and Celtic. Mostly Celtic, IMO.

I didn't mention it because it's based on a fantasy P&P setting, which in itself is strongly mythology-based. Too bad the only P&P setting that is frequently made into PC games is D&D Forgotten Realms...
 

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Speaking of ideas, I was reading about totalitarism when my thoughts wandered to an oldish game from SSI called Stronghold and I wondered why do RPGs always have to have you be the adventurer. What if you were the king and these random adventurers came to you, and you would task them with getting the job done, as people flocked to you and whined about missing socks in dryers and stuff. You could reward or penalize the adventuring groups and watch them hack away at gnolls and kobolds.
 

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circ said:
Speaking of ideas, I was reading about totalitarism when my thoughts wandered to an oldish game from SSI called Stronghold and I wondered why do RPGs always have to have you be the adventurer. What if you were the king and these random adventurers came to you, and you would task them with getting the job done, as people flocked to you and whined about missing socks in dryers and stuff. You could reward or penalize the adventuring groups and watch them hack away at gnolls and kobolds.

Majesty. A sequel is due out this year, I'm looking forward to it.
 

Darth Roxor

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circ said:
Slavic as in Dracula? No thanks.

Gigantic retard detected.


Anyways, there is one RTS/RPG game that takes place in medieval, pagan, slavic proto-Poland called Knightshift if you suckers are interested.
 

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Well if your looking for games that use non-christan mythology, Shin Megami Tensei (jrpgs though) as a whole pulls it of pretty intrestingly .
 

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