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Luzur

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Clockwork Knight said:
Xi said:
Would be interesting to get a law school student's take on this.


...I am a law school student

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but since I studied banana republic laws, you'll want to ask somebody else for a detailed explanation

hahah yeah i had a couple of those kinds of discussions in UO.
 

Malachi

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I actually am a lawyer, but in the US, not Brazil. Here the correct answer, when asked what a contract says, is to turn to the person paying you and ask, "Well, what do you *want* it to say?" An old joke from law school, actually, but not too far from the truth.

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TNO

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I'm pretty sure the English law take on this would be pretty much to ignore this clause without invalidating the whole contract. The idea would be that was a unilateral mistake from the party agreeing to the contract. Reasonable person standards would be used to see whether the person offering the contract could have sincerely meant the terms offered, and the person accepting it would have sincerely agreed to them. So obviously this fails on both counts. However, providing the EULA is reasonable, then that would still be enforceable. The same applies when selling a load of goods and the seller accidently adds a couple of zeros to the price of one of the goods which the buyer fails to realise.

Although my general impression is that the EULA is legal trash - any dispute over copyright or whatever, whatever terms the EULA has are ignored and the case is decided on the general legal position.
 

Volourn

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"GameStation claims that 88 percent of customers did not read the clause, which gives legal ownership of the customer's soul over to the UK-based games retailer. "

No. Contracts don't work like that legally. Sorry.
 
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OldSkoolKamikaze said:
Lavoisier said:
:highfive:

then again so are 50% of all university students in brazil..

A law degree must be one of those slacker degrees in Brazil. I mean if people like you can bribe your way to a driver's license, I'm sure there's not a whole lot to learn.

You just have to pay the guy that signs the papers saying that yes, you know how to drive. I'm not sure how these things are related. You use CHA to bribe people, not INT.

Btw, trivia: our current constitution is 100x bigger than yours due to recent dictatorship ending and everyone being butthurt / scared, so they bloated it with everything they could think about

The Constitution of Brazil was ratified on October 5, 1988, by the 1988 Constituent Assembly. It was ammended 64 times, and now has 250 articles.

The [american] Constitution consists of a preamble, seven original articles, twenty-seven amendments, and a paragraph certifying its enactment by the constitutional convention.

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Schattenjager said:
Marcelo, every law student in Brazil is a slacker.

Hmm, that smells of butthurt...

Me? I graduated in business back in Uruguay.

Ah, it was just these sour grapes we have laying around. We have to get rid of those.
 

Gay-Lussac

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The american constitution is very liberal (in the classic John Locke sense of the word), it mostly contains first generation rights because the main worry at the time was making sure the government didn't get in the way of free trade. Too bad in a world filled with monopolies, cartels and multinational companies such a thing doesn't exist anymore.
 

Schattenjäger

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Hey Macacos, what will you do if Dilma gets elected?

Word on the street is that she will strive to be like what the USSR was to the poles.

She will strive to continue Lula's class warfare straight on. Every non-government employed free man that works for a living, makes more than U$ 10.000,00 a year and is literate will be shot on sight.

And there will be public jobs for everyone.

And every young brazilian will dream of graduating in law in order to become a well paid government bureaucrat.

And taxes will keep on rising. And your liberties will keep being taken away.

Man, your country will surely become a superpower. I'm waiting on it.

The empire of brazil shall strike back.
 
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You'd have to be a real moran to think that Lula / Dilma class warfare is srs biz and not just cheapo demagogy

then again, Shitnigger...

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google it again, o self hating brownie
 

Schattenjäger

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You are just butthurt because the up and coming socialist regime will take away your freedom, your property and your money.

And all you will be left with is a worthless degree and the perspective of begging the government for a job.

Oh, and don't forget niggers and amerindians will take away much of your chance of getting that job.

Good luck with all that. Please let me know how everything turns out.

(Sound of my car speeding back to Uruguay)
 

Burning Bridges

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Anyway I think a clause that violates common practice can be ignored, and selling someones soul is such a clause.

For example when someone offers you a contract that you have to give them free blowjobs for 20 years, or that the virginity of your daughter belongs to him, etc, you can sign it, it's not worth the paper it's written on.

is always a good thing to know, when dealing with landlords etc.
 

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