Why people like Tekken?

[Overweight Manatee]

I think I saw my brother play a Tekkan once. Its that game where characters have combos that can do over 100% health damage that can't be broken out of, right?

 

[Melcar]

Tekken is pretty shit.

 

[Secretninja]

FOX FINAL DESTINATION NO ITEMZ!

 

[Clockwork Knight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTsCcYbwf_o

pro tier

 

[Zomg]

get beat by smelly kid with no cupid's bow and lazy eye in tekken

tekken's fault

 

[Pablosdog]

Tekken can be a button masher, but it takes a certain degree of skill to beat a pro Bryan Fury player. Street fighter 3>All other fighting games

 

[Destroid]

How about we mention some favourite characters?

I generally like slow characters, because I am good at defence and finding the timing to slip in a hit or two and I cbf memorising combo lists so slow big hitters suite me well.

For SC2 I really liked Astaroth. Unfortunately he kinda sucks now in SC4, so I switched out to Nightmare or Siegfried as my highest skill character, I forget which. I also like Cervantes.

For Mark of the Wolves Terry was always my go to guy.

For Last Blade 2 I liked average characters, Kaede was my favourite.

Although that said I'm not one to play the same character over and over, I get bored so I usually change character every round if I am playing a vs session with a friend. Garou was by far the game in which I attained the highest skill.

 

[Archibald]

For Mark of the Wolves Terry was always my go to guy.

Why not Grant? He imo fits your "slow but powerful" gimmick better.

 

[Destroid]

Playing boss characters is not allowed with the guys I play with. We even banned Necrid in Soul Caliber 2, for competitive play.

 

[BethesdaLove]

SF2 - Dhalsim
SFA3 - Guy
SF3 - Ken, Ibuki
SF4 - Ryu, (Viper)

MvsC - Venom, War machine
Garou - Tizok

Darkstalkers - Bishamon, Morrigan

 

[Archibald]

Playing boss characters is not allowed with the guys I play with. We even banned Necrid in Soul Caliber 2, for competitive play.

When selected Kain and Grant are a bit weaker than their arcade versions IIRC. Besides in japan they are used like normal characters and aren`t even top tier. But hey, whatever works for you.

I myself like characters without big combos because my execution blows.

Garou: Grant
SF4: Abel(yes, execution heavy but i like him), Gouken
Akatsuki Blitzkampfi: Adler(Nazi power)
Blazblue: Rachel
Tekken series: Brian probably.

Haven`t played other fighters in ages so can`t even remember

 

[Destroid]

Which characters ARE regarded as top tier in Garou? I was the best player out of the people I played with, and Freeman probably gave me the most trouble out of the characters my friends liked to use.

My most hated character to go against in SC2 and 4 is Taki.

EDIT: Nevermind, I looked them up.

 

[Archibald]

I`m not sure but IIRC that police dude who can fire kick you in the face and combo after that, yes i forgot his name.

 

[dextermorgan]

Virtua fighter>All other fighting games

Fixed that for ya.

 

[KalosKagathos]

I myself like characters without big combos because my execution blows.

...

Blazblue: Rachel

What. Why not Hakumen? You know, the guy who can cancel everything into anything, as long as you have meter to burn.

 

[Archibald]

Rachel is vampire, i`m gay for vampires, even forced myself to watch twilight ;_;.

But Hakumen is cool too. And Blazblue would be fucking A+ but i hate like 90% of their caracter designs so it`s a B+ only =/

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

SF2: Ryu, Dee Jay
SF3: Ryu, Urien, Q
SF4: Abel, Hakan, Ryu
KoF series: K', Shen, Oswald, Leona, Terry, Maxima, Kula
Tekken series: Lee, JACK, Bryan, Dragunov, Heihachi Lars
Mortal Kombat: Sub-Zero

 

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Felix




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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 06:00:25 Post subject: Why people like Tekken?

Seriously, the combo system where you push button to combo even before they complete the moves and pseudo 3d movements are lame as fuck.
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 06:03:41 Post subject:

All the combo shit gives nerds an advantage because they'll practice, which produces fans when they shitstomp casuals online (or previously in arcades). Beyond that people play the games that are popular enough to create a scene, which ATM is either Street Fighter or Tekken and if you like Virtua Fighter or something you are shit out of luck.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 06:26:06 Post subject:

I've always thought Tekken was shit.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 06:58:03 Post subject:

Soul Caliber is superior in every way.
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 07:05:40 Post subject:

We're talking about fighting game with no weapons bro, for weapons I prefer Bushido Blade.
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 07:17:34 Post subject:

The weapons in Soul Caliber don't exactly make it much different from a regular fighting game though.

Bushido Blade is a drastic departure from genre typical.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 07:39:55 Post subject:

I think it's kinda ridiculous to treat Bushido Blade as anything but a curio honestly

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 07:54:56 Post subject:

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:
Soul Caliber is superior in every way.


Soul Calibur isn't even mediocre. Being better than Tekken is not a merit. Tekken was major for fighting games and still is the fighting game popamole (along with SC).

I'd say the combo shit produces fans because it's banal and simplistic enough, and all that matters in it is knowing the two or three best combos a character has. It doesn't take real practice to become good in it like with Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat or King of Fighters. And the gameplay is dumbed down, since it doesn't include pretty much any mobility/mindgame special moves at all.
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 08:06:38 Post subject:

Complete bullshit, the level of mastery at the upper levels is just as incomprehensible as every other fighting game you'd name. Just criticize them on the level of dumbass party games and laggy online match fuck-arounds because that's the most anyone here has done.

Incidentally Soul Calibur is the king shit of party fighting games. Essentially no juggles, the air control thing, the 8-way run and comedy ring outs make it fun and jokey for decent players that never, ever do practice mode to pass around the controller on

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 09:05:08 Post subject:

Eh, I thought KOF used a combo system quite similar to Tekken?

My fav fighting games are Last Blade 2 and Garou: Mark of the Wolves, although I am very fond of the Soul Caliber series too. I like that the combos are relatively short and simple to learn and use in the two former, the latter has got so many combos to learn per character I never scratched the surface but I'm not much of a combo player anyway.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 15:20:48 Post subject:

Destroid wrote:
Eh, I thought KOF used a combo system quite similar to Tekken?


I think you're thinking about the spin-off series, Maximum Impact.
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 15:34:43 Post subject:

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I'd say the combo shit produces fans because it's banal and simplistic enough, and all that matters in it is knowing the two or three best combos a character has. It doesn't take real practice to become good in it like with Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat or King of Fighters.



Mortal Kombat...?

As for Teken, cool shit happens when you just mash buttons. Thats why everyone is playing it. Of course top level play is just as good as in any other decent fighting game.
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 21:28:20 Post subject:

Archibald wrote:

As for Teken, cool shit happens when you just mash buttons. Thats why everyone is playing it. Of course top level play is just as good as in any other decent fighting game.



Yup, it's more fun for beginners. And you can actually learn a lot just by mashing those buttons without boring studying of move lists. I'd call this system intuitive, not popamole. It's not like you can beat someone experienced at the game just by mashing buttons anyway. I have a friend who was Lithuanian champion of Tekken 3 ( ) when he was 13, and you won't do shit to his health bar without being very careful about buttons you press.
Tekken 3 still provides me with more fun than any Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter game ever did.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 21:32:51 Post subject:

Last Blade, KOF, Samurai Showdown, Guilty Gear, and Street Fighter 2 are the only fighting games I really play. I had Tekken 2 and , but they weren't that memorable to me.
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 21:38:56 Post subject:

phelot wrote:
I had Tekken 2 and , but they weren't that memorable to me.



Well it's shit compared to Tekken 3.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 21:45:30 Post subject:

The amount you get out of a particular fighting game is so proportional to who you are playing against that it seems dumb to throw out many personal opinions if you haven't been a really elite player in multiple games. If you and your five buddies all really concentrated on a "mediocre" game like MK1 or something against one another you would be playing on a much richer level than if you'd been retard fitan' against your little brother or the CPU in a theoretically deep game like Virtua Fighter 5.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 21:48:44 Post subject:

Tekken is a great game. "easy to learn, very hard to master". Anyone can come in, mash buttons randomly and beat a lot of people but if you face an opponent that knows what he's doing, knows not only combos, counters, dodges and blocks but also knows your character and what he's capable of then you won't even get to hit him. Its a great game for both pros and total noobs.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 22:50:01 Post subject:

MapMan wrote:
Anyone can come in, mash buttons randomly and beat a lot of people but if you face an opponent that knows what he's doing, knows not only combos, counters, dodges and blocks but also knows your character and what he's capable of then you won't even get to hit him.


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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 23:49:46 Post subject:

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Fail.
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The amount you get out of a particular fighting game is so proportional to who you are playing against that it seems dumb to throw out many personal opinions if you haven't been a really elite player in multiple games.



So popamole is good in multiplayer?
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 23:57:04 Post subject:

Combos are kinda superfluous unless there is some way to interrupt them and/or capitalize on the comboer's mistakes. GG series has a good amount of game mechanics that support high level play without everything coming down to reflexes (as in most fighting games).
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 23:57:39 Post subject:

Probably, but FPS/TPS multiplayer is a completely different thing from fighting games that I don't know very well so I'm not sure. But I guess a dude that has played like Halo capture the flag with a set team really working at playing other set teams has had a much better experience than some guy that hops into TF2 and plays lone gun retard in PUGs, even if everyone agrees TF2 is better.

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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 23:58:45 Post subject:

Dunno, probably biggest part of street fighter is "positioning".
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 00:30:24 Post subject:

To quote a young cousin of a friend of mine: "Press B, its flashier!". Thats why Tekken is so popular.

As far as I can tell, Tekken is all about combos. Look at pro videos. Fucking adhd spastic zoning, in hopes of a juggle starter and than a half a lifebar killer combo.

SF3 is a pretty balanced game.

SF4 too. A little less combo heavy than SF3.

SF2 is about mindgames.
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Combos are kinda superfluous unless there is some way to interrupt them and/or capitalize on the comboer's mistakes. GG series has a good amount of game mechanics that support high level play without everything coming down to reflexes (as in most fighting games).


You are a fucking idiot. Honestly.
Superfluous?! COMBOS ARE TEH WHOLE FUCKING POINT! More skillz -> longer combos -> more damage -> more wins.
WITHOUT COMING DOWN TO REFLEXES?! ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?! THATS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN COMBOS!!!!! JESUS; THATS THE WHOLE CORE GAMEPLAY OF FIGHTING GAMES YOU DUMBFUCK!
High level play? Take at least a fucking look at high level play online!
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Wtf is that supposed to mean?!
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