Let's don our monocles in Victoria II (Finished)

Merkwürdigliebe · Oct 30, 2011

Once again the British demand the region of Xinjiang, though hopefully they will be no more successful in this war than the last.

Sadly the construction of the border forts has not been able to proceed due to a great shortage of lumber.

Additional regiments are recruited, we may be lacking some what in quality but quantity has a quantity all its own.

The first enemy force is sighted, predictably coming to Kashgar through Panjab.

The harsh desert climate once again takes many lives, it would seem they are no more prepared for the desert this time.

Taiwan is also under siege, but there is nothing that can be done about that at the moment. We will simply have to accept them occupying it for the moment.

A small British force attempts to drive out the Chinese army in Aksu. They might have succeeded if it was not for the fact that their commander was a incompetent idiot.

It results in a clear Chinese victory.

They make a second attempt at taking Aksu, this time their commander is some what less incompetent.

It's still an easy victory however.

With this discovery we now have everything we need in order to modernize the country, however doing so during a war would not be possible so it is put off until the war ends.

The next step will be to improve leadership with in the army, something which is severely lacking at the moment.

The British seem to have given up on taking Aksu and instead follow the path of least resistance, straight into the desert.

Though that is only momentary for shortly afterwards they attack Aksu again.

The various conditions of the battle field are heavily in favor of China and this battle should be possible to win.

The British having occupied Khotan continue into the desert of Lop Nur.

With the additional reinforcements the battle of Aksu is won, the few British survivors fleeing to Lop Nur.

Now that the British army having been severely weakened through the harsh conditions of the desert it's time for a counter attack.

The remnants of the army is quickly overwhelmed by Chinese numerical superiority and crushed.

But the war is not won yet, for they still have additional soldiers they are willing to sacrifice in the name of conquest and imperialism.

The Russians exploiting our temporary weakness demands a large chunk of Chinese territory. It's decided to deny them their demands, if they want the land let them show that they are willing to back those threats with force of arms. If they do a peace settlement should be possible, but if they do not nothing will be lost.

Mean while in the west the battle for Aksu continues and the British bering in yet more reinforcements.

The battle is decisive victory, but that good is far outweighed by the news that we are not at war with two great western powers at once.

anus_pounder · Oct 30, 2011

It was fun while it lasted. :salute:

GG TY

Vaarna_Aarne · Oct 30, 2011

Russia is most likely demanding your slice of Sofianova. If that's the case, IMMEDIATELY concede the territory to them, it's worthless so there's no reason to fight over it. Later on you can use the Acquire Core casus belli to take all of Sofianova.

The Brazilian Slaughter · Oct 30, 2011

Time for the real fun.
This is gonna either be your end, or its gonna be a rockin' blast of awesomeness.

The Brazilian Slaughter · Oct 30, 2011

Time for the real fun.
This is gonna either be your end, or its gonna be a rockin' blast of awesomeness.

NOW BEAR WILL DEVOUR, LIKE SUCULLENT BERRY!

Norfleet · Oct 30, 2011

Meh. The Russian army is terrible, though, and the terrain in that region is horrendous and very close to your own mobilization centers. Every time I've fought the Russians there, it just turns into this enormous bloodbath for both sides. But you're China, so...

JagreenLern · Oct 30, 2011

China against Russia? This is going to be a fucking bloodbath. I'm certainly looking forward to the next update.

Also, I noticed in the previous update that you have some Gelugpa pops. It would be pretty awesome if Vicky 2 had Dugpas.

Norfleet · Oct 30, 2011

JagreenLern said:
China against Russia? This is going to be a fucking bloodbath. I'm certainly looking forward to the next update.

It is. When I played that scenario, 10 million guys died in combat casualties alone, and that doesn't even begin to account for the horrible casualties the Russians probably sustained in attrition frogmarching million-man doomstacks through the wastelands.

Merkwürdigliebe · Oct 31, 2011

Once again our worthless "allies" show their true colors, they will be suitably punished after this war is over.

A pace offer is sent to Russia it being quickly realized that a two front war against two great powers simultaneously is impossible to win a, especially considering the Russian border being compromised mostly of plains making it poor terrain to fight defensively in.

The offer is quickly accepted and the eastern most Halshenwai region changes hands. For now this loss and humiliation will have to be accepted, but this will not be forgotten. Some time in the future the territory will be retaken and this will be repaid tenfold.

The British on the other hand continue their offensive and size the island of Cheju while the Royal Navy blockades Chinese ports.

Just like the last war a counter offensive is launched when the British reach Lop Nur.

And a force is sent to Khotan to retake it, but also to cut of the enemies escape route.

Once again Aksu is attacked by the British

And once again the defenders throw the attackers back

Though even with those forces thrown back a large British force is reported approaching Khotan. The Chinese army will not be able to pull out before the enemy arrives.

Chinese resistance must have been much heavier than what the British expected for they offer a peace treaty. With it being a white peace and an offensive being unlikely at best it is accepted directly.

Now that the nation is at peace again the next step is to complete the previously started process of modernization since it is clear that if we don't the gap between us and the west will only increase until we can offer no meaningful resistance to their aggression.

During the war the Chinese education efforts have continued and have had some success for today over 10% of the population is literate.

Naturally these policies are implemented, the faster these troublesome minorities are made useful productive citizens the better.

The industrial revolution has come to China! The first factories are built by the government in an attempt to increase Chinese productivity, though there is still a long way to go before we can reach western levels of production.

Advances are made in military doctrine, though it comes to late to be useful in the war, it will however be useful when we retake our rightful territory from the Russians.

The next step is concept of idealism in order to further research further in China.

The opportunity to establish a military industrial complex becomes available. It would improve industrial and military research, but it would hamper naval technology and social change some what. This will possibly be enacted in the future, but right large amounts of social development are needed.

With the country being opened to the world and personal freedom having increased especially for the lower classes some take the Chance to migrate to the Americas. It is a problem, but considering the huge Chinese population this is only minor emigration and not a major issue.

Our now growing industry require these raw materials, any loss of life resulting from it is regretful but necessary.

After a couple of years of industrial and technological progress China is already considered a great power! Though its power comes primarily from quantity rather than quality.

As society continues to develop technological progress comes faster.

The next step is to implement the concept of railroad, this improved infrastructure could prove most beneficial.

After railroad improving the educational system is the next area to see improvements for an educated workforce is necessary for a nation to succeed.

Industrialization continues at a rapid pace, though some new group of people so called "capitalists" seem quite content to invest large sums of money in businesses like canned food factory that will likely not turn a profit.

In order to be able to fully utilize Chinas numerical superiority steps must be taken to improve medicine and supplies or losses to attrition will be more dangerous than the enemy.

Well....

Sorry for pussying out on the war with Russia, but they will be fought once preparations are made I assure you.

Norfleet · Oct 31, 2011

As far as I know, railroad shouldn't be considered a really high priority, since all it does is improve production...production you don't presently have! A percentage boost to nothing remains nothing. Anything which improves education and research should be more useful.

Kashmir Slippers · Oct 31, 2011

A winrar is you.

Now that you are a GP, what what are your plans? I don't think that the other powers will keep attacking you (sans Russia for cores) now that you are on their level.

Norfleet · Oct 31, 2011

Nah, they'll keep doing it until he becomes the top dog. The AI is very, very, angry. Although now that you are "civilized", it is going to be a more expensive effort for them to demand territory off you, and you, yourself, can begin initiating Operation Curbstomp The World. In the grim future of Hello Kitty, there is only war.

Vaarna_Aarne · Oct 31, 2011

I would argue that maximum research point tech and plurality inventions should be the first order of business. After that you can focus on industry and military. Navy is not important, since anyone who will attack you will do so by land.

anus_pounder · Oct 31, 2011

How much land did you lose to the russians ?

Vaarna_Aarne · Oct 31, 2011

Haishenwai AKA Primorye. It's prime colonial real estate, due to having relatively low population but massive RGO caps, allowing for massive colonial immigration. Also, most of the RGOs are Coal RGOs, meaning it's pretty much one of the most valuable colonial areas.

Kane · Oct 31, 2011

out of curiosity what patch are you playing? 1.3 or 1.4 beta?

Merkwürdigliebe · Oct 31, 2011

PLaying 1.3

Kashmir Slippers said:
A winrar is you.

Now that you are a GP, what what are your plans? I don't think that the other powers will keep attacking you (sans Russia for cores) now that you are on their level.

Well once I do a couple of more updates and get as far on the LP as I've played I'm not really sure on how to proceed. Could use some advice then, perhaps it will be time for a different nation.

Oh and I broke my game or something. Messed around with the techs a little and got some strange results, reverting to my backup file wouldn't fix it, and neither did a complete reinstall. This is quite odd, now my tech interface looks like this.

Vaarna_Aarne · Oct 31, 2011

Oh, do you have a backup txt of the tech files modified in the tech folder? You must always make a separate backup folder if you don't want the game to explode from double files to read (it reads ALL the files, names don't matter in 99% cases)

Merkwürdigliebe · Oct 31, 2011

Yes looks like that fixed the issue, thanks Vaarna your a bro. :bro:

Any way what I was working on was trying to fix pop growth for a few European Nations considering that France has a much starting pop in 1836 as my German Empire with pretty much historical borders had in 1876 (about 40 million total pop IIRC). Considering that historically the German population greatly increased during this time period while the French did not it results in France being ridiculously dominant in Europe compared to how it actually was.

Checking the official forums some one came with the idea to use a special invention that would only affect France like the following. If I understand it correctly all i have to do is post said code in one of the tech files. So just paste it into the end of the file essentially?

Code:

small_families = {
	limit = { classicism_n_early_romanticism = 1 
			tag = FRA
			}
	chance = {
		base = 100
	}
	effect = {
		pop_growth = -0.0003
		}	
}

Vaarna_Aarne · Nov 1, 2011

Personally, I would recommend making it an event-fired modifier.

Though this gives me an idea for fixing Russia...

GarfunkeL · Nov 1, 2011

Good going. Your factories are really profitable!

Vaarna_Aarne · Nov 1, 2011

Also, with industrial techs, there's one above all others you'll want... Clean Coal. It'll skyrocket your income.

Hellraiser · Nov 1, 2011

Damn now that's an industrial revolution if I ever saw one.

You can always go annex France or the USA if you need a tedious challenge. Rebels spawning everywhere, everybody declaring war on you due to high infamy and all that.

This is also why I suggested Vietnam, you would have a lot less to manage but with room for expansion and a decent population (unlike say afghanistan) but the Europeans would still be a major threat even if you would want to just grab some colonies from the dutch sodomites or spanish lazyfucks.

curry · Nov 1, 2011

Merkwürdigliebe said:
PLaying 1.3

For a moment I thought you were joking, then realized you're serious :decline:

Norfleet · Nov 1, 2011

Hellraiser said:
Damn now that's an industrial revolution if I ever saw one.

Where's this industrial revolution you speak of? I don't see any industrial revolution. Do you mean the screenshot where he was debugging the game as France? Because switching to France isn't really an industrial revolution...

Hellraiser said:
Annex France or the USA if you need a tedious challenge. Rebels spawning everywhere, everybody declaring war on you due to high infamy and all that.

France and the US are among the countries that Never Give Up, because the number of states they have is so enormous that you get far less score from taking it than is needed for them to concede it. Since they'll refuse to stop the war as a result, you'll be forced to kill them all, and by that point the amount of gain you've achieved will exceed even 100% warscore by several orders of magnitude, etc., etc. War never ends, you're just stuck occupying it forever, unless you fix this somehow or use yesmen. It's not quite as elegant as HOI, even after you've taken everything, destroyed every last soldier, and sunk every last ship, THEY DO NOT GIVE UP, not even after their country is reduced to a barren wasteland of bankrupted factories and angry peasants lashing out against any and everything in sight.

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