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Which RPGs are gonna get canceled over the devs getting "vaccinated" and dying?

Reinhardt

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which country got large share of rpgs made, terrible access to health care, very low number of tests performed and got more deaths than recoveries(this point is tied to previous one though)?
The Great Sat-... 'Murrica, naturally.
Except kwans don't make rpgs.
 
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Reinhardt

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which country got large share of rpgs made, terrible access to health care, very low number of tests performed and got more deaths than recoveries(this point is tied to previous one though)?
The Great Sat-... 'Murrica, naturally.
Except kwans don't make rpgs.
True, they make rpg games for dem casuals. :smug:
They don't make even them anymore.


Btw my bet is on Darkest Dungeon 2.
 

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I even jokingly suggested to my ex-girlfriend that we should have sex again if we both survive coronavirus, which she enthusiastically agreed to.
you should've asked her to do it now, not after

And catch corona? No. Everyone could have it right now. She lives in a big city and uses public transport to get to work. She could already have it. I can't risk it.
 

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So what are the risk factors here?

  • Quality of health system
  • Quality of political decision making (because even a good health system can be swamped with too many patients)
  • Lack of flexibility with respect to working from home (indie's might do better than average here)
  • Financial stability to endure any slow down / gaps in development (indie's might do significantly worse)
  • The fans' willingness to "buy" a dumbed-down / non-existing product (star citizen is save)
I probably missed some.

But let's be honest: The game industry is among those who are the least affected, for now. Home office is comparatively simple to establish. Demand will probably remain up, at least for a while (until consumers are actually hit by the crisis' economic impact), since many people have more time for gaming at home.

Conversely, I expect many local bars and restaurants to fold in because of this situation. It's a difficult business situation at the best of times (at least around here). Take away income, and I'm pretty sure they'll start dropping like flies after a month or two. Not a happy thing, since there's not too many of those in my rather rural environment.
 

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I think i already caught it as i don't usually get the seasonal flu, either it was it or a benign version but i was sick last week-end and i'm feeling better now.
Still, as soon as it's over, i'm going to stop my wintery rest and get back to regular training.
 

Cleveland Mark Blakemore

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I don't know, Queensland is doing pretty badly in comparison to most of the rest of Australia atm - they are ahead of Victoria which has a greater population
Are you doubting in Cleveland Mark Blakemore survival skills?

My mantrap just caught another midget breaking quarantine outside the special needs facility!

Dinner is served.
LoL you are still alive. I thought that the air vent fucked up by now and you got suffocated by the carbon dioxite in the air.
 

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I don't know, Queensland is doing pretty badly in comparison to most of the rest of Australia atm - they are ahead of Victoria which has a greater population
Are you doubting in Cleveland Mark Blakemore survival skills?

My mantrap just caught another midget breaking quarantine outside the special needs facility!

Dinner is served.
LoL you are still alive. I thought that the air vent fucked up by now and you got suffocated by the carbon dioxite in the air.
Lol, you are still alive. I thought Cleve's mantrap caught you.
 

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Thinking about it, Pierre Begue is a survivor, he probably hid in the woods at the first signs of an outbreak and he's now living in a bunker cabin tent somewhere in the countryside out of dandelion, nettle and moss.

He'll be just fine, the worst thing that could happen is for him to realize he has to build a bunker in the Alps for the next outbreak and he should start earning millions, then, plan to make KotC 3 a VR MMO "RPG" game game.
 

fantadomat

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I don't know, Queensland is doing pretty badly in comparison to most of the rest of Australia atm - they are ahead of Victoria which has a greater population
Are you doubting in Cleveland Mark Blakemore survival skills?

My mantrap just caught another midget breaking quarantine outside the special needs facility!

Dinner is served.
LoL you are still alive. I thought that the air vent fucked up by now and you got suffocated by the carbon dioxite in the air.
Lol, you are still alive. I thought Cleve's mantrap caught you.
Nah,it was your sister that ended up a trap for me. Also not a dwarf mate,at least learn which codexer is a midget and which is not.
 

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Don't be such a morbid prick, Jarl, you're better than that.
I even jokingly suggested to my ex-girlfriend that we should have sex again if we both survive coronavirus, which she enthusiastically agreed to. But I'm really not sure that she will - she keeps going out because she doesn't take the virus seriously enough.

And that is how the next generation, the coronials, is born. :D

Edit: Also, panic a little less. We have 6000 casualties over the course of 4 months. Last viral pandemics occurred in 1957 and 1968, each claiming over a million lives, yet the accompanying panic was like 20% of the current one.
 
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And that is how the next generation, the coronials, is born. :D

Edit: Also, panic a little less. We have 6000 casualties over the course of 4 months. Last viral pandemics occurred in 1957 and 1968, each claiming over a million lives, yet the accompanying panic was like 20% of the current one.

Ah, the coronials. Will they grow up into a hunter-gatherer society? Walking among the ruins of our metropolises? Flipping old smartphones over the surface of a lake? Playing catch and hide, rather than hack and slash? Bemoaning our hybris? Or will they forget too much and repeat our mistakes?
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Ah, the coronials. Will they grow up into a hunter-gatherer society? Walking among the ruins of our metropolises? Flipping old smartphones over the surface of a lake? Playing catch and hide, rather than hack and slash? Bemoaning our hybris? Or will they forget too much and repeat our mistakes?
Will they stockpile toilet paper?
Btw there is an insignificant risk of dying for people the age of list developers yet.
The main risk would be studio closing down because the developers "work from home" watching Netflix or pornhub instead of crunching.
 

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Here's what developer of Dead Monarchy says:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1037940/announcements/detail/1814327983112741457
March 2020: Complete Rebuild
Development Will Continue!

Hey guys,

So the operation went smoothly and now I'm just taking things easy as I recover. While I spend the majority of my time just laying down resting, I've had a lot of time to think and plan. A lot of time to think about the future of Dead Monarchy and also the current situation we are all facing.

So I guess it is time for me to address the elephant in the room, otherwise known as the Coronavirus or Covid-19. As the situation continues to intensify it will no doubt impact upon development. I'm a solo indie developer working on a project that has been entirely self-funded yet I cannot work on this project full-time as it is not generating enough revenue for me to leave the multiple day jobs that I'm juggling. At the end of the day, I need enough money to support my family, our day to day needs and whatever freelancers that I'm working with.

It's only a matter of time before the restaurants and cafes shut down and so when that happens a significant portion of my income will be affected. It's not all doom and gloom though, this isn't when I say that I'm stopping development but it has been a very rude awakening for me.

If there is a total lockdown in Australia, who knows how long that will last and the revenue alone that I make from Dead Monarchy won't cover the daily expenses. To put things into context, I've spent over 8000 hours now on development and I have netted under 10K. The game has sold 1336 copies and has 30 reviews of which 27 are publicly displayed. I'm sure a few indie developers might be interested to see the actual figures too, so I've posted them up.

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The figures are pretty brutal but at the same time, these were the figures I was more or less expecting. This is the first game from an unknown developer and it is also an early access title. I've noticed quite a lot of my posts recently have been quite "negative" I suppose and I'm not inherently searching for sympathy but I'm just talking about my development journey and it just so happens that the end of 2019/2020 has more or less been the hardest year in my entire 27 years of existence.

At the same time, I also want to say that I am extremely grateful for everyone that has bought, tried, reviewed and wishlisted the game, the support without a doubt is very encouraging. I knew Dead Monarchy wouldn't be a hit right out the gate, it's a niche game and a passion project of mine that will go through countless iterations. I was more or less plodding along but sometimes passion doesn't put food on the table, especially when your primary source of income is suddenly under threat by a global pandemic of all things. I knew my development journey would be hard, but I didn't see this coming haha.

Now that I got all of that out of the way, I want to stress that development of Dead Monarchy will continue, as a solo developer I don't inherently rely on anyone or have to pay anyone to perform crucial tasks, that is the one good thing about working on this project alone. So long as I'm alive, Dead Monarchy will continue to move forward.

That said, I need to start thinking about the future and think about generating multiple sources of income so I can support myself. As such, I've decided to do a complete rebuild of Dead Monarchy from the ground up. At first glance that doesn't really make sense, it might make more sense to rush the game out but I have my reasons.

The rebuild is really a COMPLETE rebuild, I will be looking into every single aspect of DM from models to formulas, UI and gameplay etc etc. After the rebuild is completed, that will most likely be the point in time where I will increase the price, I feel that is fair enough.

As this is my first game, there has been a lot of iteration but also a lot of redundant things in the editor that clogs things up. Now that I know the limitations and have a framework to reference, it will be a lot easier to implement larger changes. Also going in the second time, I now have a great community behind me with a lot of good feedback. Rebuilding from the ground up is really the only way to implement more dramatic changes, now that I have a better idea of what works and what doesn't. It really is just like creating a sequel.

Lastly, as I rebuild Dead Monarchy, I will be using this new framework to look into the possibility of creating new games or spin-off titles. Those new games are still years away but the reality is I need to start looking into trying to create more sources of income, it's just the reality that I now face. There needs to be some change in the game plan now that my primary source of income is under threat, I cannot just maintain the status quo and sit by idly.

This means that my main focus will now shift to rebuilding Dead Monarchy, but the existing DM builds will still get periodic updates, the next update will be coming out soon in fact. While I am rebuilding, I will of course be posting updates and gathering feedback on proposed changes. The rebuilding effort is basically a very large update, a total overhaul of the entire game, the catch is it will just take a while. I've also decided that as I reach milestones I will be uploading the rebuilt version to the beta branch so that you guys can see the progress for yourself.

I feel that Dead Monarchy is a true to roots early access title, not just a late beta build masquerading as an EA title being released into EA because it's a safer and more profitable way to gauge public opinion. A lot can change, a lot has already changed and the feedback from players no doubt prompts change, the culmination of all this feedback is partly why I have decided to do a complete rebuild.

I'm hoping I can get everyone's support and understanding on this. It is a pretty big move but we now live in strange and unpredictable times so at the very least I need to start thinking about trying to secure the future and this is the only way forward that I can see without having to sell my soul or secretly deciding to stop development but still announce that I'm opening up a Patreon account to help "fund" development.

Cheers,
Kevin.
 

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All the Russian ones, given the quality of healthcare in the country. So I hope there's still time for you to withdraw your kickstarter pledges for PF.
Atomboy
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i hope ya'll are alright dudes.

do we have owlcat rep here?
LOL. This concern was spot on, because I think I actually had it. Got the symptoms after visiting the airport five days before you posted. Locked myself in with supplies for all this time, didn't test though so it might have been something else. Testing in Riga in the first half of March meant walking to a tent surrounded with other potential corona people. Fever ran up to 38 C, and it still is a huge pain to breathe. Didn't read this whole thread yet, but I sure hope Styg never shares my woefull fate. Expedition was the only thing I played when I didn't have the strength to work. It kept me sane. God bless!
 

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