Thank you bioware for being so progressive

[Mastermind]

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic ... ex/6554957

I'm glad to see Bioware paying attention to what's really important in an RPG: Social commentary and engineering. It's what makes role-playing classics like Mass Effect the flawless gems that they are.

 

[circ]

I also like how right off the bat they equate bi relationships with gay relationships. Go go BioWare.

 

[Oesophagus]

Just out of curiosity: can you tell a gay person in DA:O/DA2 that you resent every bit of their existence, and that you consider them the lowest form of life whose only hope is to be purified in a baptism of fire? Not that that's what I think about gay people, but if Bioware's so hot on social engineering this should be an option, with all its consequences.
BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

 

[Nael]

BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

Not to defend Bioware (niggah plz) but I think "medieval" is a period of history that occurred on the Planet Earth. Not the Planet Dragontits (or whatever the fuck planet it is). It's entirely possible that some religious figure in their past got it on with other dudes and therefore homosexuality is more accepted on their planet. That doesn't mean that the Lord Your God will not smite the Planet Dragontits some sweet day however.

 

[Serious_Business]

BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

Not to defend Bioware (niggah plz) but I think "medieval" is a period of history that occurred on the Planet Earth. Not the Planet Dragontits (or whatever the fuck planet it is). It's entirely possible that some religious figure in their past got it on with other dudes and therefore homosexuality is more accepted on their planet. That doesn't mean that the Lord Your God will not smite the Planet Dragontits some sweet day however.

why did you write this

 

[Mastermind]

Just out of curiosity: can you tell a gay person in DA:O/DA2 that you resent every bit of their existence, and that you consider them the lowest form of life whose only hope is to be purified in a baptism of fire? Not that that's what I think about gay people, but if Bioware's so hot on social engineering this should be an option, with all its consequences.

When you are trying to normalize behavior making it look like a common, accepted type of behavior by good or cool characters is the best way to go about it. If they threw that shit in it would look ridiculous enough that nobody would take it seriously.

 

[Phelot]

Arcanum was paving the way for bestiality long before Bioware caught up.

But really, this is all just so stupid how romance is handled. There's got to be one (1) homosexual man, and one (1) bisexual woman. Never any lesbians since they're intimidating and have deep voices. It's like a standards test you have to pass in order to sell your game since everyone knows having one example of each sexual orientation is enough of a reputation of them and besides gays aren't picky they'll take any gay man so it'd be redundant having two.

I didn't play this game, it probably shows.

 

[Reptilian Shapeshifter]

sgriffin0810

This is one of the few good things about DA2, I will agree.

Yup, it's always at the top of the list of qualities I'm looking for in a game.

 

[circ]

Also, on the note of gays. When I was in 6th or 7th grade, some gayboy came to our class to talk about gayboys. He said how 1 out 10 people is a gayboy and that our classmate could be a gayboy. He was right, as I one day found out as a classmate from german class asked me if I was gay, in a peculiar manor. I refused his invitation, as he was ginger and not particularly attractive.

Anyway. In a BioWare game, you will usually have the same archetypal 8 groupmates, and half will turn out to swing in different ways. This is statistically impossible. But why am I arguing, it's BioWare.

 

[J1M]

Sadly, if they added a tranny named Codex it would be the most original companion in a bioware game since Baldur's Gate.

 

[New Fog]

BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

According to John Boswell, author of Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality,[22] there were same-sex Christian monastic communities and other religious orders in which homosexuality thrived. (...) While same-sex relationships among men were highly documented and condemned, "Moral theologians did not pay much attention to the question of what we would today call lesbian sex, perhaps because anything that did not involve a phallus did not fall within the bounds of their understanding of the sexual. Some legislation against lesbian relations can be adduced for the period, mainly involving the use of "instruments," in other words, dildoes."

 

[Nael]

BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

Not to defend Bioware (niggah plz) but I think "medieval" is a period of history that occurred on the Planet Earth. Not the Planet Dragontits (or whatever the fuck planet it is). It's entirely possible that some religious figure in their past got it on with other dudes and therefore homosexuality is more accepted on their planet. That doesn't mean that the Lord Your God will not smite the Planet Dragontits some sweet day however.

why did you write this

Why do I fucking write anything? Why do you? Why does anyone? Does anything even matter anymore?

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

 

[circ]

What a horrible sunset. But then again it was in the context of suicide, so ok, I can live with that.

 

[Deleted Member 10432]

BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

While that's true, by the same token, how many priestesses and female knights do you think there were in mediaeval Europe? Hell, how many publically practising wizards? And how much polytheism?

 

[Haba]

BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

While that's true, by the same token, how many priestesses and female knights do you think there were in mediaeval Europe? Hell, how many publically practising wizards? And how much polytheism?

Now ask yourself why. Then ask why it'd make sense for the exact opposite to occur in a fantasy society.

Despite what your teachers told you at school, being gay is not natural. Gay people don't get artificial insemination in fantasy worlds. So blind tolerance on something that'd be harmful for the family unit/village etc. is equally silly as straightforwardly copying medieval setting.

 

[Nael]

What a horrible sunset. But then again it was in the context of suicide, so ok, I can live with that.

It was actually a SUNRISE you mouth-breathing, donkey-fucking, dick-licking, rug-staining, waste-of-time.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Just out of curiosity: can you tell a gay person in DA:O/DA2 that you resent every bit of their existence, and that you consider them the lowest form of life whose only hope is to be purified in a baptism of fire? Not that that's what I think about gay people, but if Bioware's so hot on social engineering this should be an option, with all its consequences.
BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

Well, you can turn friendly fire on and blast them with a gigantic fireball. They even raise after every fight, just so you can do it again.

DA makes both faggots and homophobes happy. Bioware did it again!

Now ask yourself why. Then ask why it'd make sense for the exact opposite to occur in a fantasy society.

sense

fantasy

Don't go there!

 

[circ]

What a horrible sunset. But then again it was in the context of suicide, so ok, I can live with that.

It was actually a SUNRISE you mouth-breathing, donkey-fucking, dick-licking, rug-staining, waste-of-time.

I was actually going to say sunrise, but lack of surfers made me think otherwise. I didn't think normal people bothered jumping into ice cold water at 5 am.

Still horribad.

 

[mondblut]

When a Bioware game allows me to kill a 3 years old THEN buttrape its corpse in full cutscene glory, *that* would be a progressive social engineering.

Being a fag is so last decade. :yawn:

 

[Jaesun]

When a Bioware game allows me to kill a 3 years old THEN buttrape its corpse in full cutscene glory, *that* would be a progressive social engineering.

Being a fag is so last decade. :yawn:

Did you forget you are on your mondblut account, Major_Blackhart?

 

[Deleted Member 10432]

BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

While that's true, by the same token, how many priestesses and female knights do you think there were in mediaeval Europe? Hell, how many publically practising wizards? And how much polytheism?

Now ask yourself why. Then ask why it'd make sense for the exact opposite to occur in a fantasy society.

Despite what your teachers told you at school, being gay is not natural. Gay people don't get artificial insemination in fantasy worlds. So blind tolerance on something that'd be harmful for the family unit/village etc. is equally silly as straightforwardly copying medieval setting.

... And you don't think woman knights, priests etc. is harmful for the family unit/village in an agrarian, pre-Industrial society? I suggest you try to use the sad, forgotten lump of grey matter lodged somewhere between the colossal ego and the inferiority complex, deep in the hidden recesses of your skull before you try and answer that question.

 

[deuxhero]

BTW, isn't the whole DA setting supposed to be "grimdark" and medieval? Because I'm pretty sure people weren't all that OK with homosexuality back then...

According to John Boswell, author of Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality,[22] there were same-sex Christian monastic communities and other religious orders in which homosexuality thrived. (...) While same-sex relationships among men were highly documented and condemned, "Moral theologians did not pay much attention to the question of what we would today call lesbian sex, perhaps because anything that did not involve a phallus did not fall within the bounds of their understanding of the sexual. Some legislation against lesbian relations can be adduced for the period, mainly involving the use of "instruments," in other words, dildoes."

What article is the quote from?

 

[Blackula]

THIS JUST IN:

Mass Effect 3 will have romanceable loli

 

[circ]

The japanese lost all their loli so now the west has to put more loli content into their games?

 

[Blackula]

Part of the relief program, yes.