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Brigade E5: New Jagged Union

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I was looking on directdrive and saw this game. Either I've never heard about it, or I ignored it because it didn't have TB combat. All the reviews I've found have been poor, and rated the game poorly. I obviously can't trust reviews by graphic whore pansy bitches, so is it worth buying?
 

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Well, it depends. If you ask me or baby arm - it's rather good, if not without flaws (graphics being the most glaring one, and there are a few bugs and glitches there and there... translation is also sub-par, last I heard).
However, if you really into tons of guns and VERY detailed representation of firefights - you really should try.
The game is really nonlinear, too - it has three separate branches. Quests are rather simplistic, though.
There is a sequel on it's way - 7.62. Basically, it's best of E5 with prettier graphics and better storyline/graphics. I heard of 'militia training', too... not sure if it's 100% true.

But if you really abhor RTwP (even the near-perfect, if you ask me, SPM of Brigade E5), and don't care about realistic firearms and firefights- I guess you can pass it safely.
As a last note, it's AI is one of the best I've seen in a game... you may not notice that right away, cause first you'll be meeting all sort of rabble like bandits, and they are not exactly known for being smart and coordinated.
Later, however (especially in urban warfare on higher difficulties) you'll see enemies doing really neat stuff like cover fire, flanking, camping, flushing you out with grenades, etc.
 

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I think rtwp can be okay, such as in Alter's UFO series. The only UFO I can say I enjoyed more than passingly is Aftershock (afterlight and aftermath are okay, but aftershock was pretty good). The rtwp is okay because the different builds actually played differently.

All the reviews were basically focused on how crapy the graphics and sound are in Brigade, so its good to know it actually had good gameplay. I'll ask the old lady if she'll let me buy it. And thanks for the heads-up. One question: is it an endless stream of easy combat, as in Alter's game or the EI games? IS there chardev and is it good?
 

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BE5 has very poor and annoying camera controls.
Most buldings can't be entered, and when you can enter them, the rooms are nearly empty.
The maps are somewhat bald, and many bugs are awaiting you.
The game looks like an alpha and is still in need of a few month of developement.
The RT combat sucks, and so BE5 is only to recommend for hardcore gamers.
If you're looking for a JA2 like game, you should avoid BE5.
 

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Well, thanks for raining on my parade. So, if I really liked the JA's I won't like this game? EVen if I like Alter's UFO's?
 

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E5 was originally a tech demo the publisher decided to release. You might want to wait until 7.62, it might get released as soon as this year.
In the character creation you pick one of 6 characters and answer some questions which changes the parameters. There isn't really a decent cover system and stealth seems broken(visibility doesn't seem to change). The characters have zero personality beyond the character descriptions.
Nonetheless I liked it for the combat system.
And I'm an old JA fan.
 

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Roqua said:
Well, thanks for raining on my parade. So, if I really liked the JA's I won't like this game? EVen if I like Alter's UFO's?

Only if you're preferring squad based RT combat, and if you're a REAL hardcore fan of that genre. BE5 has too much flaws to like it, and if you expect a JA2 like gameplay, you'll be disappointed. Try the playable demo.
 

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Camera controls are not poor... the camera is just absolutely unresticted and that sure takes some getting used to.
As for RT(wP) combat model of E5 - again, it takes some getting used to, but it allows ultimate realism. If you care about that thing, of course.

And for steals - it has GREAT steath (especially when it comes to enemy AI). However, at night, WHEN YOU MOVE, you become MUCH more noticeable. For instance, just go out at night and see that nights are not all THAT dark and it's rather easy to spot someone moving.
 

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I'll check out the demo, thanks for all the feedback everyone.
 

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Knowing your tastes, you should definitely get it just for the combat. It will stomp you into the ground if you're not on the ball. And I'm not talking about reflexes. Unfortunately the demo gives you just a weak glimmer of this so just bite the bullet and buy the game. If you can throw money away on FF Online, you can take a risk on this.

Don't buy it from D2D, though. It's $20 cheaper if you get it directly through Strategy First. EB Games should have it for $20 as well.
 

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You guys twisted my arm. It can't be worse than DS or NWN, and for $20 you can't go wrong.
 

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from a production standpoint the game is utter shit. they have really good ideas but the execution is so fucking haphazard.
 

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The game is pretty good. I've checked all the difficult choices (but the losing stamina when running I have on the easy choice). My biggest complaint is the millions of random encounters walking around, other than that its a solid game. The combat is like alter's ufo and jagged alliance had a baby. The way quests work is okay, the paper dolls and inventory add ons are great.

This game isn't a must-buy, but it keeps you going back for more even with the millions of random encounters that just waste time and the super slow (due to random encounters) travel.
 

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The travel time will speed up significantly and the random encounters will be less frequent once you get a vehicle. Try to save up $30000 as a couple different merchants have cars for sale. You'll also get a free car as part of a quest (for the General?), but you may already have one by that point.
 

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I'll wait to get it for free, unless there is a big advatage to having more than one? I only have one merc on my payroll, and I dodn't plan on getting more than 3, or at most 4. Unless sending out groups to different areas becomes important? I'm not far into the game. I'm going back to the general's town after completing one clockwise sweep of the map and turning in the wine quest and supply quest to the first town.
 

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