Innovative Games that had disastrous long-term impact on the industry

[HumanTotemPole]

Specs Ops: The Line.

Crap cover shooter that mainstreamed the concept of having the player reflect on the violence they commit whilst playing an action game. You don't get maudlin, manipulative AAA rubbish like The Last Of Us series without Spec Ops. Yager also innovated in the realm of bad dev excuses with we deliberately made Spec Ops a dull cover shooter to get the player to stop playing. Unfortunately for Yager Hotline Miami comes out several months later and interrogates player complicity in violence directly via gameplay mechanics.

 

[Falksi]

I've still to play a 3D platformer which is as fun as the 2D ones

Eh, I am just as fond of certain 3D platforming classics as I am 2D.
Perhaps turn your attention away from the Nintendo collectathon, which is indeed not particularly good.

If I had to pick three to represent the best of 3D platforming, it would be:

1. Tomb Raider 1 OG trilogy - sub-par combat drags it it down slightly but it really demonstrated the potential of 3D in its level design.
2. Spyro The Dragon - original game only, entire rest of the series is decline. It is and that's a fact.
3. Dying Light - The platforming is so much fun.

All the Marios, Sonics, Donkey Kongs, Earthworm Jims etc etc turned to shit with 3D. It is largely the new IPs that are classic in this genre.

I'd love to mention many other 3D platformers or 3D games with notable platforming emphasis, but I'll stop there.

That's a good shout Ash. I've not played Spyro in years, but I do remember that being one of the few from that era which I didn't hate.

 

[Modron]

Specs Ops: The Line.

Crap cover shooter that mainstreamed the concept of having the player reflect on the violence they commit whilst playing an action game. You don't get maudlin, manipulative AAA rubbish like The Last Of Us series without Spec Ops. Yager also innovated in the realm of bad dev excuses with we deliberately made Spec Ops a dull cover shooter to get the player to stop playing. Unfortunately for Yager Hotline Miami comes out several months later and interrogates player complicity in violence directly via gameplay mechanics.

Imagine playing Spec Ops the Line instead of Binary Domain in 2012.

 

[Morenatsu.]

imagine playing either of those games instead of an actual shooter

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Imagine playing a first-person or cover-based shooter instead of a game in a better genre.

 

[Morenatsu.]

A better genre? you mean, shoot 'em ups?